Dean 'Appalled' That Florida Lawmakers Saved Schiavo

CNSNEWS.com ^ | 11/07/03 | Jeff Johnson

[sweetliberty]

Dean blasts governor over Schiavo case

[Lazamataz]

Democrats are the party of death.

[The Other Harry]

BTW, have you realized yet that Terri is not on a respirator?

I know more about Terri than I want to know. The two of you know less about this subject than you want to know.

[Dante3]

Dean is a walking nightmare. Can anyone imagine the likes of him as a president?

[Warren_Piece]

Answer the question.

[The Other Harry]

I have answered as much as I am going to. This isn't a depsoition, and you don't know what you are talking about.

[grania]

Or phrased another way, Why is it that they only want you to die and never them?

Because Dr. Dean is not just content to tell people how to think and how to live; now he wants to determine who should live and who should die.

[The Other Harry]

now he wants to determine who should live and who should die.

No, the government should. Not nature.

[Mark17]

Dean 'Appalled' That Florida Lawmakers Saved Schiavo

Typical Demon Rat thinking.

[sweetliberty]

"This is the guy who wants to reach out to Southern voters? Just how, exactly, does he plan to do that?"

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[sweetliberty]

"We need to really ENCOURAGE him to keep it up."

Indeed we do. The intensity of emotions in those months leading up to election time would be unbearable were it not for comic relief, and Howard Dean is a one man traveling comedy show.

[sweetliberty]

" Has Dr. Dean no shame? We should expect more from a man aspiring to hold the nation's highest office in the future."

"We should expect ^NOmore from a man democRAT aspiring to hold the nation's highest office in the future."

[Graymatter]

Somehow I expected my old age to be more boring than this. Only three years ago I was positively allergic to every word that issued from the mouth of Joe Lieberman. The man was riding the sidecar of a horse of the Apocalypse.
Today he's a reasonable human being and as such, the nearest Democratic approach to presidential timber. More significantly, if he were my next-door neighbor, I think I could actually get along with him.
It's getting so a person can hardly take a nap anymore.

[Ladysmith]

A woman I used to work with just suffered a severe stroke and was technically dead for over 30 minutes. The EMT's were able to bring back a heartbeat and all but she was only "surviving" by all the life support machines. But she was gone. Her brain is gone. In a case like that, yes, let that person go.

The only thing hooked up to Terri is the feeding tube. She is being supplied food and hydration. She breathes on her own. Obviously, her brain is letting the rest of her vital organs function properly or she would need help from other life supporting machines. I don't care what the circumstances of any situation is, no one should be denying anyone food and water. If that's all it takes to keep one alive, then do so and let God decide when to bring her home.

There needs to be clarity in living wills, which, BTW, Terri doesn't have. The culture of death is trying to alllow starvation as an option. In my opinion, it should not be an option. There should be a clear law that even with living wills, you cannot choose to be allowed to starve to death. It is absolutely too barbaric to even consider.

[agrace]

I do not equate taking someone off artificial life-support with abortion. One life is viable, the other is not.

Terri Schiavo is on a feeding tube. There are thousands and thousands of people in the US who are on feeding tubes for various reasons. I'm sure quite a number of them would love to discuss viability with you.

[The Other Harry]

Terri Schiavo is on a feeding tube. There are thousands and thousands of people in the US who are on feeding tubes for various reasons. I'm sure quite a number of them would love to discuss viability with you.

Terri is dead in all but name only. The room she occupies should go to someone else.

[agrace]

How do you know that?

[MarMema]

Cry me a river, Dean, and then jump in it.

[MarMema]

Bumping your excellent post.

[The Other Harry]

How do you know that?

Fair point. I have no personal knowledge about her condition. I am relying on news accounts that she has been in "vegitative state" since about 1991. If those accounts are true -- which I think a judge could verify -- it would seem like it's time to let nature take its course.

But, more than anything, I do not think in matters like this that there can be any "policy level" decision. It is very difficult and very individual.

I know I would not want to be kept alive by artificial means for more than a decade. Nor would I want to do that to someone else. I do not consider that to be humane.

Like Terri, I have not put my wishes down on paper. I should. But, also again, I do not see it as the same as abortion. In one case, the patient is essentially already dead. Her room, her tube, her nurses and physicians should go to someone else. Especially since that is what her next-of-kin has requested. I don't see any other way to decide it.

Let me ask you this:

If you were an emergency dispatcher and you had one ambulace available to dispatch but you got two calls at the same time, one for someone who was probably dead and one for someone who might still be alive, to which call would you dispatch the ambulance?

They have to make these decisions every day. Nobody ever said it was easy.