[Dales]

Two hints:

1) This would also be a very poor thread to decide to engage in flamewarring or flamebaiting.

2) If you think you can guess my views from which of these articles I am posting, you are the amazing Kreshkin. Log off and go try to make your fortune in Hollywood or with a band of travelling gypsies.

[Physicist]

So much wisdom and so simple!

"Things should be made as simple as possible...but no simpler." --Albert Einstein

[HankReardon]

Without actual ongoing living evolutionary examples between species evolution could be taughty in a 19th and 20th century history class, why not? Trust people to see the flaws, oh yeah, they should begin pointing out the flaws instead of deliberately omitting them, would be more Truthful. But if they are going to study one theory which other theories are worthy of study also?

[trebb]

The problem is that biblical creationism is not science

sci·ence n.

- The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
- Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.
- Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.
- Methodological activity, discipline, or study: I've got packing a suitcase down to a science.
An activity that appears to require study and method: the science of purchasing.
- Knowledge, especially that gained through experience. Science Christian Science.

Seems to me that an educated person would have to agree that it is science...

[MissAmericanPie]

I don't think we can be mute on the subject. However so far there is no scientific explination for how we all got here. I certainly think it should be taught as to how species evolve to adapt to their climate, what the species looked like, how it functioned. I don't think it should be taught as being the answer as to where life came from when they just don't honestly know.

It's better for one to say they don't know rather than be wrong. We should use the documentation we have at hand, the provable points of evolustion, and especially the Bible. No use casting aside the oldest writings on the planet because of the religious label while ignoring how accurate it is in regards to which species came first, fish, birds, mammals, man.

Also the bible relates the difference between that world and this one, it never rained then, the earth was watered by a mist that rose from the ground, the atmosphere did not support the viewing of a rainbow, and something about the conditions allowed human life to continue from six to nine hundred years. Given what data is available to us the possibility of God should be made available to all students, it's certainly more important data than which came first, the chicken or the egg. The bible says the chicken came first with the egg inside it. Evolution takes the opposite stance, both should be available for study and experimentation.

[Sloth]

While this claim may be true, it is a religious or philosophical belief because it invokes causes not investigable by science.

Correct. ID is a (IMO) correct recognition of design in the universe, but it is a philosophical idea, not a testable hypothesis. It doesn't belong in a science class. Creationism certainly doesn't.

On the other hand, neither does alleged historical evolution.

[Salvation]

Are they teaching "creationism" also?

[Naspino]

They just need to fess up and be honest about what they know and what they believe. I can not tell you how many times in science books I saw stuff like:

"64,047,485 years ago.."

To me that reads like "..many say the tax cut will kill children.."

[biblewonk]

It should be taught for what it is, one of many religious views on the origins of man.

[Capitalism2003]

Yes, evolution should be taught.

And can I ask the creationists something? Why did God wait 14.9999999999999999999999999998723542 billion years to create Jesus on planet earth?

We know for a FACT that the Universe is this old...The earth is approximately 1/3 as old as the Universe...meaning it was not created within the first 7 days of everything.

[HankReardon]

A parting thought. America does have enemies, very subtle communist and socialist enemies, many from within. It is known that a unprincipled, immoral, amoral, Godless, heathenistic populace will not not put up as much of a fight against change that will eventually end America has mankind's best last chance for Freedom as people with morals, beliefs and principles. The indoctrination of our impressionable children in the belief of evolution is one way to achieve such a population.

[ET(end tyranny)]

I think both 'creationism' and 'evolution' could be addressed in science class. Both sides should be presented and both should be presented as theories. Just to be fair, so that neither is espoused as fact. Far as I know 'evolution' is still a theory. jmo

[bert]

Of course science should be taught in schools.