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FOX NEWS; CBS WANTS REAGAN MOVIE GONE
fox news | 11-2-03 | Bootstick

Posted on 11/01/2003 10:38:26 PM PST by BOOTSTICK

Fox news reports at 1:30 am est, that CBS would like to sell the upcomming Reagan movie to Showtime, for a sum of $9 million , also CBS head says, lawyers to go over movie for accuracy.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: barbrastreisand; boycott; cbs; cbsschadenfreude; ccrm; movie; presstitutes; reagan; schadenfreude; seebs; thereagans
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To: ladyinred
I won't care if Showtime decides to air it. The exposure would be minimal compared to CBS and Showtime failed to generate a buzz when it showed Oliver Stone's "The Day Reagan Was Shot" last year (with Richard Crenna starring as Reagan).

Hard to believe, but Reagan was a sympathetic figure in Stone's biopic with Al Haig (overplayed by Richard Dreyfuss)being trashed as the out-of-control power-mad whacko ready to take out the Russkies when they least expected it. I think Stone also overdramatized Nancy a bit but then how would most strong-willed women react when their husband has been shot and is in surgery?

PBS, by the way, aired an American Experience biography on Ronald Reagan a couple of years ago which I thought was fair and balanced considering the source. They didn't give Reagan any credit for ending the Cold War and piled on the usual bilge about AIDS, the homeless, the deficits and Iran-Contra but it didn't come across as a mean-spirited hatchet job and did show quite a bit of Reagan's positive character and the inspiration he gave to others.

With those in mind, I'd think both would pass on another major release about Ronald Reagan.

141 posted on 11/02/2003 9:31:44 AM PST by Tall_Texan ("Is Rush a Hypocrite?" http://righteverytime2.blogspot.com)
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To: Fred Mertz
Did you hear the clips that Drudge played when he was subbing for Rush?

It sounded like a campy soap opera, and made Reagan sound like a total fool, and Nancy like a cross between a drunken Judy Garland, and Joan Crawford.

It was a travesty, and I hope not one minute of it gets shown anywhere.

142 posted on 11/02/2003 9:43:57 AM PST by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Lancey Howard
Actually, if it weren't for Drudge, the best that could be done is to complain after the thing had aired.
143 posted on 11/02/2003 9:50:19 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
...every fact (though not every line of dialogue) is supported by at least two sources.

That's a very bizarre distinction....one that ultimately did them in. And now there is no doubt where to go to See BS.

144 posted on 11/02/2003 9:53:53 AM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Before everybody starts shrieking at Showtime about a movie they haven't seen yet,

Well, this is the problem with a TV movie. If you watch it, go get a fair portrayal of what it is about, this contributes to the ratings and justifies the project.

145 posted on 11/02/2003 10:00:30 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: BOOTSTICK
*does happy dance for a partial FReeper victory!!*
146 posted on 11/02/2003 10:09:11 AM PST by Blue Scourge (A bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on earth - T. Jefferson)
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To: BOOTSTICK
See. CBS is responsive to its customers. What a conscientious company.
147 posted on 11/02/2003 10:10:27 AM PST by beavus
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To: BOOTSTICK
Looks like they're feeling the heat, and have concluded that their risk of a defamation lawsuit is VERY high. Good.
148 posted on 11/02/2003 10:19:52 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: woodyinscc
Great idea! Thanks for the heads up!!!
149 posted on 11/02/2003 10:51:10 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Squantos
i have a sat dish also and can't get the alphabet's without paying for them.i dont think so..... i havnt watched the usual suspects in many years,instead i hang out on the CTV or discovery channels. and of course i cant miss my all time fave cartoon sponge bob squarepants!
150 posted on 11/02/2003 11:08:50 AM PST by suzyq5558 (and no i dont know the web addy to bab's site,i read it here on FR first!!!!!)
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To: BOOTSTICK
also CBS head says, lawyers to go over movie for accuracy

That ought to cut it from miniseries status to a 30 sec. infomercial.

151 posted on 11/02/2003 11:13:27 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Sorry if this makes anyone sick (Barf Alert), but I got this from barbra's fan site.



TRUTH ALERT: October 30, 2003

What's all this fuss about Barbra Streisand's involvement in the upcoming CBS biopic about Ronald and Nancy Reagan? The Republican spin machine would like you to believe that Ms. Streisand, a well-known liberal activist, was intimately connected to the making of this film. The Drudge Report even said that she spent weeks on the set!

The truth? Ms. Streisand was on the set of The Reagans for a total of only 4 hours of one day. Any one of hundreds of people involved in its making could have told Mr. Drudge this truth, if he had only bothered to ask.

Furthermore, Ms. Streisand has never even read the script! She has also never seen the film, which stars her husband James Brolin. Mr. Brolin, as an actor in the movie, himself was not responsible for what is depicted in it - that was left up to the screenwriter, producers and director involved in the movie's production. Saying that Mr. Brolin's marriage to Ms. Streisand would have affected his performance is as ludicrous as the complaints about the way President and Nancy Reagan are depicted in the film.

What is going on instead is that the Republicans, who deify President Reagan, cannot stand that some of the more unpleasant truths about his character and presidency might be depicted in the movie, along with his positive actions. In fact, the film, we're told, presents a balanced portrait of a complicated man who said, when confronted with the AIDS crisis, "Maybe the lord brought down this plague because illicit sex is against the ten commandments." This has been changed in the film to, "Those who live in sin shall die by sin," but clearly the sentiment behind that statement is the same. No less a source than the World Health Organization recently said that Reagan was slow in responding to AIDS as a public health crisis, and could have even stopped the epidemic if he had taken it more seriously. Public records and multiple sources show that everything in the film, including his controversial statement about AIDS, is based on irrefutable facts.

Reagan is glorified by conservatives because what other Republican leader of recent history are they going to point towards? Richard Nixon? George H.W. Bush? Newt Gingrich? Are these men worthy of exalt? Conservatives love to boast of the 16 million jobs Reagan's economic policies generated. What they are more reluctant to mention, however, is that by cutting taxes and raising military spending, Reagan also created record budget deficits, increased inequality and tripled the national debt. Judged on their own terms, Reagan proponents would have to admit that Bill Clinton, who generated 23 million new jobs in the same amount of time in office and also turned a major deficit into the largest surplus ever, was a more successful president.

Speaking of Clinton, can you imagine what a biopic of Clinton would include? Of course, Clinton fans understand and accept the truth about the former president. They know that although he was a great president in many ways, overseeing economic prosperity and making great strides in creating a more peaceful world, he was also flawed. They don't try to prevent depictions of the truth from getting out there. Similarly, it is accepted by Democrats that portrayals of the Kennedy Family often include scandals. We must all understand that every human being embodies the good and the bad. There is no one out there who is perfect, not even our most prominent leaders ... and we must be honest in the way we portray them.

But this is what the Right Wing does when they are faced with a truth that is not 100% positive for their side - they spread vicious lies and attacks and scream and yell until they get their way. Instead of boycotting and trying to have the movie changed, why don't they all just wait to see the film when it airs like the rest of us.

Hopefully, the public will tune in to CBS on November 16th, and 18th to see the truth behind all this nonsense, and to watch what is sure to be a very interesting and well-made movie.



(Hey! Drudge got a mention!)

Ms. Streisand has never even read the script! She has also never seen the film...
Gee! Even Barbra is trying to disassociate herself from the film. LOL!
152 posted on 11/02/2003 11:13:57 AM PST by TaxRelief (Welcome to the only website dedicated to the preservation of a Freerepublic.)
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To: TaxRelief
Gonna have to order me some B.S. toilet paper
153 posted on 11/02/2003 11:32:51 AM PST by listenhillary
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
So .. they showed a movie which was positive to the administration (or was mainly truthful for a change) .. what on earth does that have to do with them showing the Reagan movie ..?? I fail to see any connection.

And .. since excerpts of the SCRIPT from the movie have already been released .. people can be informed what the controversy is all about .. without having to see the movie.
154 posted on 11/02/2003 11:35:23 AM PST by CyberAnt
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To: thinktwice
CBS is airing a 75th anniversary show this evening. I think I'll watch -- NOT!
155 posted on 11/02/2003 11:38:15 AM PST by CedarDave (The enviro's are are just as angry about the CA fires as we are -- a lot of pine beetles were lost)
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To: longtermmemmory
Hallmark is still going to distribute this in europe.

What idiots.

This morning I was thinking about Reagan and his luminary life, like the way stained glass comes to life with the light shining through it.

This hit piece by CBS shines no light whatsoever. It will be dull in more ways than one... both boring and totally lackluster.

What an opportunity to shine a laser beam on CBS and Hallmark for their lack of integrity.

156 posted on 11/02/2003 11:43:30 AM PST by b9
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To: onyx
Nah .. just send them a message which says: THIS IS WHY I WON'T EVER TAKE YOUR SERVICE AGAIN - and I will boycott all the sponsors who particpate in this hatchet job on the Reagans.
157 posted on 11/02/2003 11:44:05 AM PST by CyberAnt
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To: BOOTSTICK
My money hears HBO calling...
158 posted on 11/02/2003 11:49:24 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
My money hears HBO calling...

Fat chance. HBO is owned by Time-Warner, which is a major competitor to the Viacom conglomerate that owns CBS. I think the miniseries will end up on Showtime, because the very major threat of a large-scale boycott of the show sponsors could hit Hallmark and General Motors' bottom line quite hard.

159 posted on 11/02/2003 11:53:16 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Carl Anthony, a producer of the film who once wrote speeches for Nancy. “It’s odd to me when people get all worked up, because it’s called a dramatization. They forget what that means.”

Poor dopey Carl. A dramatization of a story isn't synonymous with fictionalization.
160 posted on 11/02/2003 11:54:31 AM PST by aruanan
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