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Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case)
AP | 10/25/03 | Vickie Chachere

Posted on 10/25/2003 9:46:41 AM PDT by kattracks

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer has been called a murderer and equated with the Roman governor who condemned Jesus to death. He has been vilified in Internet chat rooms and has received death threats by e-mail.

Greer is the judge who granted Terri Schiavo's husband permission to remove her feeding tube in one of the longest and most contentious right-to-life battles. His decision was second-guessed and essentially overridden by the Florida Legislature and Gov. Jeb Bush last week.

Following judicial code of conduct, Greer has been silent about the public debate over the Schiavo case and the criticism he has faced. He declined a request for an interview.

But those who know the 61-year-old probate judge say he is a prudent jurist who probably agonized over his decisions.

"He is such a good and decent man and to have this kind of rap being put on him right now is so unfair," said Mary Repper, a political strategist who has helped Greer's campaigns. "If ever this was to be put into the hands of someone who is going to be fair and do the right thing, George was the right person."

Through four years of hearings and legal wrangling, Greer considered Michael Schiavo's request to remove his severely brain-damaged wife's feeding tube against the wishes of her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler.

A heart attack in 1990 left Terri Schiavo, now 39, in a persistently vegetative state and court-appointed doctors believe there is no hope of recovery. Greer ruled Michael Schiavo showed "clear and convincing" evidence his wife did not want to be kept alive artificially and permitted him to end her nourishment.

The extraordinary reversal of his ruling by Bush and the Legislature will now become the central issue in a new legal fight over the separation of powers that will be waged to overturn what's now known as "Terri's Law."

While Greer has become a key figure in the international news event, few outside of Pinellas County know the man who friends describe as conservative, religious and particularly sensitive to protecting the disabled.

Greer is legally blind and cannot drive. While his condition doesn't hamper his abilities on the bench, colleagues and others said in interviews last week it gives him a perspective in dealing with the rights of the impaired few jurists have.

"He is so conscientious anyway, you put a case involving human life in front of him and it makes him even more careful," said Ed Armstrong, a Clearwater attorney who describes Greer as his mentor. "It's been an ordeal for him too."

Greer is a member of a conservative Baptist church which recently advocated keeping Terri Schiavo alive in a church newsletter. A moderate Republican, Greer served on the Pinellas County Commission for eight years before running unopposed for a circuit judgeship in 1992.

Repper and former Pinellas County Commissioner Charles Rainey said the fact that no one opposed the quiet, studious Greer speaks volumes for how well he is regarded in Pinellas County.

"He's doing what the law says to do. I am sure he struggles with himself, knowing George," Rainey said. "The man did everything he was asked to do as far as checking out the case, checking out the medical situation and he did it two or three times."

Greer is known for answering his own telephone in chambers and until recently being easily accessible to the press, characteristics that his friends say are holdovers from his days of being an elected official.

Born in Brooklyn, N.Y., Greer graduated from Clearwater High School. He graduated from the University of Florida law school and was a successful zoning attorney in Clearwater when he was elected to the county commission in 1984. He been a judge since 1992 and is up for re-election next year.

Michael Schiavo first asked the probate court for permission to disconnect his wife's feeding tube in 1998, saying his wife had told him that she never wanted to be kept alive artificially. Her parents disagree. Two other judges handled the case before it was passed to Greer.

Greer turned down repeated requests from the Schindlers to order therapy for their daughter or to dismiss Michael Schiavo as her guardian. Just this week, Greer set a hearing in November, nearly a year after the Schindlers' last motion for a new guardian, to discuss that issue.

The Schindlers' attorneys attempted to have Greer removed from the case in recent weeks, saying he had improperly discussed the case with others. An appeals court decided Greer would stay.

The Schiavo case is not the only time Greer has been faced with the issue of removing a feeding tube from a vegetative patient. In 2000, the wife and grown children of St. Petersburg attorney Blair Clark faced off in Greer's courtroom after Clark collapsed from a heart attack.

Clark had a living will which said he did not want a feeding tube or respirator if he was determined to be in a permanent vegetative state. But his Chinese-born wife - who disputed her husband was vegetative and believed he could hear her - wanted to try acupuncture and medical techniques from her homeland.

Greer allowed an acupuncturist to administer a treatment session, and then granted Clark's children permission to withdraw their father's feeding tube. Clark's wife did not appeal the decision.

Clark died within days of the tube's removal.

"He was sympathetic and empathetic to the fact that we had somebody who in her culture believed in these alternative methods," said Doug Williamson, who represented the Clark children.

William Mayhew, who represented Clark's wife Ping, said he too believes Greer simply followed the law.

"Many judges would have figured out a way to dump (the Schiavo) case," said Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice, Greer's friend for more than 20 years. "But he stuck by it. He deserves a medal for enduring that alone."



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To: sweetliberty
Good! I hope Greta has her on the show.
181 posted on 10/26/2003 1:31:34 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: fiesti
"Get this girl out in the media to tell her story !!!!!!!!!!"

That is a good idea. I will send the information to Greta. Perhaps she would be interested. Someone have Sean's email address. He might as well.

182 posted on 10/26/2003 1:32:23 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; iowamomforfreedom
This thread looks like it has become a good info thread. Maybe we can encourage everyone to bookmark it and post all factual data here?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1008215/posts
183 posted on 10/26/2003 1:34:04 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: MSCASEY
"Did she ever file an affidavit with the court stating this?"

I don't know. I doubt it. I can't think why they would have even had her do that. I believe they thought they were going to pull this off covertly and it just hasn't quite worked out that way.

184 posted on 10/26/2003 1:36:55 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
The reason why she should have filed an affidavit would be to show consistency with the fact that PMS did not love his wife and there was abuse and fear of him.

MCD
185 posted on 10/26/2003 1:40:38 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: sweetliberty
bump
186 posted on 10/26/2003 1:44:15 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: sweetliberty
Most likely the Schindlers know, but want to keep to the high road. Think what Schiavo and Felos and their champions in the media would say, if the Schindlers sacrificed the privacy of some innocent teen.
As it is, the media will dig it up and the Schindlers will get the blame anyway. If it's true, t'll come out. Count on it.
187 posted on 10/26/2003 1:49:20 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: MSCASEY
I don't get the impression that the Schindlers' attorney is the sharpest sword in the litigation arsenal. Nothing agaisnt her. I expect she is very dedicated to them, but dedication isn't much to work with against an arrogant charlatan like Felos.
188 posted on 10/26/2003 1:50:06 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
>>I don't get the impression that the Schindlers' attorney is the sharpest sword in the litigation arsenal. Nothing agaisnt her.

You're not alone, sweetliberty. This case wasn't supposed to go this long or this far, and now she's outgunned. Not to mention out-financed. Felos can tap Terri's medical funds, Anderson can't. This leaves her clients at a serious disadvantage. She needs a power team of lawyers now, plus a PR firm to counteract the opposition. That takes $$$.
189 posted on 10/26/2003 1:57:26 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Simple, They are not conservatives. Most of these pro death FReepres are libertarians of the Libertarian
Objectivist "Ayn Rand" school. These people are as atheistic and pro death in a lot of cases as ANY DemocRAT
though they do share conservative views on guns and economics. I really think that JimRob should consider ZOT!!
and Kitties for at least Objectivist Libertarians because
like DUers they DO NOT really share the views that Free Republic is trying to present to the world in my opinion.
190 posted on 10/26/2003 2:08:26 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: sweetliberty
>> I truly believe that the only reason he wants her dead so much is because he never wants her to come out of this and point the finger at him for battering her almost to death. He wants to finish what he started that night.

That's certainly one reason. There's another that I've never seen anyone mention. When she's dead, he'll own her estate -- and it will be worth millions. Think of the movie, TV and book rights to her life! For all anyone knows, there could be Terri dolls and Terri cards and Terri trinkets and Terri merchandise of every sort.

Millions. Schiavo knows it. Those nurses swore under oath that Michael would say things like, "Is the b**** dead yet?" and "I'm going to be rich!"

191 posted on 10/26/2003 2:11:14 PM PST by T'wit
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To: Coral Snake
Maybe one of them could point me to where Ayn Rand endorsed euthanizing the disabled?
192 posted on 10/26/2003 2:22:59 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: T'wit; Budge
Budge was just playing some links to video that had been on the local news down there a couple of years ago. I believe they are posted on this thread. Amazing how much has been ignored by the courts. There is no way that woman is vegetative. Of course, we already knew that, but everything I see is just even more convincing. Schiavo wants that woman dead, and that's all he is concerned about at this point and he and Felos will do anything, say anything to get it accomplished. They are working WAY too hard to conceal the truth don't you think?
193 posted on 10/26/2003 2:23:30 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
>> There is no way that woman is vegetative.

Go back and reread the three nurses' affidavits. They all interacted with her to a remarkable degree as they cared for her.

194 posted on 10/26/2003 2:29:01 PM PST by T'wit
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To: Graymatter
It isn't her writings but her ATHIESM that drives many modern Objectivist Libertarians just as Atheism drives many Socialists. Atheism naturally negates the idea of sanctity of life that can only originate form a Creator God.
195 posted on 10/26/2003 2:29:03 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: T'wit
I have read them. I know. I just continue to be amazed that they are trying to kill her. If they succedd, none of us will be safe, at least not for long.
196 posted on 10/26/2003 2:31:01 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Coral Snake
I believe you. I don't follow atheists around, Randian-libertarian or not. But I've read Rand pretty thoroughly. They can't cite Rand for euthanizing anybody. She wouldn't have approved of starving Terri to death.
She considered the right to life paramount and, by her lights, sacred.
And if she didn't believe in God, for sure she wouldn't have believed in Michael Schiavo.
197 posted on 10/26/2003 2:37:03 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: sweetliberty
>> They are working WAY too hard to conceal the truth don't you think?

Y'know, from another angle, it's even worse than that. They are doing all this frantically, whether they can cover up the truth or not and REGARDLESS of what anyone thinks. They've got to kill her off, moot the investigations, and get her estate safely into Michael's hands -- it's going to be worth millions.

198 posted on 10/26/2003 2:42:03 PM PST by T'wit
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To: Graymatter
I listened to Pat Anderson expound on the case for an hour yesterday. I think she's terrific. She has it all at her fingertips and presents the case in striking moral terms. She's intelligent and has obviously worked like a hill of ants.

You're right, of course, that Felos and his team have large advantages, but class isn't one of them. They are unscrupulous where Anderson is not. They have much more money -- Terri's treatment money! They can play the liberal media like a big-mouth bass. And, somehow, they own Judge Greer.

We ourselves can supply some of the firepower needed, so I have some hope we can level the playing field.

199 posted on 10/26/2003 3:04:57 PM PST by T'wit
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To: kattracks; sweetliberty; Mo1; T'wit; All
While nothing (perhaps) to do with Terri, I found this rather telling.
200 posted on 10/26/2003 3:09:03 PM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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