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The Limits of Gun Ownership
http://www.harrybrowne.org/ ^ | October 23, 2003 | Harry Browne

Posted on 10/25/2003 8:54:13 AM PDT by bc2

The Limits of Gun Ownership

by Harry Browne

October 23, 2003

Gun-rights advocates aren't the only people who believe that individuals should be free to own guns. Even gun-control advocates usually specify that they aren't trying to ban all guns.

But most activists on both sides of the gun issue say there must be limits on gun ownership.

Why?

So that guns don't fall into the "wrong" hands.

But if a law could keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerous people, there would be virtually no violent crime at all. Just pass a law specifying that bad people can't own guns and the problem of gun violence is solved.

Unfortunately, things don't work out that way in the real world.

The truth is that no gun-control law works because "bad" people who want guns can always get them. Either they'll buy them in the underworld or they'll simply steal them from good folks like you and me.

But shouldn't there be some limits on gun ownership?

No. Such limits don't reduce crime. They either render innocent people defenseless, give the police more power than they should have, or they are simply stupid, unenforceable laws.

Ex-Cons & Guns

Take, for example, the laws that prevent ex-convicts from acquiring guns.

Makes sense, doesn't it, that someone with a criminal record shouldn't be able to acquire a gun?

No, it doesn't.

If a convicted criminal pays his debt to society, he should have the same rights that every other citizen has — the right of free speech, the right to an attorney, the right to vote, the right to practice his religion, the right of habeas corpus, the right to keep and bear arms.

If he doesn't have the full protection of the Bill of Rights . . .

• He will be vulnerable to any zealous prosecutor who wants to railroad him in order to pad a conviction record.

• He won’t be able to speak freely to others.

• He might not be able to attend church.

• He will be helpless to defend himself from thugs who will have no trouble acquiring guns in the underworld.

Dangerous Weapons

But what about assault weapons? Surely, no innocent person has any need for an assault weapon.

Actually, very few people can define what an assault weapon is. More than anything else, it's a bogeyman designed to scare people into thinking that laws are necessary to stop some folks from running around with weapons that could kill large numbers of people.

But, yes, there are innocent people who have good reason to own assault weapons. During most riots, the police are outnumbered and intentionally stay clear of gangs that are looting and vandalizing. Suppose your life savings are invested in a store the gangs are about to loot. And suppose you have little or no insurance because your store is in a dangerous section of town. How will you defend the store against the looters? With a knife? With a handgun against a dozen attackers? Or with an assault weapon?

If you prevent innocent citizens from acquiring assault weapons, criminal gangs will still acquire them — even if they have to smuggle them into America from thousands of miles away. So why pass laws that disarm only the innocent?

Mad Scientists

But shouldn't there be some limits. Would you want your next-door neighbor building a nuclear bomb in his basement?

If someone is building a bomb next door, he isn't likely to tell you — or anyone else — about it. So what good does it do to pass a law prohibiting it?

Such a law would simply give the police one more excuse to invade and inspect your home (not just that of your neighbor).

Backyard Battalion

Okay, let's make it something out in the open. Would you want your neighbor to have a tank in his backyard?

What business is it of mine what my neighbor wants to keep in his yard? It's his yard, not mine.

If he runs his tank into my yard, he's trespassing and should be prosecuted. But he would be trespassing if he ran his car into my yard, or entered my home without permission, or burnt garbage that stunk up my home. My only concern is that he stay on his side of the boundary — not what he keeps on his side of the boundary.

Gun Laws Don't Work

You might be able to imagine the perfect law that allows just the right people to own just the right types of guns, while prohibiting other citizens from owning inappropriate firearms.

But remember, you're only imagining such a law; it will never be a reality. Once the issue is turned over to the politicians, it will be decided by whoever has the most political influence — and that will never be you or I.

Like most laws, every gun law quickly turns into a tool to reward the friends of the politically powerful and to harm their enemies. But it doesn't make America safer.

The only valid policy is to have no laws regulating the ownership of guns, but to hold every citizen responsible for whatever harm he initiates against others — with or without a gun.

People should never be prosecuted for what they own, for what they think, for what they eat, drink, or smoke, or for what they believe. They should be prosecuted only for the physical harm they do to others.

And people who do harm others should be prosecuted — whether or not a gun is involved, and whether or not there is hate in one's heart or liquor on one's breath.

Harry Browne was the Libertarian Party presidential candidate in 1996 and 2000. He is now the Director of Public Policy for the American Liberty Foundation. You can read more of his articles at www.HarryBrowne.org. His latest book is Fail-Safe Investing.


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interesting article from Harry Browne.

Assault weapons, bombs, tanks... oh my!

1 posted on 10/25/2003 8:54:14 AM PDT by bc2
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To: *bang_list; Joe Brower
bang
2 posted on 10/25/2003 8:54:46 AM PDT by bc2 (http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
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To: bc2
The only limits on the right to bear arms should be identical to those limits imposed on the 1st amendment.
3 posted on 10/25/2003 9:03:55 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: bc2
So just ban and confiscate all guns. That would solve the problem.

Actually, it wouldn't, for the very good reason that criminals won't obey this law any more than they obey any others. Also it would clearly violate the 2nd Amendment (liberals don't care). Lastly, it isn't just criminals who would ignore such a law. This isn't England, where the populace meekly surrender their guns just because the government says so. The citizens of the U.S. never will.

Let's get one thing straight. Gun control isn't about reducing crime. It's about making America safe for tyranny.

4 posted on 10/25/2003 9:05:02 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: Batrachian
True- in fact, even CCW holders are disarmed by the law at airports, schools, and government buildings- making these places LESS safe, not more. But the basic problem here is that liberals just do not trust the people- they are convinced that everything in life has to be left to "experts", including personal defense.

This is the same argument you get from them about bloggers vs. TV network news- the bloggers don't have the benfit of "experts" (that is, editors) to tell them what they can and cannot say. (They use the same argument to prop up an educational system that is manifestly failing millions of children). It is a mindset which is just about impossible to change.

5 posted on 10/25/2003 9:30:12 AM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE ("Oderint dum metuant"- Caligula)
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To: bc2
<< What business is it of mine what my neighbor wants to keep in his yard? It's his yard, not mine. >>

Don't know how it is in other places, but an "inoperable" vehicle (i.e. lacking current registration and safety sticker)in any back yard anywhere in the Dallas metro area will get you in a heap of trouble with the local defenders of civilization.
6 posted on 10/25/2003 9:43:55 AM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: bc2
Guns are bad...mmmkay?
7 posted on 10/25/2003 9:50:04 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: bc2
Actually, very few people can define what an assault weapon is.

It is any weapon that is used for self defense when being assaulted.

8 posted on 10/25/2003 9:52:34 AM PDT by chainsaw
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To: bc2
But shouldn't there be some limits. Would you want your next-door neighbor building a nuclear bomb in his basement?

If someone is building a bomb next door, he isn't likely to tell you — or anyone else — about it. So what good does it do to pass a law prohibiting it?


So that, despite not advertising his activities, if found out, he can be arrested and prosecuted before he completes his project?

9 posted on 10/25/2003 9:59:42 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Jeff Head
You might change my mind one day.

5.56mm

10 posted on 10/25/2003 10:04:01 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: bc2
The only valid policy is to have no laws regulating the ownership of guns, but to hold every citizen responsible for whatever harm he initiates against others — with or without a gun.

That one sentence sums up my philosphy regarding guns and weapons perfectly. It's the ONLY weapons policy that makes sense and would work 100% of the time if followed to the letter.

Now if we just could convince 50 or 60 million other American voters.........

11 posted on 10/25/2003 11:02:51 AM PDT by epow
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To: epow
"The only valid policy is to have no laws regulating the ownership of guns,..."

"That one sentence sums up my philosphy regarding guns and weapons perfectly."

My philosophy as well.

And I will take this philosophy to its logical conclusion.

It is anti-liberty, it is defenseless, and it is dangerous that we allow our federal government to unconstitutionally pass and enforce laws prohibiting the private owners of airline companies from allowing their customers to bear arms on their aircraft to share and help in the defense of their property and other passengers lives from death at the hands of terrorist hijackers.

September 11, 2001 would have never happened. 3000 fellow citizens would have never died because potential hijackers would have known that 10, 30, 60 plus people would be armed on any aircraft to foil such an attempt.

The ultimate blame for the deaths and destruction of property on September 11, 2001 are the federal president's, federal congress people, federaljudges, and voters who supported such unconstitutional, anti-liberty laws now and in the past.

I do not have that blood stain on my hands.

Unconstitutionally prohibiting free, moral people, which are an overwhelming majority of U.S. citizens, from bearing arms, does nothing more than empower the few dangerous citizens among us to commit crimes against we fellow unarmed citizens, as Harry Browne stated in the article.

I voted for Harry Browne in 2000 election.

12 posted on 10/25/2003 11:49:12 AM PDT by tahiti
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To: M Kehoe
50 Million Round March
13 posted on 10/25/2003 12:18:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: tahiti
That right the worst that could have happened was a shoot out.
14 posted on 10/25/2003 12:48:45 PM PDT by KiaKaha
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To: Batrachian
Pass a "MITTEN LAW"

For public safety all
people must wear MITTENS.
So people can't pull the trigger
on those evil assult weapons.

15 posted on 10/25/2003 1:07:37 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: tahiti
It ain't just the federales. Two of those planes took off from Boston's Logan Airport. Boston is the capital of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, once a proud example of gun ownership and rights, but now a cesspool of gun banners.
16 posted on 10/25/2003 2:12:20 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: vannrox; MeeknMing
Registration and licensing of all media people.

Concealed newsprint licenses.

Fingerprinting and digital eyeprints.

works fer me!
17 posted on 10/25/2003 2:16:36 PM PDT by autoresponder (under constructi)
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To: Alas Babylon!; MeeknMing; ambrose
Taxachussetts

Logan Gateway to 911

Passing a DMV lisense for illegal aliens

WTC III

Coming to a building under you soon
18 posted on 10/25/2003 2:20:36 PM PDT by autoresponder (under constructi)
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To: Jeff Head
50 Million Round March

LOL! I was just talking about that the other day. :)

How goes the battle?

19 posted on 10/25/2003 2:27:34 PM PDT by Critter (Going back to sleep til the next revolution.)
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To: tahiti
Your conclusion is perfectly logical and I fully agree with every word. My son flys for a major airline, and they strongly oppose even arming pilots. I think all the major lines oppose it. He says they are opposed because of the potential liability risk. Another way ambulance -chasing lawyers have screwed up this nation, every company is scared out of their wits that they will be sued if someone gets a hangnail on their property or from their product.
20 posted on 10/25/2003 2:40:53 PM PDT by epow
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