[JohnHuang2]

Tuesday, October 21, 2003

Quote of the Day by dirtboy

[Lion Den Dan]

Holy smokes. I want to reply to this idiocy but where to begin. Teaching math without a calculator is how it should be done. Teaching gun safety without a gun is not doable. School districts have done nothing to be held in any but the highest contempt so there is no argument in that statement. That kids know how to shoot a gun from TV is a bunch of hogwash. TV is the source of most negligent shootings in this country. This is so scrambled.

[goldstategop]

Liberal idiots. How can you teach a firearms instruction course without a gun? That's like trying to teach driving skills to students without a car!

[glock rocks]

zero-tolerance = intolerance n. see: prejudice, bigotry, fanaticism, narrow-mindedness

[The Other Harry]

"It's like teaching a math class without a calculator,"

That's a lousy analogy. Math is better taught without a calculator.

[Qwinn]

"Whatever you can do to restrict, restrict."

This should be the Democratic Party motto.

Qwinn

[556x45]

Public schools are places of indoctrination rather than education. There's no room for discussion or debate or critical thought. Views other than The Company Line are quashed/stamped out/etc most brutally. This prepares the students to be slaves.

What the school board failed to understand is that school zones are anything but safe. Criminals (by defn) aren't bound legally or morally to anyones set of rules. They'll pillage where/whenever it suits them even if that place is a school zone and time is during school hours.

On a totally refreshing note...there's a private high school in town where I help out from time to time. Just a couple weeks ago I helped run a shoot for that school at the local range. It sure was great to see the kids get off the bus w/ their own rifles/shotguns. Everybody had a great time and learned alot. Learning how to shoot and asfely handle guns is part of a well rounded education.

[Maelstrom]

It's not like teaching math without a calculator.

It's like teaching math without a PLUS sign.

[Minnesoootan]

I left publik skool in '82.


We had "gun safety" on skool grounds and actually used our lockers to store our guns,we had a small caliber range in the basement for qualifying.

Once the PC hit town,they obeyed,but everyone got together and rebuilt the gun range outside of town....much better environment.

These people should quit whining and just take the class off campus.

[Joe Brower]

[scan58]

"We're not teaching shooting. We're teaching safe handling of firearms."

What the heck are they doing handling them if they don't intend to use them?

[Quick1]

It's like teaching a math class without a calculator," Going slightly off the topic here, but teaching math without a calculator is how it should be done. The only time I needed a calculator in my years and years of math classes (including college courses) is when an instructor designed an exam to make it that you needed a calculator to find out what 2.245732 * 423.57 was. (Of course, you can find the result of that by hand, but not in the time it takes for a one hour exam...)

[Petronski]

"It's like teaching a math class without a calculator..."

No it's not. It's not like that at all. Millions and millions of people learned to do math in their heads before the calculator was invented.

This is more like trying to teach auto shop without tools or cars.

[Zuben Elgenubi]

I grew up in rural New York state, born 1950. When I was in Junior High and High School, student hunters were allowed to bring their shotguns to school so they could hunt after school was let out. Opening season would find a dozen or so shotguns (unloaded) lined up in the front of homeroom.

We repected the system and feared the consequences of our fathers if we violated common sense rules. The Fear of Dad was enough to keep the boys in line.

[Liberal Classic]

It is not simply idiotic or accidental or a silly example of so-called 'zero tolerance.' This is a deliberate policy to indoctrinate children with an irrational fear of firearms. Have you ever noticed when ever a gun or knife is involved the reaction is so out of proportion with the happenstance that it seems absurd? It is not that people get carried away with the rules or over-react. The over-reaction is the method of zero tolerance and the purpose is to engender fear. I'll take off my tinfoil hat now.

[Teacher317]

"There needs to be some safety zones," Sue Brown, a school board member, told the paper. "And I think a school district and a school building should be held in higher regard than it is. It's a difficult climate; it's a different day and age. Whatever you can do to restrict, restrict."

Spoken like a true subject.

Actually, does anyone else picture a woman who was a slow and uncoordinated child, who cried during games of tag because she couldn't get to "home base"?

I wonder where the safety zones are in war, in business, in relationships, and in conflicts with government officials.

[Ghengis]

One of the best teachers I had was a Jr. High history teacher. Once he brought his entire antique and replica firearms collection to class to illustrate the history of the use of firearms in the world and the USA. He carefully supervised as each student examined and handled all sorts of firearms that were used back to the matchlock days. I also had a High School history teacher who was a reenactor of medieval knights. He brought his armor, lance, sword, spear and crossbow to class for the kids to check out.

Both of these guys would be fired today by ignorant administrators.

[paul51]

"There is not a kid in this country that doesn't know how to shoot a gun." "They've seen it on TV and in movies thousands and thousands of times

Why are wasting so much money on schools. Kids should also be able to learn how to read and write and do math by watching on TV. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy every kid a tv?

[ZULU]

Most school boards operate hand in glove with the gangsters in the NEA. They are, for the most part, ignorant, witless, politically correct, craven, politican wannabes.

Non-thinking like this is typical of the NEA and School Boards nationwide - like the case of kids who were expelled for playing cops and robbers in the schoolyard and using their hands like guns.