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Questions swirl around husband of brain-damaged Florida woman
Chicago Tribune ^ | Thu, Oct. 23, 2003 | BY MICHAEL MARTINEZ AND PATRICK KAMPERT

Posted on 10/23/2003 8:22:40 PM PDT by Gelato

Posted on Thu, Oct. 23, 2003

Questions swirl around husband of brain-damaged Florida woman

BY MICHAEL MARTINEZ AND PATRICK KAMPERT
Chicago Tribune

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - (KRT) - Michael Schiavo is in hiding, concerned over threats to his life, his attorney said Thursday. Yet the attorney for the parents of Schiavo's wife, Terri, the brain-damaged woman at the center of a contentious end-of-life case, says Michael Schiavo was seen shopping at an upscale Tampa mall in recent days.

As an advocacy agency continued its state investigation of Terri Schiavo's case Thursday and her parents resumed their vigil outside the hospice near St. Petersburg where she was receiving nutrition through a feeding tube, questions multiplied about Michael Schiavo's role and motivations.

Terri Schiavo "looks great," her father, Bob Schindler, said Thursday, even as legal scholars and medical ethicists criticized Gov. Jeb Bush's intervention this week to reinsert her feeding tube and predicted that a new law signed by Bush allowing that action would be struck down in the courts.

The growing national fascination with a case wrapped in a quality-of-life drama that many families know all too well increased the pressure on Michael Schiavo to tell his story. He issued a three-page statement through his attorneys to explain his position earlier this week. The statement tries to humanize a man who has been portrayed in testimony and affidavits as a tall, menacing bully who grew weary of his wife's continued presence in a persistent vegetative state as he built a life and a new family with a longtime girlfriend.

"I never wanted Terri to die," Michael Schiavo wrote. "I still don't. After … years of desperately searching for a cure for Terri, the death of my own mother helped me realize that I was fooling myself."

Even his attorneys acknowledged the need for Schiavo to surface publicly.

"It's been very difficult for him to understand and accept that he has got to publicize his situation," attorney Deborah Bushnell said. "He doesn't want this to be public; he wants it to be private."

Yet with more public attention focused on the case than in the preceding 10 years, Michael Schiavo - as his wife's legal guardian - publicly banned his wife's family from visiting her Wednesday at a Clearwater hospital and initially refused to disclose where he planned to transport her. She later was returned to Woodside Hospice, where she has lived since April 2000 and where Michael Schiavo's other attorney, George Felos, is a former board chairman. On Thursday, Michael Schiavo once again allowed the Schindler family to visit Terri.

Though her family has no access to Terri's medical records, Pat Anderson, attorney for her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, speculated that she was too weak for the move. "She needs to be in an intensive-care unit," Anderson said.

Thus, for the second time this week, Felos was left to explain to reporters Thursday the reasons his client continues to seek the removal of his wife's feeding tube.

Felos used this analogy as a window into his client's motivation: A couple is sitting around watching TV and sees a program about a horrible illness or an accident. They turn to each other and ask that they each not be kept alive artificially.

"That's basically what happened between Terri and Michael, and he's just determined to keep his promise," Felos said. "I think he's unable to live the rest of his life if he walked away knowing he let Terri down and was unable to keep his promise to her."

Bob Schindler Jr., 38, Terri Schiavo's brother and a teacher at a Tampa Catholic school, said his family believes the Advocacy Center for Persons with Disabilities will turn up evidence of abuse and neglect in its investigation of Michael Schiavo's guardianship.

Michael Schiavo has strongly denied those allegations.

But Schindler charges an effort to cover up "attempted murder" is the reason behind Michael Schiavo's determination to let Terri die and cremate her body since there no longer is any money for Michael Schiavo to inherit from his wife's medical fund, which was depleted largely by Michael Schiavo's legal costs.

"The money has now deteriorated," Schindler said outside the hospice on Thursday. "That's why Michael is trying to kill her. If she wakes up and gets rehabilitated, she can tell us what happened that night (in 1990) - that's one theory why he wants her dead and cremated. Why does he want her cremated? If you start connecting the dots, it paints an ugly picture."

Michael Schiavo's attorneys say the Schindler family's accusations are fabrications born of desperation as their legal fight has foundered over the years.

Schindler said a bone scan taken a year after his sister's mysterious collapse 13 years ago recently surfaced; it shows a history of trauma, including broken bones. Schindler lived in the same St. Petersburg apartment complex as his sister and brother-in-law in 1990. He says Michael Schiavo knew CPR but did not perform it the night Terri collapsed and was deprived of oxygen for 10 minutes. Schindler said his family and their doctors suspect Terri Schiavo was beaten and suffered brain damage.

Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney, says the bone scan only shows the normal changes of a sedentary person in a nursing home.

Felos vowed again Thursday to challenge the governor's new law all the way to the Florida Supreme Court.

Arthur Caplan of the University of Pennsylvania, one of the world's leading bioethicists who spoke this week at the annual meeting of the American College of Surgeons in Chicago, says he thinks the law will tumble.

"I think the action by the governor and the state legislature is immoral and unconstitutional," he said. "When did the Florida Legislature decide it couldn't trust its courts? The principle here is: Let a spouse make the decisions for their loved ones because they know them best."

Caplan pointed out that courts have consistently ruled in favor of Michael Schiavo even though his wife's parents and siblings have alleged he abused her.

"Look at the evidence," he said. "They keep coming back and saying, no, he's not in it for life insurance; he's not in it because he doesn't care for her. It's just that (the biological family members) want to be the decision-maker."

Caplan said the case also has implications for couples without a marriage license.

"If you're not married, if you're gay, or a common-law wife or husband who've been together for a long time, if this law holds up, then your mom is going to make the decisions, not your partner. You have no legal rights. They're out the window."

As to Terri Schiavo's legal rights, they remain in the hands of her guardian, Michael Schiavo.

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(Martinez reported from Florida; Kampert reported from Chicago; Chicago Tribune correspondent Peter Gorner contributed to this report.)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schiavo; starvation; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Aliska
I wonder if he tried to strangle her.<--- I think his biggest fear is that Terri will come to her senses and tell everyone "That Bastard choked me and tried to kill me".
That is THE ONLY reason he is trying this hard to shut her up. He has something to hide. Very similar case here in Dallas a few years back, Reverend Walker Railey choked his wife and nearly killed her but there was no way to prove it. He went to trial and was acquiited, not enough evidence. However his wife is in a "Permanent Vegetative State" at a hospice in Tyler Texas. He got off Scott free and married some young flooozie out in California.
121 posted on 10/24/2003 9:06:26 AM PDT by Delbert
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To: jwalsh07
"When did the Florida Legislature decide it couldn't trust its courts? The principle here is: Let a spouse make the decisions for their loved ones because they know them best."

"If you're not married, if you're gay, or a common-law wife or husband who've been together for a long time, if this law holds up, then your mom is going to make the decisions, not your partner. You have no legal rights. They're out the window."

As I understand it, without a living will, you have no say in the matter if you can't speak anymore. It is left to your loved ones and the state, and that includes parents, relatives and children as well as any interested parties. The law is clear, you need demonstrable proof you really decided to die, and absent your own testimony, you need a notarized document such as living will. How simple can you get?

No one wants to live in a vegetative state on tubes forever, but no one really knows if they will. But the mere fact that I might have some day said I wished someone would die is not the legal equivalent of killing them, including myself.

122 posted on 10/24/2003 9:06:43 AM PDT by Held_to_Ransom
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To: syriacus
I wonder if it is possible for the Schindler to appeal to Justice Antonin Scalia in Washington. I know that sometimes one can ask a single Supreme Court justice to intervene when a death sentence is pending. And we will be back to the point of another feeding tube removal -- if not this year, then sometimes in the future. Schiavo is not about to let his millions slip from his fingers after all HE's "been through."
123 posted on 10/24/2003 9:06:43 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
"That's basically what happened between Terri and Michael, and he's just determined to keep his promise," Felos said. "I think he's unable to live the rest of his life if he walked away knowing he let Terri down and was unable to keep his promise to her."

And when did he promise to deny her last rights in her faith, and when did he promise to deny her family the ability to see her? More importantly, what did she say when he promised her these things?

124 posted on 10/24/2003 9:14:35 AM PDT by Held_to_Ransom
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To: onyx; ambrose
Yup, it was me that brought that up. Nothing would be too good for Terri with her parents in charge and somebody else picking up the tab, every treatment would be performed, no matter whether it would be effective or not, all under the contempt power of the court.

About the only option he'd have to escape from that would be to change his name and leave the country.

125 posted on 10/24/2003 9:15:28 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Gelato
Felos said. "I think he's unable to live the rest of his life if he walked away knowing he let Terri down and was unable to keep his promise to her."

Well, then WHY did the scumbag get himself a mistress and impregnant her?? Isn't that a broken promise to his wedding vows??
What an effing waste of skin he is.......
126 posted on 10/24/2003 9:16:14 AM PDT by hunyb
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To: leila
I'm sorry for what was possibly a false alarm.

I can see now that the term schiavomarjory was a keyword somehow connected with the results webpage I got when I did that first search for schiavo.

It might have been placed in the html coding by default, to bring me back to the results webpage.

I know I had not entered the name "marjory' into any search box until I came across it...but maybe the website did that, automatically, in order to bring me back to the search page which listed Marjory Schiavo's company at the top.

127 posted on 10/24/2003 9:22:58 AM PDT by syriacus (D. Bushnell (Schiavo's lawyer) Priest's visit to Terri would disturb medical procedures going on.)
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To: AmericaUnited; Greybird
California might be OK with a climate of defamation, but the jurisdiction that FR posters and the owner should be very concerned about is Florida, where the ostensible plaintiffs live.

I'll add that much of what I've seen crossed a line from heated rhetoric and innuendo (embarrassingly lacking in legitimate factual knowledge) to specific allegations of wrongdoing, and also crossed a line when these allegations were used as a focal point at this site to foment pressure against the legislators and the governor of the Plaintiff's home state to take action deleterious to the rights of Michael Schiavo.

We won't even go into the threats of physical harm that I've seen on here.

128 posted on 10/24/2003 9:29:22 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: The Red Zone
Or you could divorce her and make her a ward of the state and you are out of there!
129 posted on 10/24/2003 9:33:12 AM PDT by rlferny
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To: MHGinTN
I believe you will find that Greta is into Scientology, and Scientology is deeply into the euthanasia movement.

I've noticed several possible links between this case and Scientology. For one thing Scientology's world headquarters are in Clearwater, and a good percentage of the city's population are members of the cult. Also, the fact that a pottasium imbalance was noted in Terri's condition raises some red flags. Many Scientology practices involve pottassium.

Also, one of the law firms which has represented the cult in the past has a Schiavo as one of the partners.

130 posted on 10/24/2003 9:54:15 AM PDT by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: syriacus
Yet another person involved in Florida real estate. James G. Felos Just down the street from George Felos, too.

Is James G. Felos a brother of George J. Felos?.....

DOUVIDAL REALTY CORP.
PRINCIPAL ADDRESS FARMINGDALE NY 11735 US
Changed 03/13/2001

Last Event
ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT Event Date Filed 10/04/2002
Registered Agent
Name & Address
*****FELOS, JAMES G.***** (Relation to George Felos?)
SUITE 200, ***380 MAIN STREET*** DUNEDIN FL 34698

Name Changed: 09/18/1985
Address Changed: 02/21/1989-
Officer/Director Detail
DOUNIAS, GEORGE
VIDALIS, REBELA
Their addresses are in NY.



George Felos's law firm

FELOS & FELOS, P.A.

PRINCIPAL ADDRESS
***595 MAIN STREET*** DUNEDIN FL 34698 US
Changed 02/08/2001
Date Filed 02/17/1995

Registered Agent
Name & Address
***FELOS, GEORGE J***


131 posted on 10/24/2003 9:55:49 AM PDT by syriacus (D. Bushnell (Schiavo's lawyer) Priest's visit to Terri would disturb medical procedures going on.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I was stunned to read a few sterling examples of the type of comments you address in #128 BEFORE I read #128. My God, some of these people are stark raving mad.
132 posted on 10/24/2003 9:56:02 AM PDT by onyx
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Very well stated!

Was not involved in these threads, except to read some of them and couldn't believe the comments that were made and how they were left to stand on the threads.

I will come right out and say it -- some of these threads and others have comments that should have been pulled without ANYONE hitting abuse. People can say the Mods have been too fast to pull the trigger but lately IMHO they have been to slow in certain instances that could put Jim and this site in jeopardy with remarks and innuendoes that have no basis in fact.

Freepers are allowing emotions to cloud their posting and their win at any cost mentality. If you post facts, you can never get in trouble. Post some of the statements I have seen and some Freepers won't be hiding behind a screen name for long. You don't go accuse someone of either attempting to commit a felony or have committed one unless you have the facts to back it up not just some idea in your own fertile mind of what you think is going to happen.

Some folks around here better take heed of your comments and pay closer attention to threads that are emotional and have Freepers that are going over the top in their posting!

My two cents!
133 posted on 10/24/2003 9:56:06 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
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To: PhiKapMom
You are right. We have at times gone forward with our accusations without proof. These folks are now public figures though. So can they make a libel charge stick against their detractors on the Internet?

Do you feel that Terri is safe with Schiavo still her "decisionmaker"?
134 posted on 10/24/2003 10:07:36 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Delbert
Yes, I forget about the Railey tragedy. There may or may not be a parallel here. Was there an investigation for possible spousal abuse when Terri collapsed? Apparently not, as it was not even suspected then by anyone. Now Bobby Schindler wonders if there was spousal abuse. There are reports that she has damaged neck bones that seem to indicate strangulation.

I guess Mrs. Railey's family could petition to remove her feeding tube too, but they have too much class to consider that option.

This case won't go away, but Schiavo has suffered defeat in a major battle. He has yet to lose the WAR.
135 posted on 10/24/2003 10:12:43 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Republic
Bump!
136 posted on 10/24/2003 10:24:33 AM PDT by auboy (Liberals believe in free speech… theirs not yours.)
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To: Theodore R.
I don't think there would be a relationship between the names Schiavo and Schieve. But....in Sarasota County Court Records there are a lot of entries for the surname - SCHIAVONE. It would almost appear that the Schiavo's shortened their name...dropping the N and E from the end.

In checking the Social Security Death Index, the SCHIAVO family seems to have come from Pennsylvania and New York, with a few from New Jersey and one from Massachusetts. Following is a list of likely deceased relatives of Michael Schiavo:

GIVEN NAME.......BIRTH.....DEATH...........PLACE......ISSUE

Alexander J......1919...10/31/1998.........Hudson,Fla....PA

Anthony..........1918...May 1983......Fort Myers,Fla.....NY

Anthony........1889...09/27/1988...Hudson,Fla............PA

Beneditto......1914...09/30/1995...Safety Harbor,Fla.....NY

Clara M........1932...07/02/1997...Seminole,Fla..........PA

Desanto........1925...March 1985...Lehigh Acres,Fla......MA

Evelina........1912...07/17/2003...Safety Harbor,Fla.....NY

Gemma..........1905...01/15/1997...Sarasota,Fla..........PA

Maianno........1920...05/05/2001...Spring Hill,Fla.......NY

William F......1931...04/15/2002...Seminole,Fla..........PA

The above list is ONLY the Schiavos that resided in or near Clearwater at the time of their death. I excluded those who lived on the east coast - Palm Beach, Miami, Boca raton, etc. The column labeled "issue" is where the Social Security Number was issued. Note that there isn't a Marjorie Schiavo on the list, and the most recent death is in July 2003. I think we can presume that Marjorie Schiavo is still alive and most likely living in Sarasota, Fla. at 2424 Terry Lane. But, who is she, and what is her relationship to Michael Schiavo?
137 posted on 10/24/2003 10:41:12 AM PDT by leila
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
foment pressure against the legislators and the governor of the Plaintiff's home state to take action deleterious to the rights of Michael Schiavo.

I hope you're not insinuating that Felos or Schiavo would take time off, from their efforts to starve Terri, in order to sue people.

They are doing a determined job of sticking to their main task.

They haven't even taken a breather to sue the legislators or the Schindlers or the nurses that are speaking out against Mike.

Now that's dedication.

138 posted on 10/24/2003 10:44:30 AM PDT by syriacus (D. Bushnell (Schiavo's lawyer) Priest's visit to Terri would disturb medical procedures going on.)
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To: leila
So the Schiavo ethnicity is Italian?
139 posted on 10/24/2003 10:54:17 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Delbert
I wonder still if the Raileys ever suspected their former son-in-law of such brutal behavior.

I also wonder when the Schindlers first figured out about the dark side of Schiavo. Though Mr. Schindler said a few weeks ago that he thought Schiavo had strangled Terri in 1990, the family had been very reserved in its personal comments against him. Robert Schindler, Jr., in his television appearances still declines to engage in name calling against Schiavo.
140 posted on 10/24/2003 10:58:20 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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