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Gibson's 'Passion of Christ' Has Distributor, Debuts Ash Wednesday
NewsMax ^ | 10/23/03 | Limbacher

Posted on 10/23/2003 2:27:37 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

The left-wing thought police fought him every step of the way. The major studios refused to touch his new project even though he has made Tinseltown hundreds of millions of dollars. But Mel Gibson's "The Passion of Christ" will open in America on Feb. 25, Ash Wednesday.

The Oscar-winning director and Newmarket Films announced a deal today to distribute the movie, about the last hours of the life of Jesus Christ.

"The Passion of Christ" stars James Caviezel as Jesus and Monica Bellucci as Mary Magdalene. The dialogue is in Latin, Hebrew and Aramaic with English subtitles.

Newmarket, an independent distribution company, specializes in publicizing and securing theaters for such excellent movies as "Memento," "Real Women Have Curves" and "Whale Rider."

Gibson will distribute the film himself through his Icon Productions in the United Kingdom and Australia, the Associated Press reported.

And that high-pitched shriek you hear is the New York Times' Frank Rich tossing his latest temper tantrum.


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To: Shethink13
I'm pretty sure Jesus wasn't too involved with international commerce....

Wonder what Jesus would've done with a web site pitching his custom-made Cedars of Lebanon tables and chairs?

21 posted on 10/23/2003 4:02:32 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Shethink13
I'm pretty sure Jesus wasn't too involved with international commerce that He would have to speak a lot of Greek. But even if He did, I highly doubt whether He spoke much Greek in the last hours of his life

So Jesus' words in the original gospels are not direct quotes but translations?

22 posted on 10/23/2003 4:05:35 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: george wythe
So Jesus' words in the original gospels are not direct quotes but translations?

Are you genuinely confused are you being obtuse? Just because someone RECORDS a direct quote in a certain language does not mean that is the language the quote was actually spoken in.

23 posted on 10/23/2003 4:29:16 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: gfmsl
Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic AND Hebrew!
24 posted on 10/23/2003 4:35:24 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs: 7-0 baby)
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To: george wythe
So Jesus' words in the original gospels are not direct quotes but translations?

Yes, Jesus spoke mostly Aramaic. The Gospel writers later wrote them in Greek for the widest audience.

25 posted on 10/23/2003 4:55:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: theFIRMbss
I've got religion, NOW. ;^)
26 posted on 10/23/2003 6:09:41 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I am very happy that Gibson has overcome the leftist thought police and found a distributor, but it should have been a much bigger distributor. FOX generally distributes the films of Gibson's company, ICON, but phony conservative Rupert Murdoch was too cowardly to distribute "The Passion."

I will certainly go see this film, and hope all other Christians do as well.

27 posted on 10/23/2003 7:02:37 PM PDT by Thorin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I have a feeling Newmarket is going to make ... um ... a few dollars on this deal. Too bad for the big boys....
28 posted on 10/23/2003 7:05:15 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Thorin
I will certainly go see this film, and hope all other Christians do as well.

I'm still on the fence, currently leaning towards missing it. (Who knows if it'll even show up in Iowa?) For now, I'm thinking if the Lord wanted us to see all the 'realism' Gibson has been promising, He would have timed everything such that the events would have been at least photographed for posterity.

Instead, I'm satisfied He intended that each one of us meditate on the Scriptural accounts, and see it in our mind's eye under the tutelage of the Holy Spirit.

29 posted on 10/23/2003 8:04:30 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. WORDS MEAN THINGS)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

30 posted on 10/23/2003 8:04:58 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: george wythe
Re: The latin in the film of of you have been carping about....
shouldn't it be obvious that the ROMAN SOLDIERS spoke latin? [duh!] And I am a bit surprised that people think the daily utterances of Jesus were in Greek...."Alpha and Omega" not withstanding. Palestine was a crossroads in those days of many cultures, but as others have written here it is well know, even in the deep south that Jesus spoke Aramaic.
31 posted on 10/24/2003 8:58:07 AM PDT by karen999
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To: Shethink13
I believe Aramaic has become a dead language, there would be no translators. If not, where is it now spoken?
32 posted on 10/24/2003 9:02:13 AM PDT by madison10
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To: george wythe
They are direct quotes in a different language. Doesn't mean Jesus didn't say those words. There are thousands of Bible translations are you assuming that they are not all correct because they are in various languages?
33 posted on 10/24/2003 9:10:57 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The dialogue is in Latin, Hebrew and Aramaic with English subtitles.

Thought there were going to be no subtiles..typo? Either way I will be in line (there will be a line) to see this movie.

34 posted on 10/24/2003 9:14:34 AM PDT by Blue Scourge (There are alot of loosers in this world...and alot of Liberals; coincidence....I think not.)
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To: Shethink13
You did not answer my question:
So Jesus' words in the original gospels are not direct quotes but translations?

35 posted on 10/24/2003 12:55:05 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: madison10
There are thousands of Bible translations are you assuming that they are not all correct because they are in various languages?

It's impossible for all the translations to be correct, especially if they contradict each other.

That's why Christian ministers go back to the original Greek to understand those translations fully.

That's why so many Christian ministers take Greek [classical and koine] as part of their training. That's also the reason so many Christians, both ministers and laymen, use Greek interlinears, lexicons and dictionaries.

Translations are not 100% accurate representations of the original statements. For instance, I frequently see the common mistake of translation the English word "cult" as "sect" and viceversa.

The English expression: Scientology is a cult, is frequently translation into French as: Scientologie est une sect.

The opposite is also true. The French expression: La religion baptiste est une sect, is often translated as: The Baptist religion is a cult.

36 posted on 10/24/2003 1:11:49 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: karen999
Re: The latin in the film of of you have been carping about.... shouldn't it be obvious that the ROMAN SOLDIERS spoke latin? [duh!]

I'm sorry if my post gave you the wrong impression.

I'm not carping about the use of Latin. I'm just raising the question of why Greek is being avoided in this movie.

The Bible tells us that the INRI inscription was written in Latin, Aramaic and Greek (St John 19:20) Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that Greek was spoken by many members of the crowd, otherwise, why would the occupying power post a sign in Greek or Aramaic instead of solely the official Roman Empire language?

Furthermore, many new Testament writers had humble beginnings such as fishermen; nevertheless, they wrote in Greek their recollections of Jesus deeds and words. Their readership was not the proud and educated, but other humble people like them.

It seems rather obvious that Greek was the lingua franca of the time.

Finally, the Bible also states that the Greeks conquered Palestine after Alexander the Great defeated the Medo-Persians, and that the Greeks imposed their culture upon the Jews in Israel for several centuries. The Bible mentions that the strong Hellenization created a strong resentment among Jews, cultiminating in the Maccabee rebelion after the temple desecration. (I Maccabees 1).

By Jesus time, the Romans were a relatively new occupying power over Palestine, and the Roman language had not taken deep roots in the region. Therefore, Greek was commonly spoken by Jews of all backgrounds, even fisherment and peasants.

My question is: Why is it that no Greek at all is spoken in this film?

If there is an historical reason for it, I'm happy to know.

I was hoping that someone who has read about this film background knew the answer; I'm might be overlooking some historical fact.

37 posted on 10/24/2003 1:34:32 PM PDT by george wythe
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