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Europeans Outlaw Net Hate Speech
Wired News ^ | Nov. 09, 2002 | By Julia Scheeres

Posted on 11/10/2003 7:55:07 AM PST by Dallas59

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:10:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Council of Europe has adopted a measure that would criminalize Internet hate speech, including hyperlinks to pages that contain offensive content.

Specifically, the amendment bans "any written material, any image or any other representation of ideas or theories, which advocates, promotes or incites hatred, discrimination or violence, against any individual or group of individuals, based on race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin, as well as religion if used as pretext for any of these factors."


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To: Dallas59
I wonder if these prohibitions will extend to desperate Europeans trying to "out" Islam and reverse their oncoming calamity?
21 posted on 11/10/2003 8:38:44 AM PST by Gritty
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To: Dallas59; *puff_list; Just another Joe; SheLion; Max McGarrity; Flurry; CSM; Great Dane; metesky; ..
Council of Europe has adopted a measure that would criminalize Internet hate speech, including hyperlinks to pages that contain offensive content.

The antis claim sites like FORCES, etc contain offensive material because FORCES pinpoints the offensive content of the antis sites.

It also obliquely refers to the Holocaust, outlawing sites that deny, minimize, approve or justify crimes against humanity, particularly those that occurred during World War II.

Wonderful, so now we are guilty of hate speech when we try to remind people that Hitler was very anti-smoker and anti-smoking and used that to discriminate against people based upon sex and ethnic origin. Or will the antis be guilty of the hate speech when they refer to us as being as bad as the nazis because SHS kills so many...........?

22 posted on 11/10/2003 8:43:53 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke-gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - SWAT'EM)
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It
A chill down my spine? Yes.

Here's something from one of my favorite authors ...

It is not very inspiring to fight for the freedom of the purveyors of pornography or their customers. But in the transition to statism, every infringement of human rights has begun with the suppression of a given right's least attractive practitioners. In this case, the disgusting nature of the offenders makes it a good test of one's loyalty to a principle. -- Ayn Rand

23 posted on 11/10/2003 8:46:50 AM PST by thinktwice
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To: Dallas59
bump
24 posted on 11/10/2003 9:00:50 AM PST by RippleFire
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To: Dallas59
How long before they declare the FR a hate site?

Will OConnor give deference to the EU law over the US Consititution. The notion that is said she would consider it is offensive. Occonnor and Ginsberg have similar concepts on this issue.

They can't win in the market place of ideas, so they now close the market.
25 posted on 11/10/2003 9:03:50 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: RiflemanSharpe
Will the french surrender monkeys bank boycotfrance web sites as a guise for hate speech?

There is no first amendment in the EU. There is not second amendment in the EU. Heck, there is no THIRD amendment in the EU. and so on.
26 posted on 11/10/2003 9:05:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: RiflemanSharpe
"I hate the french surrender monkeys"

Get it right. It's "cheese-eating surrender monkeys". And don't forget it. ;)

For a very amusing read, go to a google search engine and type "French military victories", then hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button. Follow the link from there.

Qwinn
27 posted on 11/10/2003 9:09:15 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: Dallas59
When will the Euro tools realize that you can't regulate thought by regulating speech?
28 posted on 11/10/2003 9:10:45 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: AppyPappy

It's the same as not being able to have the Ten Commandments in the courthouse in Alabama, but they can put the Koran on display during Ramadan in the police station in NYC. Figure that one out.
29 posted on 11/10/2003 9:12:52 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Dallas59
Excellent! Now, if they can pass a law against "bad vibes" and being annoyed, my day would go much better.

Oh, and pass a law against traffic jams, too. And babies crying. And puppies needing to be house broken.

My daughter is sick today. They need to outlaw the flu, as well.
30 posted on 11/10/2003 9:15:14 AM PST by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs: 9-0 baby)
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To: Bikers4Bush
They are and they do. Quite effectivly. There is no fox or conservative media as we know it in the EU zone. The cross EU news is only Euronews TV, CNNeurope, and BBC. All with more leftism that makes CNN USA look anti-clinton. Positive stories for the USA are verboten unless it is a positive story about an american's funeral or homosexuals in the USA.

They still teach history of 1776 as if the USA is just a breakaway thirteen disperate colonies. They do not, contrary to popular myth, know who the USA works. Also contrary to popular myth, not all students in european k -high school are rocket scientists.

In fact in some countries, being on the internet is still expensive because your LANDLINE is paid by the MINUTE like a cell phone. It keeps the internet out of practical reach of many. It is also hard to buy a computer for communicating ideas when you only make 300-400 euro's a MONTH. (before expenses)

European nations will forever surpress free speech because it works.
31 posted on 11/10/2003 9:35:20 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: Alas Babylon!
You are exactly right. I can't imagine that the thought police in Europe are trying to shut any speech it doesn't like in the face of the US Constitution. I guess I'm kind of like you. We are the unwashed so what do we know? Quite frankly I would like to see them try! Especially here!
32 posted on 11/10/2003 9:36:35 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Sunshine Sister
With all the hate groups that abound in the EU for one reason or another. (they make US groups look like romper room) It seems like this is directed at anti-EU and anti-Euro currency speech.

Hmmmm, what are they hiding? can you say another eurostat scandal? (there have be two so far. It would be as if Greenspan was caught with three sets of financial books and a hotline to his brokers in NY.)
33 posted on 11/10/2003 9:44:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: Dallas59
Hmmm. So if you called for a boycott against the French for example, this would be illegal. If you had a website that linked to FR this would be illegal. If you published a blog that said "The Israelis should crack down on the Palestinians" this would be illegal. If you had a website that supported your country going to war against another country...
34 posted on 11/10/2003 9:45:20 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: AppyPappy
"Will they go after Muslim anti-semite sites? Nope"

The Euro-weenies think that they can avoid terrorism by appeasing the elements of radical Islam. Appeasement didn't work with Hitler, and it won't work with the Muslim Islamo-facists either!

35 posted on 11/10/2003 10:00:19 AM PST by The Scorpion King
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To: Gabz
Thank God for the Bill O'Rights, eh?
Come and get me Euro-swine!
36 posted on 11/10/2003 10:26:14 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Dallas59
including hyperlinks to pages that contain offensive content.

Does that mean they will outlaw A.S.H.

37 posted on 11/10/2003 11:57:32 AM PST by Great Dane (You can smoke just about everywhere in Denmark.)
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To: Dallas59
Well I hate the EU Nazis with a passion!
I can't wait for the Muslims to completely take over Europe. I never though I'd say it, but a Muslim take over might be an improvement for Europe.
38 posted on 11/10/2003 12:03:51 PM PST by vladog
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To: Dallas59
This is the break point... the reason the 1st Amendment comes first.

Once the bad guys succeed in criminalizing dissent, the chance to work for freedom within the system is over.
39 posted on 11/10/2003 12:14:57 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Dallas59
Related power grab:

Plan for UN to run internet 'will be shelved' (but now on international agenda)

40 posted on 11/10/2003 4:03:14 PM PST by weegee
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