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Questions raised about Terri's collapse
WorldNetDaily.com | October 26, 2003 | WND

Posted on 10/26/2003 2:53:25 PM PST by joesnuffy

MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH Questions raised about Terri's collapse Celebrated forensic pathologist says 1990 injuries should be investigated

Posted: October 26, 2003 5:45 p.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

A world-renowned forensic pathologist with over 40 years experience as a medical examiner, is challenging the official version of early events in the Terri-Schindler Schiavo case, providing the parents of the brain-disabled woman with powerful ammunition in their battle to save their daughter's life from her court-ordered starvation death.

Interviewed on the Fox News Channel, Michael Baden, co-director of the Investigative Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago – which left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak – and pointed to head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause.

Baden explained to host Greta van Susteren it was unlikely for a woman of Terri's age at the time to have a potassium imbalance, unless she had certain types of diseases, which she didn't have.

"Too little potassium can cause the heart to stop beating properly and lead to lack of blood flow to the brain and death of brain cells by lack of oxygen, but that's very unusual, Greta, extremely unusual," he said.

That Terri's heart was healthy would rule out the likelihood of cardiac arrest, he said.

"The reason she's in the state she's in is because there was a period of time, maybe 5 minutes or 8 minutes, when not enough oxygen was going to her brain," said Baden. "That can happen because the heart stops for 5 or 8 minutes, but she had a healthy heart, from what we can see."

Baden said he studied a bone scan made in March 1991at a hospital, that describes her as having a head injury. "That's why she's there, that's why she's getting a bone scan."

"A head injury can cause, can lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo is in now," he continued, adding it showed evidence of other injuries, bone fractures.

Something totally different

Van Susteren asked if he were suggesting a potassium imbalance caused a fall that led to a head injury, or perhaps some "pre-existing head injury [led] to her passing out."

"Something totally different," Baden answered.

Baden said the injuries suggested some kind of trauma. "The trauma can be from an auto accident, the trauma can be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It's something that should have been investigated in 1991 when those findings were fresh," and added, "Maybe they were. Maybe they were investigated by the police at that time."

The Fox News interview with Michael Baden and information on Terri's fight for life is posted on the family's website.

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KEYWORDS: assault; braindamage; euthanasia; florida; jebbush; michaelschiavo; pathologist; righttokill; terrischiavo
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1 posted on 10/26/2003 2:53:26 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
"a medical examiner, is challenging the official version of early events in the Terri-Schindler Schiavo case, providing the parents of the brain-disabled woman with powerful ammunition in their battle to save their daughter's life from her court-ordered starvation death."

I don't understand. Didn't they pass a law and now she can't be put to death? What battle is there now?

2 posted on 10/26/2003 2:57:52 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: joesnuffy
Is that the same guy who was accused of doing autopsies at his house on his dining room table?


Just wondering.

3 posted on 10/26/2003 2:59:11 PM PST by Gringo1 (Some days you are the pidgeon....and other days the statue.)
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To: Batrachian
I don't understand. Didn't they pass a law and now she can't be put to death?

It's on hold. Her husband and pro-death groups are still fighting to starve her to death.

4 posted on 10/26/2003 3:03:52 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: joesnuffy
okay. so if she had a potassium imbalance she would have had to aquire it from serious loss, from diuretics or laxatives. and i mean LOTS of em! Does a prescription even exist from a doctor that she had some?

We will never know because her husband has requested that her medical records be sealed.

If she had a heart attack from this 'imbalance' then her heart SHOULD DEFINATELY have damage that can be seen during an electrocardiogram, or an echocardiogram...can we check this out?

We can't because her husband will not allow it.

Does she have any scarring, bone trauma caused by an attempted choking/strangulation? Can any of these suspicious questions be answered through an autopsy if she is successfully murdered by starvation.

WE WILL NEVER KNOW... because Michael Schaivo will NOT allow an autopsy!

hmmm...maybe he is trying to hide something?


5 posted on 10/26/2003 3:04:48 PM PST by ecru
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To: joesnuffy
Interviewed on the Fox News Channel, Michael Baden, co-director of the Investigative Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago – which left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak – and pointed to head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause.

Good. I think she needs a guardian replacement. In my opinion, there's too many reasons for her husband wanting her dead.
I'd like to see a complete, unbiased investigation into the Terri issue. What happened to her? Would her husband have more to gain by her death other than his freedom, and - as he claims- to fill her wish?

6 posted on 10/26/2003 3:08:38 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: ecru
I don't know why everyone is beating around the bush here. Her husband tried to kill her back in 1991 and is still trying to cover it up by finishing the job through the courts. He gets insurance money, and at the same time covers up his attempted murder. I'm glad to see that someone is finally investigating the circumstances behind her condition.
7 posted on 10/26/2003 3:13:39 PM PST by 11B3 (Use the Gitmo prisoners for bayonnet course target dummies.)
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To: Gringo1
Google searches reveal this, contended by his wife:

"DATE: 1997 In January, the wife of Dr. Michael Baden ... filed papers in her divorce action against him in New York City. According to his wife's papers, Baden once performed a pair of autopsies on the couple's dining room table"

8 posted on 10/26/2003 3:13:47 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Rush speaks on gutless 'Liberalism' (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim
Baden once performed a pair of autopsies on the couple's dining room table"

How many times can a dining room table die?

9 posted on 10/26/2003 3:16:48 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: joesnuffy
Michael Baden, MD, a familiar face on cable news networks, has conducted more than 20,000 autopsies in his career spanning more than four decades. Baden frequently serves as investigator and expert witness in high-profile forensic cases. Past cases have included the murders of Chandra Levy, JonBenet Ramsey, Nicole Brown Simpson and Sunny von Bulow. Baden has served on the Congressional Select Committee on Assassinations, which conducted a reopened investigation of the John F. Kennedy killing. He was New York City medical examiner from 1960 to 1985 and currently serves as co-director of the Medicolegal Investigative Unit of the New York State Police. Baden is also the author of "Unnatural Death: Confessions of a Medical Examiner" (1989) and "Dead Reckoning: The New Science of Catching Killers" (2001), and host of the HBO series "Autopsy."

10 posted on 10/26/2003 3:16:56 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
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To: _Jim
Doesn't mean he isn't a good ME.

Gives "bringing your work home with you" new meaning doesn't it? LoL.

11 posted on 10/26/2003 3:16:59 PM PST by ecru
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To: _Jim
According to his wife's papers

Divorce cases can get pretty mean. Because she said it doesn't mean it's true. Was she sueing for big money?

12 posted on 10/26/2003 3:17:55 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: Senator Pardek
LoL! I never thought of that!

Very witty =)
13 posted on 10/26/2003 3:18:21 PM PST by ecru
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To: 11B3
I don't know why everyone is beating around the bush here. Her husband tried to kill her back in 1991 and is still trying to cover it up by finishing the job through the courts.

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I'm not beating around the bush. That's what I suspect happened.

14 posted on 10/26/2003 3:20:07 PM PST by RLK
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To: ecru
Doesn't mean he isn't a good ME.

DIDN'T say he wasn't ... ALL the references on Google seem to have the same origin, too ("News of the Weird") ...

15 posted on 10/26/2003 3:20:13 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Rush speaks on gutless 'Liberalism' (RealAudio files))
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To: concerned about politics
Divorce cases can get pretty mean.

That's what I'm thinking ...

16 posted on 10/26/2003 3:20:59 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Rush speaks on gutless 'Liberalism' (RealAudio files))
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To: ecru
That's why they keep me here...
17 posted on 10/26/2003 3:22:07 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
How many times can a dining room table die?

Until ... it hasn't got a leg to stand on?

(Question asked - question answered.)

18 posted on 10/26/2003 3:22:37 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Rush speaks on gutless 'Liberalism' (RealAudio files))
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To: _Jim
i was just ribbing ya =)

i would think that cutting people up for 40 years would certainly make you an odd person. or at least give you one heck of an odd sense of humor.

19 posted on 10/26/2003 3:23:49 PM PST by ecru
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To: _Jim
I suppose he went for a different saw in this case.
20 posted on 10/26/2003 3:28:52 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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