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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10
Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/07/2003 7:54:47 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003)
(Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)

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Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!

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Latest threads On Terri's Case

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Judge Rejects Bush Effort in Schiavo Case

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: Orlando
You might be right. I don't have a strong opinion about Coast to Coast one way or the other. I used to listen to it a lot. They have a lot of good information, but also a lot of real whacko stuff, as well as everything between the two extremes. I only posted that for the purpose of suggesting a possible reason that Hammersfahr might be reluctant to do it.
341 posted on 11/08/2003 1:46:53 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
I'll be a vigiling tonight over in Pinellas Park Hospice Woodside.
342 posted on 11/08/2003 1:49:19 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: sweetliberty; All
I would like to say, when I was about 2, I ate a full bottle of adult aspirins, went into convulsions, and later a coma. I was given last rites. My uncle said, although it was against hospital rules, he and other relatives were allowed in my room to say "good bye" to me. I have only a couple of memories from my hospital stay:

1. There was a light in the hospital hallway. My door was open. But the light from the hallway DID NOT come into the room; it DID NOT illuminate ANYTHING in my room, it was pitch black. This memory came to me in my dreams, almost every night, until I was about 30, when I began to think about my "dream." I asked my uncle if he knew whether or not I died, even for a few minutes. He said no, he doesn't recall that occurring, but it's possible. I told him about my memory with the bright light in the hallway/dark hospital room. To me, this was real, not just something I made up in a dream. It may have occurred while I was in a coma, therefore, I was still able to sense/see light/dark. My mother died when I was 12, so I could never ask her about this.

2. I thought there was a net over my hospital crib, because I remember feeling something like that. My uncle said there was no net, but there was an oxygen tent I was in. I assume I was still in a coma when the oxygen tent was over me. I assume when I came out of a coma four days later and was "aware" of things, it wouldn't have been necessary to continue to be in need of an oxygen tent. (But that's just my opinion.)

And so, even though I was written off by the priests and the doctors, my parents didn't have them remove the feeding tubes that must have been connected to my body.

343 posted on 11/08/2003 1:52:30 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: KosmicKitty
Thank you for this post. This is very important that people see this.
344 posted on 11/08/2003 1:53:38 PM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Orlando
It needs a lie detector---and he won't take that test.
What's one little perjury to a blind biased judge?
345 posted on 11/08/2003 1:54:55 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: sweetliberty
I agree some nights are far-out-there, I agree...

Speaking of WHACKO, this event in Clearwater with MS
and Felo$ is whacko.

There is alot of power when you have 10 million ++
people praying and sending the light to Terri.

It's important to keep the night shift informed,
and involved with this horror story in Clearwater....

It effects us all....day and night....

The problem is the day shift is not well informed, we need
to work on that more.....
346 posted on 11/08/2003 1:57:36 PM PST by Orlando (* Dec. 3rd is Theresa M. SCHINDLER Birthday * Don't call her Schiavo anymore,please.)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
"This clearly showed a void in Terri's skull where her cerebral cortex should have been."

Could be the EXPERIMENTAL ELECTRO-BRAIN SURGERY complete with IMPLATED CORTEX ELECTRODE ....according to MS on Larry King caused this.....?

347 posted on 11/08/2003 1:59:06 PM PST by spokeshave (Cancel the San Jose Merc and the one way truck to Nevada)
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To: sweetliberty
I agree with you about everything except this one thing. Michael and Felos have been here, and will be again. I know with 99% certainity. I can't tell you how just now, I will sometime, but trust me... they know what is going on here, they hope for us to stop, they are disruptive. My only point is they are slick, so those freeples who don't get to follow every nook and cranny of Terri threads , I fear they make easier targets than those of us who do. I see no harm in sending out a FR suspected troll warning and letting them decide for themselves wheter a person can be trusted.

This is a war, freerepublic.com is at the forefront, these people go to sites and try to disrupt the work being done, they know where to go, and they have been watching for a while, they are not dumb so they know what freeps want to hear and how to play us, they already have disrupted things here, and they will do it more.. we need to keep reminding ourselves of that.

348 posted on 11/08/2003 1:59:25 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: nicmarlo
Keep in mind, too, nic, that even at the time of Terri's injury, withholding nourishment and hydration was NOT standard procedure. It just wasn't done and was NOT looked at being on par with being on a ventilator or other artificial means of life supposrt. When looked at in that light, one could clearly surmise that even IF Terri had said she wouldn't want to be kept alive "like that" she couldn't have meant by a feeding tube, because that was still illegal.
349 posted on 11/08/2003 2:00:14 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Krodg
I'm weary from feeding trolls. We give them substance and they spew forth garbage..
350 posted on 11/08/2003 2:00:17 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Krodg
BING>...we have a winner....

Maxfield testified, adding that hyperbaric oxygen therapy, similar to Hammesfahr's recommendation, could lead to improvement

There are several state of the art hypergaric centers in Florida ,......dealing with divers accidents from Gulf oil rigs,,,.

GET HER IN A PRESSURIZED O2 ATMOSPHERE ASAP....if will work wondes.

351 posted on 11/08/2003 2:03:12 PM PST by spokeshave (Cancel the San Jose Merc and the one way truck to Nevada)
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To: All
Apologies if this has been posted before. Found in a google search for "cerebral cortex ~ Terri Schiavo" ..

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/7098223.htm
352 posted on 11/08/2003 2:03:30 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: sweetliberty
And I honestly do not think that anybody would ever say they'd rather starve to death than be kept alive by having food given to them (except for MS, Felos and other "right-to-deathers").
353 posted on 11/08/2003 2:03:43 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Orlando
This definitely should be further investigated.

There are many things which are totally wrong here. Such as Dr. Wolfson who not only has a conflict of interest but also just gives me the creeps. Gov. Bush should be made aware of these problems. Florida voters would have the best impact on convincing him that Terri and her family are not getting a fair deal.

354 posted on 11/08/2003 2:05:42 PM PST by Dante3
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To: No More Gore Anymore
"they are not dumb so they know what freeps want to hear and how to play us"

While they may not be dumb, their arrogance DOES make them blind, and we are praying for guidance from the One who sees everything and who turns the ways of the wicked against them. I don't doubt that Felos has checked the site out. We messed up his evil design, or at least had a big part in it, but he doesn't intimidate me, nor do the trolls. It is just a matter of keeping everything in perspective.

"By their fruits ye shall know them." (Matt. 7:20)

355 posted on 11/08/2003 2:08:23 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
The fact that nutrition/hydration was not a consideration at the time of Terri's injury is CRUCIAL, sweetliberty. It seems that the Merchants of Death had to spend some time in getting the current laws in place before condemning Terri to death.

Another fine point .. it seems Judge Greer gave the okay for George Felos to act as Terri's attorney, to be paid for by her money .. in essence, she's paying him to kill her. Now that MS has to defend himself as acting in Terri's best interest, and George Felos is still on the scene, is he now Michael's attorney? Can he represent both?

356 posted on 11/08/2003 2:12:04 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: T'wit; sweetliberty
"Several days ago, someone posted the reflections by a Jewish doctor about Terri's case, and how he applied a body of Jewish law called the Halacha to such questions."

Is this it?

http://www.aish.com/societyWork/sciencenature/Should_Terri_Schiavo_Live_or_Die$.asp
357 posted on 11/08/2003 2:13:32 PM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: Wampus SC
" I wanted to tell him they were just a wandering band of Dem voters on their way back from the Kentucky elections."

ROTFL!

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"I voted."

358 posted on 11/08/2003 2:16:42 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Schiavo's wishes recalled in records

In court, family members on both sides recounted what Terri said she wanted.
By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, Times Staff Writer
Published November 8, 2003

...Mrs. Schiavo's former friend, Diane Meyer, recalled watching a movie about Quinlan in the summer of 1982 after they graduated high school.

"I remember one of the things she said is, "How did they know she would want this? How did they know she wouldn't want to go on?"' Meyer testified.

Circuit Judge George Greer later ruled that Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed.

The judge said he was persuaded by testimony by Michael Schiavo. He said that testimony, combined with statements of other family members, was "clear and convincing evidence."

He discounted things Mrs. Schiavo might have said as a child about Quinlan.

359 posted on 11/08/2003 2:19:20 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Dante3
I agree.

We need to email our FEW friends in the MEDIA and RADIO
to investigate this for us, it's breaking news in this case
in the eyes of many..




360 posted on 11/08/2003 2:20:24 PM PST by Orlando (* Dec. 3rd is Theresa M. SCHINDLER Birthday * Don't call her Schiavo anymore,please.)
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