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Jeb Bush Detractors can leave their apologies here.

Posted on 10/21/2003 2:47:00 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

If the moderators will allow this thread, I would like to hear from those with courage enough to admit their mistakes in attacking Governor Jeb Bush, "suggesting that blood would be on his hands", calling him a murderer and worse with no evidence to back up their assaults.

While today is a great day, I would like to know how many people are willing to stand up and admit their wrongs?

Some may think it unnecessary, but I think a pound of flesh is in order, in a single place were we can all see and read about it. Please remove if this is out of bounds, but in all the congradulatory threads, I dont see too many folks willing to suck it up.


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KEYWORDS: jebbush; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Pukin Dog
this did not show how good jeb bush was...it did show how amazing the american people are...think about it...strangers,who don't know terri or each other formed a great force of power that FORCED the legislature and jeb to do something..these americans are what makes america great..not the political hacks who have to be forced to do the right thing.....
101 posted on 10/21/2003 5:00:31 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: Lanza
Sounds good to me. Any suggestions as to how we can get Terri away from Michael and in the custody and decision making by her mother, father, brother and sister???? Must be somebody we can contact.
102 posted on 10/21/2003 5:00:56 PM PDT by Deltaforceeoo7
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To: Lanza
Sounds good to me. Any suggestions as to how we can get Terri away from Michael and in the custody and decision making by her mother, father, brother and sister???? Must be somebody we can contact.
103 posted on 10/21/2003 5:02:04 PM PDT by Deltaforceeoo7
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To: Lanza
Sounds good to me. Any suggestions as to how we can get Terri away from Michael and in the custody and decision making by her mother, father, brother and sister???? Must be somebody we can contact.
104 posted on 10/21/2003 5:02:15 PM PDT by Deltaforceeoo7
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To: Pukin Dog
That is cowgirl, and I uderstand your point. I understand your motivations , Pukin Dog. I agree with you on some issues.

There are some here who continue to attack us, and have for days now with nasty names, insisting that we are nothing more than "emotional idots and boneheads". Some of these people show upon every thread discouraging others from doing anything , because they said we were just plain stupid, emotional and ignorant for doing anything, for following through on any idea to put pressure on the powers that be.

If it were as simple as asking the representatives Florida to please take a look at this case when you get a chance, as some here advocated, nothing would have gotten done.

105 posted on 10/21/2003 5:02:59 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: Leatherneck_MT
I said I was angry with him and I said he had no moral courage.

I stand by that allegation. What he did was go to committee to get the right thing done. Congratulations to him, he has spread the blame about and got the job done.

I'm glad it's done, I'm glad he signed it and I'm glad that Terri will have the feeding tube reinserted.

Being a leader means making the hard choices and doing what is unpopular yourself when everyone else (including the Law) demands you lay off.

He could have sent troopers in 4 days ago and had her removed. He could have done a number of things, none of them "legal". This was not a legal decision, this was a MORAL Decision and he lacked the moral courage to act.

I stand by my comments and I will not apologize.

Those in the executive branch cannot bully their way through laws, courts and the legal system. It doesn't work that way. You're being stiff necked. ;)

106 posted on 10/21/2003 5:03:01 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Pukin Dog
For those that don't find this courageous .. realize that there will be legal challenges to this and that the separation of powers will be tested. Gov. Bush and the legislature have 'called out' the liberal judiciary in Florida, and exerted their right to protect life. This fight is far from over. Pray for Terri's recovery and response to therapy, and soon, as this battle is one 'we' might lose in the courts when all is said and done.
107 posted on 10/21/2003 5:03:14 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
So I suppose every time you find something morally distasteful you go in with guns blazing? Do you walk the walk?
108 posted on 10/21/2003 5:04:19 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Pukin Dog
I did not know the law of Florida, and I was willing to forgive Bush; however, I was swayed (as in, like a hurricane) by the Freepers who were outraged that he did nothing).

I assumed that he couldn't do anything.

but then, you all know what they say about "assume"... it makes an... a** out of U and Me.

Anyway, thank you Jeb Bush, for doing the right thing!
109 posted on 10/21/2003 5:04:25 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: Pukin Dog
WOOHOO!

What a great day!

Seems Jeb Bush COULD do something about it after all, despite arguments to the contrary.

And he did!

(Thank the Good Lord and Jeb Bush and all the congressmen who did what was their duty).

SD
110 posted on 10/21/2003 5:06:32 PM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: Pukin Dog
This thread is about NOT letting bygones be bygones. This thread IS about bearing a grudge.

This thread is about impugning the motives of those who desperately wanted to save a life, to stop a possible murder.

Would you rather that no one raise cain over the appearant lack of needed timely action by any one YOU consider above reproach? To shut off honest complaint? If so, you have opened the doors wide to future calamities.

This thread says "Shut up!" -- "Shut up next time!". Bad advice. Well, no one is beyond the benefit of an honest critcism. No one is perfect. Poorly considered this is a rude thread.

The apology, sir, is yours to offer for putting this calumny forward. Yours alone.

111 posted on 10/21/2003 5:07:13 PM PDT by bvw
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Re my previous post--

I seriously doubted that Jeb Bush could do anything. As I've said before, I've had personal experience in family law, with a father who married someone who then had complete control over his medical affairs.

Anyway...all I know if I were Terri's parents, I would have been trying to get something done...

Hey... I guess Jeb knows which side his bread is buttered on. ;) :)
112 posted on 10/21/2003 5:08:19 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: ambrose

That certainly sounds like seminar trollish behavior, leftists looking for any excuse to bash the President on FreeRepublic (under the cover of being Uber-Conservatives, of course).

113 posted on 10/21/2003 5:12:36 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: madison10
This was not a legal decision, this was a MORAL Decision and he lacked the moral courage to act.

And if Bush had stormed in, and been stopped by a legal injunction (very likely), the Legislature would never have passed this bill.

Why?

What sane politician is going to follow a lawbreaker?

You want a dictator, not a governor.

114 posted on 10/21/2003 5:12:39 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: bvw
Poorly considered this is a rude thread.

Only to those with egg on their faces, and who want to leave it there.

115 posted on 10/21/2003 5:14:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: sinkspur
No and I will not apologize for what I said about him. Remember I was very supportive of him the first few days.

I was not a rabid dog at all. I let him know, if he was looking, that the conservatives were losing faith in him and demanded that he do something. Supported by hundreds of thousands of other conservatives, according to polls. and reactions from the politicans with an (R) after their name.

I never called him names, I just lost faith in him. So sue me for that. I have nothing to apologize for. I told you exactly what would happen last week. And by the way I was right. You should be the one who apologizes here, not me.

not only were you wrong, you have tried to obstruct people from speaking out and taking action, and you have been very crass in your name calling and degradation of others on those threads.

116 posted on 10/21/2003 5:14:56 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: bvw
This thread is about those who impugned the motives of the Governor, and assumed that he didn't care, some even calling into question his faith, dedication, position, and salvation .. even amidst almost daily statements and movements by his legal team who sought every available consitutional avenue to prevent Terri's death. Even now some are here saying he should have stormed the hospice as Clinton/Reno authorized in the Elian Gonzalez affair.

I applaud the Governor for fighting this properly, and it is a fight that he may still lose. But making it a 2-1 battle in the 'separation of powers' fight gives him a much better chance of winning.

117 posted on 10/21/2003 5:15:09 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: bvw; Pukin Dog
"Would you rather that no one raise cain over the appearant lack of needed timely action by any one YOU consider above reproach? To shut off honest complaint?"

I don't think that what this thread is about, at all.

Threads like these are the lifeblood of FR! Here, we can have honest debate about issues. We may not agree--and thank God we don't--but it's only because people devoted to Terri's right to life kept raising the issue that apparently, she may yet live (I haven't even had time to figure out what has happened, I just clicked on this thread as soon as I got here).

No, it's thanks to those of you who would not let Terri go that Jeb Bush did something.

Really, sometimes, so freepers are cynics. I guess I was one of them.

I pray for Terri's recovery. I know if I were her mother, well, I'd plaster myself over her body and wouldn't let the SOB near her, or any nurse either...

like I said, I have had personal experience in this area, with the death of my mother.

Anyway, let's all try to imagine "walking a mile in someone else's shoes"... I think the civility level might increase a hundred fold.
118 posted on 10/21/2003 5:16:05 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: madison10
Pay no mind to the pen of sinkspur . He's convinced himself his doesn't stink.
119 posted on 10/21/2003 5:16:58 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
not only were you wrong, you have tried to obstruct people from speaking out and taking action, and you have been very crass in your name calling and degradation of others on those threads.

Stop playing the victim. You trashed Bush for not acting, and now he's acted. Within the law.

When cool heads prevail, things get done. Ranting and raving accomplishes NOTHING.

120 posted on 10/21/2003 5:17:15 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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