Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10

Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

TERRI'S FIGHT (Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003) (Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)

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Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!

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Latest threads On Terri's Case

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Terri Schiavo Case: Creditable Witnesses & the 1st Guardian

Judge Rejects Bush Effort in Schiavo Case

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[Annie03]

I thought that many lawsuits for auto accidents was odd as well. There are people who have a scam where they cause accidents in order to sue.....3 such occurences in an entire lifetime stretch the limits of reason.

[T'wit]

> Think of the book and movie deals. Felos is partially responsible for continually egging Michael on in this quest for fame and power (and money).

I raised the point earlier that Michael, as sole heir, stands to make a mint with publishing rights to Terri's life. But, it didn't seem pertinent here -- too many uncertainties. He can't really count on it yet.

Felos unquestionably egged him on and almost certainly made up the "Terri didn't want to live this way" story. He probably just told Michael to stick to that story through thick and thin because it cannot be disproven. And got a skanky judge to accept the tale. ... The story may be rolling on due to its own momentum at this point. How could MS back out?

Also possible that Felos suggested using attorney billing to bleed Terri's trust fund, kick back some to Michael. Remember, a big chunk of the money disappeared and the records were sealed. George is very diligent about getting records sealed.

[Ohioan from Florida]

You have my vote for post of the day, and my prayers even more so. Thank you for your wisdom-filled insights on the charade of "death with dignity".

[lonevoice]

It sure wouldn't surprise me. I can understand the dynamics of women with low self-esteem being attracted to a Michael Schiavo, like maybe Terri was at first. But, there's something much more sinister about Jodi than that. Knowing she moved into the house with him that was bought with MS's "loss of consortium" money, having his illegitimate children, helping MS to "guard" Terri's family while Terri was dying of starvation...this woman has to be an unholy monster.

[T'wit]

> I think he is driven by money.......where it is, I don't know.

He was certainly in it for money, for years. It gets harder to explain as the money runs out.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Yes, and she has the audacity to want to be married in a Catholic church!

[sfRummygirl]

That's even weirder.

[Wampus SC]

"What is it about Schiavo that makes Judges Greer, Demers, and Baird seem to be in his corner?"

It's a question that gnaws. Maybe the same boss, spiritually speaking? Maybe they have something on each other?

And why are so many mentioned here connected to that hospice, in addition to being assoiciated with the "right-to-die" movement? Those dots have been connected here, so the tinfoil hat isn't required to think along these lines. The emerging picture is chilling.

My $0.02 worth of thinking out loud.

[Republic]

You hit it-he has to HATE Terri. Someone (sweetliberty?) posted photos of Terri shortly after her injury, and one of her more recently. I turned to my husband and said "that is what HE (MS) has done to her". Only God knows how well she might be doing now if Hubby Dearest had not denied therapy. It is obvious she has gone downhill because of his "guardianship".

Terri needs some sunshine. And how I would love to wheel her out to embrace its warmth! ( oh--wouldn't we all! ) I look forward to hearing about thTo place a kitten on her tummy and then gently wrap her fragile arms around it....to put the little warm and soft life against her cheek and to wheel her out into the sunshine.

Terri has been abused and imprisoned by a man full of wrath and evil.

We need to pray for MS while we are praying for Terri. For surely he is in the grips of satan - no one could possibly deny someone with as meager an existence as Terri, the smallest of joys. Yet he has managed, year after year. He is a vampire-sucking the life out of Terri while he panders to those unable or unwilling to take a hard look at the mirror.

[sfRummygirl]

Yes, I think you're right. I think he is worried that MS may have attacked other women, prostitutes or something.
I'm not sure that would be MS type of MO, but then again I am not a criminal detective. Don't know much about that.

[sfRummygirl]

OH! It's your neck. Well, I'm glad you are ok. be careful, get some rest....

[Krodg]

Then it is said that the senior Schiavo didn't want Michael to do this to Theresa. So Bill Schiavo was alive during part of this situation, but later was starved to death by order of Michael Schiavo. Am I getting this right?

I read an older article where Terri's dad pleaded with Bill Schiavo to try to convince Michael not to do this. I'll try to find it again.

[4Godsoloved..Hegave]

I found it! Here's that excerpt: Scott Schiavo disputes the Schindlers' claims that Terri and Michael were having problems. But, he said, the couple had been arguing all day on Feb. 25, 1990. Terri collapsed that night. It's here in this Philadelphia Inquirer article entitled, "Many recall Schiavo as fight plays out."

Way to go! I knew I read it and yes that is the article!

[Annie03]

You are correct. I read somewhere here (sorry-not organized with a link) that the priest who ministers to Terri does think an exorcism would be in order for MS. I need to soften my heart enough to pray for him.

[Wampus SC]

Prayers for you, Orlando. You OK there?

[sfRummygirl]

lone voice, are you the hinterlands lone voice? I'm getting confused....
I'm trying to figure out who was following the promisary note. Was that you?

[T'wit]

This is absolutely meant to be a landmark case for the right-to-kill movement, and Felos thinks it's his personal plum. To euthanize Terri, they have to broaden the legal definitions of who can be killed more or less at will. If they succeed, all disabled people are at risk of extermination, along with senior citizens. Of course Felos is pushing it.

[Ohioan from Florida]

If it hadn't been for your response I would've given up searching. Actually, I had, and then read your post, which gave me new hope to go looking again. Sometimes all we need is someone willing to affirm that our ideas make sense. Wish I could give that to Terri right now...but maybe as long as her family knows, it helps them keep going on.

[T'wit]

> Maybe that things have gone too far?

Excellent point! It certainly has momentum of its own.

Still, that facet doesn't seem to explain the extraordinary half-million-dollar snuff effort by a man who not so long ago worked at McDonald's and was too poor to rent an apartment.

[sweetliberty]

I think you're probably talking about this post.