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Unions: Good or Bad?
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Posted on 10/30/2003 10:50:34 AM PST by proud_member_of_ VRWC

It would be difficult to argue that labor unions haven't done a lot of good for American workers. But have they got a little too much power now? They may be interfering with companies' abilities to compete -- and perhaps investors should consider unions when evaluating companies.

By Selena Maranjian (TMF Selena) October 30, 2003 I've long supported unions. I've even belonged to two -- when I was a high school teacher and when I was a university administrative worker. (For the record, the Harvard Union of Clerical and Technical Workers had some great songs.) But in recent years, I've come to doubt my pro-union convictions. Permit me to share some of my thoughts and then to solicit your thoughts. I suspect that many who read my words are much more informed about and experienced with unions than I am.

Why unions are good In much of industrial America, workers toiled under very unsafe conditions, earning extremely low pay and enjoying little to no legal protection. Unions were successful in bringing about many improvements for such workers, such as more reasonable working hours. They have generally served workers well by helping them avoid being exploited by employers. Even in these days, unions have a strong impact. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union members in 1999 had median weekly earnings of $672 (that's $34,944 per year) while non-union workers had median weekly earnings of only $516 ($26,832) (source).

Why unions are problematic Much as I'd rather not accept it, while unions have done a lot of good and have helped workers avoid exploitation, they also seem to have helped workers exploit employers. Perhaps it has been a gradual shift over time, with unions slowly accumulating more and more power. (Perhaps not -- again, I welcome your thoughts.)

Unions can have the power to impede a company's ability to compete and thrive. A firm might be in desperate trouble, yet its unions may be unwilling to bend or compromise in order to help the company survive. Many employers find themselves left very inflexible when they have union contracts to abide by.

Some more problems with unions:

Anti-competitiveness. The Socialstudieshelp.com website suggests that, "unions… are victims of their own success. Unions raised their wages substantially above the wages paid to nonunion workers. Therefore, many union-made products have become so expensive that sales were lost to less expensive foreign competitors and nonunion producers."

A decline in the value of merit. In many union settings, workers can't advance much or at all on their merits, but must generally progress within the limits defined by union contracts. Employers may have trouble weeding out ineffective employees if they belong to unions. In theory, at least, unionized workers might become so comfortable and protected that they lose the incentive to work hard for their employer. And outstanding employees might lose their get-up-and-go if there's no incentive to excel -- or worse, if they're pressured by the union to not go the extra mile. Here's a webpage detailing some other union drawbacks.

Is there a problem? So there's both good and bad associated with unions. I suspect that most businesses, and even many or most investors in said businesses, would prefer that the businesses be union-free. But that's easier said than done.

Is ownership an answer? One strategy for companies to avoid unions taking hold on their premises might be to ensure that as many of their workers as possible are as satisfied as possible. That's simple and makes sense, but it can become mighty difficult to maintain as a company grows huge. Another option is to convert employees into owners -- via stock ownership or profit-sharing, for example. If workers have a real stake in a firm's bottom line, they may be more sympathetic to management's point of view and more eager to work extra hard to help the firm succeed.

That's not a perfect solution, though. Starbucks (NYSE: SBUX), for example, is known for awarding stock options. Yet some of its workers in the U.S. and Canada have organized into unions, while others would like to.

Consider also Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV), which has long made employees part-owners via profit-sharing and stock options. It hasn't escaped having unions in its midst. Yet, as this Foundation for Enterprise Development case study notes, "A few years ago the pilots' union at Southwest struck an extraordinary deal with the airline to freeze wage increases for 10 years in exchange for an increased proportional allocation of stock options. The flight attendants' union has since also signed a similar agreement that is unprecedented in the industry." And Southwest has continued to thrive in its notoriously tough industry.

American Airlines, whose parent company is AMR (NYSE: AMR), also decided to issue stock options to its employees, making the announcement in April -- and just a week or so ago it reported a long-elusive (though tiny) profit. Are the two items related? Perhaps, at least to some degree. Though it's worth pointing out that stock options aren't necessarily always attractive. If they're for stock of a shaky company in a wobbly industry, they may not be worth much at all. (Bill Mann noted earlier this year why investors might want to walk away from American Airlines.)

The healthcare crisis If ownership isn't the best answer, perhaps healthcare coverage might be. Along with compensation issues, healthcare is a major factor in the recent strike of grocery workers in California. The unions don't want to lose ground on the healthcare package workers currently receive. The grocery chains are crying that they're being pinched as they fight the threat of Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT) -- yet some have been recording increases in sales and earnings lately. Kroger (NYSE: KR), for example, posted a 3% increase in sales and a 16% increase in earnings between fiscal 2001 and 2002.

What's really going on? I suspect that both sides fear a slippery slope: Workers fear that if they give in a bit on healthcare, they'll eventually lose it all. (And with healthcare costs skyrocketing lately, that's a valid concern.) Employers fear that they're already on a slippery slope as they fight the encroaching behemoth that is Wal-Mart.

The Wal-Mart situation Wal-Mart itself is interesting, when you consider unionization. Thus far, in its not-that-short history, it has escaped having most of its workers belong to unions. But a passionate fight is being waged right now, as workers struggle to establish a union.

This raises interesting questions for us investors: Should we root for the union, as it might lead to more livable wages for employees and might keep more of Wal-Mart's million-plus employees enjoying healthcare benefits? Or should we root for Wal-Mart, figuring that a union will almost certainly put pressure on profits and might threaten the company's ability to sustain its track record of formidable global growth?

I'd like to tell you what I think of the Wal-Mart situation, but I can't. I'm torn. I see both sides of the issue. I wouldn't want to see Wal-Mart unduly restricted by union stipulations. I recognize that although it's enormous, its net profit margins aren't that hefty, at around 4%. That doesn't leave lots of room for adding expenses (though of course there is some room). But at the same time, I wouldn't want employees to be taken advantage of simply because Wal-Mart is big enough to do so. I admire generous companies, ones that treat their workers well. I'd want Wal-Mart to be, as many folks would argue it currently is, fair or even generous to workers. I suppose what I'd like to see is a more perfect solution than a traditional union or successful union-busting.

Questions that remain So after this brief foray into union considerations, I'm left with more questions than answers. Once more, I invite your thoughts. Please share them on our discussion board for this column -- or pop in to see what others are saying. (We're offering a painless free trial of our boards right now.) I hope to revisit this topic soon, to share some of the most compelling responses of yours that I read. Some food for thought:

If unions are no longer so critical, should they disappear, and if so, how? They enjoy many protections by law. By what process might we become a union-free nation?

If unions are indeed still vital, how worried should we be that less than 15% of our workforce belongs to unions, and that this figure has been dropping?

If a company wants to avoid unionization, what is its best strategy?

How might unions and employers/managements better coexist, without one side exploiting the other?

How should investors view companies that have unionized workers? Fool coverage of unions If you're interested in other Fool articles that have touched on unions, look no further. Whitney Tilson recently explained how JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq: JBLU) is "JetBlue is ALPA's (the militant and powerful Air Line Pilots Association) worst nightmare, and they will do anything to unionize JetBlue." And earlier this year, I questioned whether Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT) was exploiting employees and received many responses from readers.


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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
Unions have their own agenda and it has nothing to do with
working with a company to increase profits. Invariably,
union members consider capitalism their worst enemy.
41 posted on 10/30/2003 1:25:55 PM PST by upcountryhorseman
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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
"If a company wants to avoid unionization, what is its best strategy? "

I think companies have figured this out hence, union membership is declining. Union growth comes if workers feel squashed. The government has provided workers a lot of what the unions once did. Companies have come a long way since the company owned mining towns and the advent of the Molly Maguires to protect the miner's families.

The Reagan Democrats are not wanted by today's Wall Street Republicans.Right now the old union types like police, firemen and trapped miners are just photo-ops. I imagine the union California firefighters better get ready for invites.

42 posted on 10/30/2003 1:28:05 PM PST by ex-snook (Americans needs PROTECTIONISM - military and economic.)
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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
"What I am against is the socialist principles that many unions still represent. The biggest of these: making everyone equal."

Add to that, the "classification" syndrom and you have a great example of socialism to study here in the US.
43 posted on 10/30/2003 1:32:25 PM PST by CSM (Shame on me for attacking an unarmed person, a smoke gnatzie!)
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To: Willie Green
"Bullcrap. Like corporations, unions are merely artificial entities representing the financial interests of their membership. Overall, they exist in (more or less) balanced opposition to each other."

Yep, that's why the UAW labor companies productivity is extremely underporforming it's competition. That is why it takes a unionized automotive plant from 7.5 hours to 8.5 hours to build one vehicle, while the non-unionized transplants take about 4.5 hours on average. Productivity is a major measurement that the UAW wants pulled from their performance criteria.

The UAW is costing the big 3 huge and will continue to do so until they allow flexibility of job classifications. I am all for treating employees fairly and safely, however that street needs to go both ways!
44 posted on 10/30/2003 1:39:52 PM PST by CSM (Shame on me for attacking an unarmed person, a smoke gnatzie!)
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To: upcountryhorseman
Ding, Ding, we have a winner!
45 posted on 10/30/2003 1:44:18 PM PST by CSM (Shame on me for attacking an unarmed person, a smoke gnatzie!)
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To: CSM; All
Add to that, the "classification" syndrome and you have a great example of socialism to study here in the US.

Very good point. It's the evil and greedy CEO vs. the oppressed laborer. You want to see an oppressed laborer? Look at a field worker for one of Castro's tobacco or sugar fields. Now that's oppression.

46 posted on 10/30/2003 1:47:30 PM PST by proud_member_of_ VRWC (....this vast left wing conspiracy, conspiring against my country since the day Bush took office)
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To: John O
The concept of a union goes against the biblical precepts displayed in this parable.

You'll find the following encyclicals more thoroughly documented than the few verses that you've chose to interpret out of context.

Pope Leo XIII: Rerum Novarum (On the Condition of Workers)
Pope Pius XI: Quadragesimo Anno (On Reconstruction of the Social Order)
Pope John Paul II: Laborem Exercens:(On Human Work)

47 posted on 10/30/2003 2:00:10 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
Unions, concept good - actuality bad. Unions almost without exception end up being run or controlled by corrupt individuals.
48 posted on 10/30/2003 2:09:01 PM PST by hgro
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To: bert
"Unions are for people who don't want to work."

Not always; the union member I know (MAJOR builder of airplanes)is always happy to work on a holiday(triple overtime or something like that). Of course, at the slightest sniffle or hangnail, he calls in sick.
49 posted on 10/30/2003 3:34:16 PM PST by Maria S ("When the passions become masters, they are vices." Pascal, 1670)
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To: Maria S
the union member I know......

Ha Ha Ha, you are right.

50 posted on 10/30/2003 4:09:58 PM PST by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Unions were once good (in the 1930's and 40's). Unions now BAD!!!

I agree with this assessment. Unions were a force for good up until they adopted the politics of the lead pipe, the brick, and the baseball bat.

51 posted on 10/30/2003 4:13:35 PM PST by jpl
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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
The question of whether unions are good or bad really hinges on whether you believe labor economics theories work, work effectively, and produce desirable results.

If Steinbeck's "Grapes of Wrath" is to be believed, the formation of unions began during the great dust bowl days when the supply of labor in California so greatly exceeded demand that the wage was driven to below what a person could live on. (And they were happy to get it). But in addition to a supply/demand inequality there was also employer collusion which agravated the situation.

The question is does labor economics always produce fair wages? And what are fair wages?

Unionized labor can indeed make an industry uncompetive relative to other markets (ex Foreign countries) that do not have unions. However our markets are uncompetitive to "slave labor" markets of China, despite the decline in unions. So I think we need to figure out some way of protecting our markets as opposed to always trying to compete in a world where "free trade" and technology and telecommunications can transport any advance world wide in a matter of minutes.

52 posted on 10/30/2003 5:28:07 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Willie Green; All
Well said. The notion of the BIBLE coming into it, or any other religion besides worshipping at the altar of the manager, is complete horse manure. And you have made your point perfectly--unions aren't ANY worse than other affiliations of those with like interests, such as joint-stock corporations or auto club members or the NRA.

I don't like the UAW, the Teamsters, or the NEA either. But I have been outside the U.S. long enough to know that the unions that are fighting management in many other countries need to desperately in order to improve worker wages, hours, and safety so they actually earn a living and are not slaves.

It's the fault of government regulators that look the other way here and abroad that push people into the arms of unions. Investors and managers should be paid for their risk, but when managers make money win or lose (see many, many examples this year of managers making money via golden parachutes while their companies go into the tank), rank-and-file workers will ALWAYS be resentful, and a union may be their only recourse. If more employers treated their employees as they'd prefer to be treated (like Southwest), there would be incredible results for all parties. I'm not saying the Golden Rule should apply to all business transactions, but when it isn't, the result is eventually going to be a loss of productivity. And that's what all businesses are supposed to be about, producing value.

I don't hate unions NEARLY as much as I hate the government ignoring its duty to enforce its own laws in a quest to satisfy corporate donors and labor leaders instead of its constituents' wishes. When laws are routinely flouted and government inspectors paid off daily to ignore those violations, how can we NOT expect workers to run to the arms of unions that say 'we can help you fight the nasty boss man?' counterproductive as it might be for them in the long run?
53 posted on 10/30/2003 5:40:29 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The scariest nine words in the English Language: We're from the government. We're here to help you.)
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To: proud_member_of_ VRWC
Union management - A bunch of thugs.
Union members - some bad, most good people.

At one time, the unions were needed. Today though, as shown with the latest UAW contacts, they aren't needed anymore. The one issue they need to fight, they aren't. That's OUTSOURCING.

54 posted on 10/30/2003 5:43:50 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (Don't blame me. I voted for Rocky.)
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To: John O
In Stephen King's novel "Desperation", there is a character which frequently exclaims "God is cruel", after pointing out example after example of tragidies (i.e. painful things) that just cannot be explained in any rational state of mind. I use to laugh at that sentiment, but after seeing the state of our world, I am now inclined to agree.

God IS cruel.

Perfect, Just and Omnipotent maybe..but still Cruel.

55 posted on 10/30/2003 5:45:50 PM PST by Windsong
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To: Windsong
tragidies = tragedies
56 posted on 10/30/2003 5:46:44 PM PST by Windsong
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To: Windsong
You guys aren't going to like my comment, but here goes: I'm a union member of a federal agency and I'm retiring tomorrow (Oct. 31st) because my union negotiated an early retirement for members in contract negotiations. Otherwise there might have been layoffs. So I have to say that I support unions to get the best deal for employees, and allege that they protect employees from management excesses. Management of course would prefer to terminate people when the rolls need cut. If your workplace doesn't have a strong union, your goose is cooked. Yup, I said you wouldn't like my post!
57 posted on 10/30/2003 6:01:03 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Inspectorette
I envision a huge round of layoffs after the strike is settled.

I don't see this strike settling (also the MTA mechanics strike). I think this is the final line for unions -- I don't know what happens if the Supermarkets NEVER return to the bargaining table. After about a year I have to assume the 100% scab workforce will pretty much BE the workforce.

Both the supermarkets and MTA picked the worse possible place to strike: In california there are many alternatives for grocery shipping -- there are 4 within 3 blocks of where I live -- Jons, 99 Ranch, Costco, Trader Joes, etc. As far as the MTA goes, everyone drives except the very, very poor -- and despite the shouting, they are both small in number and have no political voice.

I am watching these strikes with interest and no small anount of glee.

58 posted on 10/30/2003 6:10:39 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: DannyTN; All
So I think we need to figure out some way of protecting our markets as opposed to always trying to compete in a world where "free trade" and technology and telecommunications can transport any advance world wide in a matter of minutes.

IMHO, the first step toward protecting our markets would be to eliminate the pitfalls inherent to union influence. What I am referring to are the costs of work stoppages and overhead absorption due to incompetent and/or unmotivated workers. These factors play a key role in the viability of a business, particularly manufacturing firms.

God gave man instinct. One facet of instinct is the will to survive and to better one's situation. I believe that organized labor suppresses this instinct by attempting to make everyone equal. As I said in an earlier post to this thread, attitude as well as aptitude should determine altitude. When you take away the need for these, the machine will most definitely break down.

59 posted on 10/30/2003 6:27:06 PM PST by proud_member_of_ VRWC (....this vast left wing conspiracy, conspiring against my country since the day Bush took office)
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To: CSM
Come on, you're using productivity in an unfair comparision. Union-staffed factories in the U.S. are mostly running on older lines, not the new ones built to accommodate hi-tech assembly procedure. Higher productivity isn't necessarily as physically possible in those plants. And don't forget that internationally, Korea and Japan have damn strong unions and generally have incredible assembly times in comparison to the U.S.
contracts is not wrong; that they have hurt the country's manufacturing base and limited freedom of contract is.

I'm not out to defend the UAW or fat-cat union contracts. I just don't think it's wrong for people to work together--if owners can legally collude in the marketplace with government assistance, and they do (IATA being a prime example), why workers shouldn't have the same ability to do so is unfathomable. Are the people who here stand against unions actually suggesting we ban them, and the right of free association? How? I'm not saying workers can't fire them at will, or I am a member! Just that unions can serve a purpose and aren't any more inherently evil than other associative groups.
60 posted on 10/30/2003 6:50:45 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The scariest nine words in the English Language: We're from the government. We're here to help you.)
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