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Demonstrators march against Iraq occupation
The Washington Times ^ | October 26, 2003 Page A9 | Denise Barnes and Judith Person

Posted on 10/26/2003 9:23:02 AM PST by sauropod

Busloads of antiwar demonstrators from a hundred American cities rallied in the District yesterday, calling for an end to the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq and demanding an immediate withdrawal of American troops.

Protesters from Maine and Colorado beat drums and chanted "Bring them home and impeach Bush" as they marched past the White House and the Justice Department yesterday afternoon. Many carried homemade placards that read, "Never Prouder to be a Non-Republican" and "Bush Lied — Americans Died."

Some donned fanciful costumes to underscore their views.

Dr. Alan Meyers, a pediatrician from Boston, came to the rally dressed as a missile. The protest, he said, showed the world "that Americans are dead set against what the Bush administration is up to — at home and abroad — and especially in Iraq."

"We never should have gone into Iraq in the first place," he said. "[The invasion] was based on a pack of lies."

The antiwar rally, which took place at the Mall, was the first major demonstration since May 1 when Mr. Bush declared an end to major combat in Iraq.

Organizers said the time was right to hold the rally and march because Americans were becoming increasingly suspicious of Mr. Bush's Iraq policy.

No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, they argue, and troop casualties are rising. So far, 108 have been killed by hostile fire since May 1. A total of 347 U.S. soldiers and Marines have died from hostile fire, accidents and other causes since Operation Iraqi Freedom began in March.

Organizers estimated that 100,000 people turned out for the demonstration, but police at the scene put the number much lower, from 10,000 to 20,000. U.S. Park Police no longer issue official crowd estimates, so the size of the protest could not be verified.

International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism) and United for Peace and Justice, which brought together about 600 groups, held similar demonstrations in San Francisco yesterday.

Mr. Bush was spending the weekend at Camp David in Maryland.

About 100 people held a simultaneous counterdemonstration on the other side of the Mall, near the Capitol.

The D.C. chapter of Free Republic, an independent conservative group, gathered to show support for Mr. Bush and the troops in Iraq. The group gathered under a banner that read, "God bless our soldiers' liberation the world of one tyrant at a time."

"I don't think [International ANSWER] should be the only loud, obnoxious voice here," said Mike Gregory, who traveled from New Hampshire to show his support for Mr. Bush's policies in Iraq.

Mark Walker, who had just returned from a military tour of Kuwait, said protests don't hurt the morale of military personnel as long as counterdemonstrations are held at the same time. "What hurts the morale is when the media only reports the negative," he said.

A moment of confrontation came when a dozen or more counterdemonstrators used bullhorns to shout at the antiwar protesters. They carried signs saying "Trust Jesus" and "God Hates You." Police on horses stood between the groups.

Before the march, peace activists and representatives of various interest groups criticized Mr. Bush's policies in Iraq.

Fernando de Solar Suarez, a father of a Marine who was killed in Iraq shortly after the war began, said the United States doesn't need any more deaths. "President Bush — wrongly called president — has lied to the entire world about this war," said Mr. Suarez, whose son Jesus was killed in action.

The Rev. Graylan Hagler of Plymouth Congregational Church in the District said the war was "built on a lie."

"We're standing up here today in D.C. ... We are the people. We understand the war was built on a lie," he told the protesters, who cheered. "It's time now to bring the troops home. It's time to send Bush packing back to Texas."

Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark told the crowd that the greatest threat to peace and security are Mr. Bush's policies, not terrorism. "This president made us international outlaws. Even in Australia, we can't go there without being jeered," he said as the protesters applauded. "What we've done in Afghanistan and Iraq is the greatest crime known."

Protester Zak Fayer can't vote yet, but the 16-year-old from New Jersey said he felt that it was important for him to attend the rally and march. The 10th-grader who attends Eastern High School in Voorhees, N.J., said he's politically active in school and predicts that Mr. Bush will not be re-elected.

"We should have never have been in Iraq. It's an illegal war," Zak said. "But, people coming together today will make a difference. The people's voice should be stronger than the White House's voice."

A group of about 300 military family members with Military Families Speak Out (MFSO) also joined the antiwar demonstrators.

"I don't think there is any reason for war," said Anne Alvallee, 44, of Massachusetts. She said she is a pacifist and that her father fought in Normandy during World War II.

As an organization, MFSO is opposed to the U.S.-led invasion and occupation of Iraq. Members gathered under a banner that said: "Military families say bring them home now!"


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Notice the section I bolded and put in red font. This group was not associated with us. My girlfriend believes this to be Fred Phelp's group.

Sloppy writing. This basically constitutes a smear.

1 posted on 10/26/2003 9:23:03 AM PST by sauropod
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To: jonalvy44
BTW, your picture made the paper here.
2 posted on 10/26/2003 9:23:39 AM PST by sauropod (Fry Mumia!)
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To: kristinn; Angelwood; tgslTakoma; BillF; L_Von_Mises; staytrue; Doctor Raoul; dixie sass; Taxman; ...
Comments?
3 posted on 10/26/2003 9:24:56 AM PST by sauropod (Fry Mumia!)
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A total of 347 U.S. soldiers and Marines have died from hostile fire, accidents and other causes

Let's be sure and try to boost the numbers by throwing in soldiers killed in accidents and "other causes." Of course, your chances of dying as a U.S. soldier in Iraq are still lower than your chances of dying as a jogger in Washington D.C.

4 posted on 10/26/2003 9:31:13 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: sauropod
Demonstrators march against Iraq occupation liberation
5 posted on 10/26/2003 9:31:26 AM PST by AHerald
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To: sauropod
"We never should have gone into Iraq in the first place," he said. "[The invasion] was based on a pack of lies."

This is always thrown out by these prix, but never backed up. It just is not going to resonate with the American people they obviously see the B.S. these anti-war Democratic party liberals are trying to spew! I hope Dean gets the nod because if this is their message to America then they are going no where. Stupid, baseless, spineless, socialist/communist dems!

What lies? By who? They might as well deam theirselves as the NOWARE PARTY!

6 posted on 10/26/2003 9:52:25 AM PST by sirchtruth
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There were Kucinich people and DUh people in the crowd.
7 posted on 10/26/2003 9:58:16 AM PST by sauropod (Fry Mumia!)
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What lies? By who? They might as well deam theirselves as the NOWARE PARTY!

By WHOM

8 posted on 10/26/2003 10:01:42 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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"Dr. Alan Meyers, a pediatrician from Boston, came to the rally dressed as a missile"

Craftily disguising his normal resemblance to a phallus.
9 posted on 10/26/2003 10:03:17 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Diversity means having more than one weapon handy.)
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To: sauropod
online or in print? it was great meeting you, btw. I was very proud to walk with all of you.
10 posted on 10/26/2003 10:14:27 AM PST by jonalvy44
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"your chances of dying as a U.S. soldier in Iraq are still lower than your chances of dying as a jogger in Washington D.C."

Unfortunately this viewpoint, while technically true, dilutes the sacrifice that our Soldiers are making.
11 posted on 10/26/2003 10:28:16 AM PST by Elkhound4
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Notice the section I bolded and put in red font. This group was not associated with us.

I was hoping not. When the reporters quote those "red letter" kooks it has the effect of alienating all intelligent and even Christian people, making it seem as though the pro-Bush demonstrators were crazy religious nuts. That really stuck out in the article as an unfair representation of the pro-war demonstrators.

12 posted on 10/26/2003 10:50:44 AM PST by ThirstyMan
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Unfortunately this viewpoint, while technically true, dilutes the sacrifice that our Soldiers are making.

True and I'm not so sure it is "technically true" either. Sources?

13 posted on 10/26/2003 10:55:54 AM PST by ThirstyMan
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Washington D.C. had 262 murders last year.

Since President Bush declared an end to major combat in Iraq on May 1, 109 U.S. soldiers have been killed by hostile fire. That is roughly an annual rate of 218 per year.

This just compares your chances of being murdered in D.C. vs. your chances of being killed by hostile fire as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. I don't have time to google the numbers right now, but I am willing to bet that if you throw in the number of people killed by accidents and all other causes (as they do in this article) then the death rate in D.C. (with car accidents, drug overdoses, illness and old age deaths) is far, far greater than the overall death rate of U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

I am not in any way trying to diminish the sacrifice of our soldiers in Iraq. I wish that it were possible to prevent the death or injury of a single soldier. It is important, however, to put it in context, particularly when the democRATs and their media lackeys insist on calling Iraq a quagmire and comparing it to Viet Nam (where the daily death toll frequently exceeded the total death toll in Iraq).

14 posted on 10/26/2003 11:23:49 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: sauropod
Did either of these reporters even come to our rally? Did they see any of the Protest Warriors signs? How did they happen to miss us and find the kooks?
16 posted on 10/26/2003 1:46:55 PM PST by maica (Rush is in my prayers)
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did anyone even see those buses from the 100 cities?
Very sloppy reporting by the Washington Times!
17 posted on 10/26/2003 1:48:20 PM PST by maica (Rush is in my prayers)
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To: jonalvy44
In print.

Dittos.

18 posted on 10/26/2003 2:03:28 PM PST by sauropod (Fry Mumia!)
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I'm not sure it's technically true, either. The population of Washington, DC is 572,000, the number of soldiers is approximately 130,000. If someone wants to use that argument, and it is used continually, it would be more logical to compare the number of deaths per thousand, wouldn't it? The disparity in numbers in this example isn't as huge in many of the other comparisons used around here, at least.
19 posted on 10/26/2003 2:03:50 PM PST by halfdome
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To: maica
I was interviewed by the Washington Times yesterday. The reporter was not really familiar with the DC Chapter.
20 posted on 10/26/2003 2:05:16 PM PST by sauropod (Fry Mumia!)
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