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Liberal Challenge: "Nobody Died When Clinton Lied"
1-/24/03 | zeebee

Posted on 10/24/2003 2:58:31 PM PDT by zeebee

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To: cwb
This is perfect! I'm definitely saving this one for future reference, and of course, future use.
101 posted on 01/21/2005 5:11:49 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: zeebee

Typical liberal strawman argument. Who claimed that people died directly as a result of Clinton's lies? That isn't, nor was it ever, the point.

Clinton's lackadaisical, cowardly approach to terrorist attacks (WTC, embassies in Africa, etc.) plastered a giant "Kick Me!" sign on America's back and definitely emboldened Bin Laden and his ilk.

It is no stretch to link this directly to its inevitable conclusion: the 9/11 attacks on our soil.

Now, let's not even get into his gutting of the military and the price we're paying for that now as well........


102 posted on 01/21/2005 5:13:03 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: zeebee
If he wasn't so busy lying, he wouldn't of bombed that asprin factory....

THe first bombing of the WTC was under his watch along with many other bombings all over the world of embassies, etc. He ignored it all. He also bombed Iraq during his joke of a tenure.....for the same reason W did. Clinton admitted there were WMD there too....and he didn't seek any approval from anyone when he bombed Iraq....

103 posted on 01/21/2005 5:13:26 AM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: zeebee

Nobody died when Clinton lied. But several thousand sperm cells had a harrowing experience.


104 posted on 01/21/2005 5:15:05 AM PST by 12B
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To: driftless

Liberals have been getting Americans killed for over forty years. Not only by their penchant for lax national security but for other reasons: weakness on crime that skyrocketed when the death penalty and lenient sentencing for murderers were initiated in the sixties. Partial birth abortion is another crime that can be laid at liberals feet. And promotion of the drug culture that has resulted in millions of Americans throwing away their lives for temporary but deadly thrills. Liberals have a lot to answer for.

They are also communist butt kissers. In the cold war their favorite country was the USSR. They used propaganda to force the US out of Vietnam when that war could have been won. Jimmy Carter dumped Taiwan in favor of China. And of course there is Clinton and Chinagate.

105 posted on 01/21/2005 5:17:12 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: 12B

How about Vince Foster, Ron Brown& his plane full of folks, etc, etc, etc.?????


106 posted on 01/21/2005 5:17:37 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: zeebee
Tell it to the Rwandans. He not only did nothing, he pressured others not to intervene either. They were listening to the massacres on the radio. Everyone knew exactly what was happening. After it was all over and a million people were dead, Clinton had the gall to go apologize for it and pretend he hadn't known.
107 posted on 01/21/2005 5:17:57 AM PST by JasonC
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To: zeebee
Every time we were attacked he said we would track down and punish the perps. Not once did he do a damn thing and that lead DIRECTLY to 9/11 when OBL saw we would not act.

If that fails kick his ass.

108 posted on 01/21/2005 5:20:06 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Clinton has an incredibly long body count of past associates. I'm not so tinfoil hatlike as to beleive they were all did in on the orders of Hill and Bill, but neither am I so naive as to beleive they were all coincidences. Just for starters, you might want to ask some Freeper to link the story of the boys on the track "worst case of suicide I ever done see" . . or do a Google search on Clinton's personal coroner Fahmy Malik who covered up so much for the family.

Clinton was and still is an enemy of the state and should be convicted of high treason. He gave away more nuke secrets than the Rosenbergs could ever dream of to China. He and his little friend Jimmy Carter gave North Korea the nuclear reactors needed for a weapon program. He allowed Bin Ladin to go free when Sudan offered to extradite him. The list goes on.

109 posted on 01/21/2005 5:21:26 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: zeebee

Clinton lied when he promised to go after terrorists and "bring them to justice", and then pardoned a group of convicted Puerto Rican terrorists.

http://www.providence.edu/polisci/students/clinton_pardons/high_profile.html


110 posted on 01/21/2005 5:24:04 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Where does bandwidth go when it is wasted?)
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To: auron_20

No, I mean Watergate. The Democrats who say that no one lied when Clinton died, as if that makes it OK, would never say the same thing about Nixon and the Watergate breakiin. My point is that they are, therefore, hypocrites.


111 posted on 01/21/2005 7:07:58 AM PST by kalt
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To: zeebee

Guess those folks killed when he bombed that aspirin factory don't count eh?


112 posted on 01/21/2005 7:08:29 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

I mentioned this over a year ago (in this same thread) that when Clinton bombed Al-Shifa, he didn't just bomb an aspirin factory...but the Sudan's largest pharmaceutical plant responsible for producing drugs to fight Malaria and Tuberculosis. As a result of this bombing, one report indicated that as many as 10,000 people may have died as a result of not getting these drugs.

This thread is relevant again since it was Barbara Boxer, while grilling Condi a couple days ago, who actually had the nerve to compare Clinton's war (and body count) to that of Bush's. Of course, she only mentioned Kosovo, while leaving out the rest of Clinton's misadventures.

From Somalia to Haiti to Bosnia to Kosovo to Afghanistan to the Chinese Embassy to Iraq x 4...Clinton had a very healthy body count. And these numbers don't include his inactions, in places like Rawanda, East Timor, etc.


113 posted on 01/21/2005 9:48:51 AM PST by cwb
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To: bmwcyle
Thanks for resurrecting this post. Problem is it is over a year old and I don't remember whose face to put this in.

It's still a good excercise in remembering how bad things were and how W has helped this country.

114 posted on 01/22/2005 2:09:32 PM PST by zeebee
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To: fml
"Vince Foster and Ron Brown come to mind."

Vince Foster was left handed...


115 posted on 01/22/2005 2:14:25 PM PST by DocRock
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To: zeebee

Tell him to answer his own question regarding Bush's lies. I even had the "honor" of asking Rick Perlstein this directly and he just gave some lame EPA report.


116 posted on 01/22/2005 2:16:18 PM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: zeebee

Just remember that the janitors that worked here at this aspirin factory were African-Africans, so they don't count when you kill them.

/sarcasm

117 posted on 01/22/2005 2:20:03 PM PST by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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To: zeebee
You realize, of course, that this is part of the talking points, and operates with the assumption that Bush lied to get us into Iraq. The total argument is that Bush is evil, because he lied to get us into Iraq, and Clinton is better, because he lied, but it was "only about sex" and nobody died as a result.
118 posted on 01/22/2005 2:23:35 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: zeebee
WASHINGTON (CP) -- U.S. president Bill Clinton will soon be receiving a subpoena from Canadians infected by HIV-tainted blood donated by Arkansas prisoners.

Canadian hemophiliacs who contracted AIDS and hepatitis C from blood donated by prisoners at the Cummins prison in Arkansas while Clinton was governor of the state want to interview him under oath as part of a $5-billion US lawsuit, victims' lawyer David Harvey said Wednesday.

"We intend to seek a deposition from the president," said Harvey. "At that point, we will consider naming him as a defendant."

About 1,000 Canadians now suffering from deadly diseases from the tainted blood are demanding to know why the U.S. Food and Drug Administration continued to license prison blood centres despite evidence that prisons were hotbeds of HIV and hepatitis C infection.

Some of the convicts -- many of whom were already diagnosed with hepatitis C -- were bled as many as 60 times a year and given $7 for each donation.

The FDA banned use of plasma derived from blood donated by prisoners in anti-hemophilia products in the United States in 1982.

The Cummins prison in Grady, Ark., was notorious for overbleeding prisoners, bleeding disqualified donors and for destroying evidence and records.

Leonard Dunn, the president of Health Management Associates which bought the blood, was a friend of Clinton's and his chief fund-raiser for the 1990 Arkansas governors race.

Clinton to be subpoenaed by Canadian tainted blood victims

119 posted on 01/22/2005 2:28:53 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: bootyist-monk

Don't forget about Desert Fox in Iraq either. We bombed the Shixt out of their Gov't buildings, Republican Guard Barracks and supposedly non existent WMD facilities. No one knows the real loss of life but the Iraqi "Baghdad Bob" at the time claimed 2500 deaths.

Here'e some info to get you started on it.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9812/16/iraq.strike.03/

Of course as a retired military man that served under Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43 I blame every death due to a shortage of manpower and equipment on him. His eight Defense budgets caused great pain on the force and loss of readiness.


120 posted on 01/22/2005 2:37:55 PM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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