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10/18/03 -- Jeb's Emails to FR poster, summer, today, re: Terri. (And, a Message to Michael Shiavo)
10/18/03 | summer's emails with Gov Bush

Posted on 10/18/2003 5:15:50 PM PDT by summer

Note to FR: I am posting here an email conversation I had today with Gov Bush about Terri, and yes, he knows I am posting it here on FR.

In my reply #1, located below this post of Gov Bush’s email, I have posted a message from me to Terri’s husband. And, no, I did not discuss with anyone my idea here to write to Terri’s husband. No one suggested it to me. Nor did I discuss it with anyone at all.

In my next reply, reply #2 below, I hope to post a message to my friends here on FR. And, while I would like to respond to each reply that may be posted on this thread, I can not. Due to a pressing personal matter, I will not be able to respond tonight.

However, my thoughts and prayers and hopes remain with each person involved in this matter.

God bless.

summer


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----- Original Message -----
From: [summer]
To: Jeb Bush
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: …question for you…

Gov Bush,

Thank you, and I have no doubt you would move Heaven and Earth for her if you could.

Sincerely, [summer]

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeb Bush
To: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: …question for you…

I cannot offer much hope. I am sickened by this situtation and pray for her family. We have looked at every angle, every legal possibility and will continue to do so. It is clear that we need to make living wills the norm for families in our state. Too few people use them.

Jeb


-----Original Message-----
From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:38 PM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject: Re: …question for you…

Thank you for your response, Gov Bush. Before I post this, can you provide any measure of hope for a legal way to preserve this woman's life? To think that all her parents want to do is care for her and not see her starve to death, is, I think, not asking for a lot in this world. My own parents would feel the same way about me, I am sure[…]

[summer]

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeb Bush
To: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: …question for you…

this was tried in the courts I believe and was rejected.

jeb

-----Original Message-----


From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:03 PM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject: …question for you…

Is there a way you can utilize Family Law as it pertains to abandonment of a spouse -- on the grounds of lack of sexual contact -- so that the path can be cleared for him to be legally removed by the state or her family as a husband?

-----Original Message-----

From: Jeb Bush
Sent: Oct 18, 2003 1:47 PM
To: [summer]
Subject: …question for you…

Unfortunately, I cannot issue an executive order when there is a court order upheld at every level in the judiciary. Mr. Shiavo is the legal guardian and I can't override that fact. I wish I could but I have no legal authority to do so.

Jeb

-----Original Message-----

From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject: …question for you…

Can you use your authority to issue an Executive Order, to place her in a different hospice that has no connection to her husband, as a temporary stop measure to [get] this woman back on feeding -- so that you have the time necessary to review whatever other options may exist for you? This current situation with her removed from the tubes will result in an irrevocable situation.


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To: Theodore R.
"I am pained by this case, but also pained by the hysterical posters who have attacked Gov. Bush"

You sir, are a hypocrite.

You aren't pained. In fact in reading your pasts postings, I see you have aided and abetted the rally against Jeb Bush.

I would refer you to THIS to refresh your memory.

181 posted on 10/19/2003 6:57:43 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: summer
Thanks for the posting this, Summer and for the heads up. Too bad Jeb Bush's hands are tied ...


182 posted on 10/19/2003 6:57:58 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: MSCASEY
>>Why doesn't Jeb Bush go to the hospice himself and make sure that if she is able to have water that she gets it?

He should definitely do that. This will hurt his political career if he does not do more.

183 posted on 10/19/2003 7:06:42 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: MSCASEY
Jeb is to see that the laws are faithfully executed:


The 2003 Florida Statutes

Title IV
EXECUTIVE BRANCH Chapter 16
ATTORNEY GENERAL View Entire Chapter

16.56 Office of Statewide Prosecution.--

(1) There is created in the Department of Legal Affairs an Office of Statewide Prosecution. The office shall be a separate "budget entity" as that term is defined in chapter 216. The office may:

(a) Investigate and prosecute the offenses of:

1. Bribery, burglary, criminal usury, extortion, gambling, kidnapping, larceny, murder, prostitution, perjury, robbery, carjacking, and home-invasion robbery;

2. Any crime involving narcotic or other dangerous drugs;

3. Any violation of the provisions of the Florida RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization) Act, including any offense listed in the definition of racketeering activity in s. 895.02(1)(a), providing such listed offense is investigated in connection with a violation of s. 895.03 and is charged in a separate count of an information or indictment containing a count charging a violation of s. 895.03, the prosecution of which listed offense may continue independently if the prosecution of the violation of s. 895.03 is terminated for any reason;

4. Any violation of the provisions of the Florida Anti-Fencing Act;

5. Any violation of the provisions of the Florida Antitrust Act of 1980, as amended;

6. Any crime involving, or resulting in, fraud or deceit upon any person;

7. Any violation of s. 847.0135, relating to computer pornography and child exploitation prevention, or any offense related to a violation of s. 847.0135;

8. Any violation of the provisions of chapter 815; or

9. Any criminal violation of part I of chapter 499;

or any attempt, solicitation, or conspiracy to commit any of the crimes specifically enumerated above. The office shall have such power only when any such offense is occurring, or has occurred, in two or more judicial circuits as part of a related transaction, or when any such offense is connected with an organized criminal conspiracy affecting two or more judicial circuits.

(b) Upon request, cooperate with and assist state attorneys and state and local law enforcement officials in their efforts against organized crimes.

(c) Request and receive from any department, division, board, bureau, commission, or other agency of the state, or of any political subdivision thereof, cooperation and assistance in the performance of its duties.

(2) The Attorney General shall appoint a statewide prosecutor from not less than three persons nominated by the judicial nominating commission for the Supreme Court. The statewide prosecutor shall be in charge of the Office of Statewide Prosecution for a term of 4 years to run concurrently with the term of the appointing official. The statewide prosecutor shall be an elector of the state, shall have been a member of The Florida Bar for the preceding 5 years, and shall devote full time to the duties of statewide prosecutor and not engage in the private practice of law. The Attorney General may remove the statewide prosecutor prior to the end of his or her term. A vacancy in the position of statewide prosecutor shall be filled within 60 days. During the period of any vacancy, the Attorney General shall exercise all the powers and perform all the duties of the statewide prosecutor. A person appointed statewide prosecutor is prohibited from running for or accepting appointment to any state office for a period of 2 years following vacation of office. The statewide prosecutor shall on March 1 of each year report in writing to the Governor and the Attorney General on the activities of the office for the preceding year and on the goals and objectives for the next year.

(3) The statewide prosecutor may conduct hearings at any place in the state; summon and examine witnesses; require the production of physical evidence; sign informations, indictments, and other official documents; confer immunity; move the court to reduce the sentence of a person convicted of drug trafficking who provides substantial assistance; attend to and serve as the legal adviser to the statewide grand jury; and exercise such other powers as by law are granted to state attorneys. The statewide prosecutor may designate one or more assistants to exercise any such powers.

(4) It is the intent of the Legislature that in carrying out the duties of this office, the statewide prosecutor shall, whenever feasible, use sworn investigators employed by the Department of Law Enforcement, and may request the assistance, where appropriate, of sworn investigators employed by other law enforcement agencies.

History.--ss. 1, 9, ch. 85-179; s. 1, ch. 90-12; s. 1, ch. 92-108; s. 4, ch. 93-212; s. 51, ch. 95-147; s. 5, ch. 95-427; s. 8, ch. 96-252; s. 6, ch. 96-260; s. 69, ch. 96-388; s. 3, ch. 97-78; s. 12, ch. 2001-54; s. 30, ch. 2003-155.


http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0016/SEC56.HTM&Title=->2003->Ch0016->Section%2056



184 posted on 10/19/2003 7:14:17 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: onyx
>>Now if everyone would only pay attention to your post the unwarranted Jeb-bashing would cease!

Suggesting ways Bush can legally intervene in this case is not "Bush bashing." Expressing disappointment in his failure to stop an execution of a disabled woman by starvation and dehydration is not "Bush bashing." A Florida citizen claiming they will not vote for Jeb Bush for anything in future because of lack of action on this case is not "Bush bashing."

Calling him names would be Bush bashing but I have seen very little of that in the last few days.

It's my feeling that if Terri dies the real "Bush bashing" will commence. So those who would defend his actions or lack of them to intervene legally in Terri's case should prepare.

Of course if he does intervene in the next day or two all this will be moot.





185 posted on 10/19/2003 7:14:18 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: G.Mason
Another poster wrote: "I am pained by this case, but also pained by the hysterical posters who have attacked Gov. Bush"

I did not write the above post. Someone else did, and I was commenting on that. There must be some confusion when you call me a hypocrite for defending Terri's right to live. Either that, or we are on totally different wave lengths here.

If hypocrisy would save Terri's right to life, then I would glady be a "hypocrite" in your eyes.
186 posted on 10/19/2003 7:20:47 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Ethan_Allen
Re #184


1. Bribery, burglary, criminal usury, extortion, gambling, kidnapping, larceny, murder, prostitution, perjury, robbery, carjacking, and home-invasion robbery;

2. Any crime involving narcotic or other dangerous drugs;
[ nurse testified that Schiavo administered insulin on two seperate occasions to Terri causing her to go into shock. Terri is not diabetic. ]

6. Any crime involving, or resulting in, fraud or deceit upon any person;

excerpt:


Joni Eareckson Tada joins
vigil for Terri Schiavo
Judge rejects parents' plea, says brain-disabled woman must begin starvation tomorrow

Posted: October 14, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Sarah Foster
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com





"...Specifically, the Schindlers' attorneys, Pat Anderson and co-counsel Ferrara, brought a "1983 argument" – so-called from its section number in Title 42 of the U.S. Code dealing with civil rights.

Section 1983 – "Civil action for deprivation of rights" – makes anyone, including state and local officials, that deprive "any citizen of the United States" of "any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws," liable for their actions to the party they've injured.

Terri Schindler-Schiavo before her disability.

That Terri never had an attorney representing her interests in four years of court proceedings, seemed one of many obvious violations of her right to due process.

The fact that she received no therapy or rehabilitation in 10 years – coupled with Judge Greer's strict prohibition against any therapy or even testing – violated not only Florida guardianship law but the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990.

There was also the matter of the draining of Terri's trust fund – with Greer's full approval – which fell from $700,000 down to nearly nothing in just four years to pay the legal expenses of a husband who wanted her life ended.

Lazzara appeared interested in the issues. He asked for the official transcript of the Sept. 17 hearing, where Greer refused to protect Terri's interests.

According to Anderson in a filing, when the Schindlers in their petition for therapy for their daughter reminded Greer that an incapacitated ward like Terri has a right to essential services and rehabilitation and that it is the duty of a judge in a guardianship proceeding to protect those rights and to prevent any harm being done by a guardian – Greer declared from the bench that if he acted on Terri's behalf in this regard, Schiavo would move for his disqualification on grounds of "bias."

Lazzara also asked for part of the court transcript from a medical malpractice trial in Nov. 1992, when Schiavo sued Terri's doctors for not having diagnosed her physical condition. He claimed it was the likelihood that she was bulimic that led to her collapse, a condition her doctors should have caught.

Schiavo told the six-member jury that he needed money for his wife's future care. He said he was studying to be a nurse "because I enjoy it and I want to learn more about how to take care of Terri."

When asked by his lawyer how he felt about being married to Terri at that point in time, he answered: "I feel wonderful. She's my life and I wouldn't trade her for the world. I believe in my wedding vows."



Michael Schiavo (Photo: WFLA-TV)

Asked to explain further, he said, "I believe in the vows I took with my wife, through sickness, in health, for richer or poor. I married my wife because I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. I'm going to do that."

He did not testify that Terri had, years before, told him she wouldn't want to be fed or kept alive "by artificial means." That claim came later.

Following the money

The jury responded to his protestations of love and awarded $1.2 million to Terri for her medical and nursing expenses and $630,000 to Schiavo for loss of spouse. She also received a further $250,000 settlement in a case filed on her behalf against another doctor. After the attorneys received their cut, Terri was left with $700,000 and Schiavo with $300,000. Her share of the settlement was placed in a trust fund and invested in blue chip stocks, U.S. Treasury bonds and a money market account. It was to be managed by a bank and guarded by the court. In April 1993 her assets were valued at $776,254.

Her trust fund remained relatively intact until 1997, when Schiavo hired Felos and others began – with court approval – to dip into Terri's trust fund. Most of it went for legal costs.

According to the St. Petersburg Times, which investigated the matter in June 2001, by April 1998, her money was down to $713,825.

At Schiavo's request, Greer ordered all financial billings sealed, but payments are public record. The SP Times estimated that almost half the trust fund was gone, with only $350,000 remaining.

Greer later approved a payment of $45,007 to Felos, covering a five-month period ending February 2002. Including that payment, Felos had by February 2002, billed for $352,211 from Terri's fund. Other lawyers, too, helped drain the account – in particular, Deborah Bushnell, who received just under $50,000 between September 1993 and September 2001.

It's not certain how much of the money intended for Terri's rehabilitation remains. Felos told the Philadelphia Intelligencer that a few months ago only $50,000 was left. He said the money ran out last July and he hasn't been paid since. Terri's medical care at the Woodside Facility is now PAID FOR WITH FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS THROUGH MEDICAID, he said.

Court records show Felos' fees came to about $400,000, according to the Philadelphia Intelligencer....."


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35055




The 2003 Florida Statutes

CHAPTER 16

ATTORNEY GENERAL

16.01 Residence, office, and duties of Attorney General.

16.015 Legal services; Department of Legal Affairs, other counsel.

16.016 Payment of per diem, mileage, and other expense.

16.02 Appointment of person to act in case of disability of Attorney General.

16.061 Proposed constitutional revisions or amendments.

16.07 Fee for defending offender prohibited.

16.08 Superintendence and direction of state attorneys.

16.09 Regulations as to the reports of state attorneys.

16.10 Receipt of Supreme Court reports for office.

16.101 Supreme Court reporter.

16.52 Participation in preserving constitutional integrity of state.

16.53 Legal Affairs Revolving Trust Fund.

16.535 Legal Services Trust Fund.

16.54 Florida Crime Prevention Training Institute; revolving trust fund.

16.555 Crime Stoppers Trust Fund; rulemaking.

16.556 Crime Stoppers Trust Fund.

16.56 Office of Statewide Prosecution.

16.57 Office of Civil Rights.

16.58 Florida Legal Resource Center.

16.59 Medicaid fraud control.

16.60 Public records mediation program within the Office of the Attorney General; creation; duties.

16.01 Residence, office, and duties of Attorney General.--The Attorney General:

(1) Shall reside at the seat of government and shall keep his or her office in the capitol.

(2) Shall perform the duties prescribed by the Constitution of this state and also perform such other duties appropriate to his or her office as may from time to time be required of the Attorney General by law or by resolution of the Legislature.

(3) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, shall, on the written requisition of the Governor, a member of the Cabinet, the head of a department in the executive branch of state government, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the President of the Senate, the Minority Leader of the House of Representatives, or the Minority Leader of the Senate, and may, upon the written requisition of a member of the Legislature, other state officer, or officer of a county, municipality, other unit of local government, or political subdivision, give an official opinion and legal advice in writing on any question of law relating to the official duties of the requesting officer.

(4) Shall appear in and attend to, in behalf of the state, all suits or prosecutions, civil or criminal or in equity, in which the state may be a party, or in anywise interested, in the Supreme Court and district courts of appeal of this state.

(5) Shall appear in and attend to such suits or prosecutions in any other of the courts of this state or in any courts of any other state or of the United States. This subsection is not intended to authorize the joinder of the Attorney General as a party in such suits or prosecutions.

(6) Shall act as co-counsel of record in capital collateral proceedings.

(7) Shall have and perform all powers and duties incident or usual to such office.

(8) Shall make and keep in his or her office a record of all his or her official acts and proceedings, containing copies of all official opinions, reports, and correspondence, and also keep and preserve in the office all official letters and communications to him or her and cause a registry and index thereof to be made and kept, all of which official papers and records shall be subject to the inspection of the Governor of the state and to the disposition of the Legislature by act or resolution thereof.

(9) May periodically publish a report of his or her official opinions and may prepare and publish an index or consolidated index or indexes of opinions.

History.--s. 2, ch. 2, 1845; ch. 1845, 1871; RS 85; GS 87; RGS 101; CGL 125; s. 7, ch. 22858, 1945; s. 7, ch. 59-1; s. 1, ch. 78-399; s. 1, ch. 79-159; s. 7, ch. 81-259; s. 1, ch. 85-123; s. 45, ch. 95-147; s. 10, ch. 97-313; s. 6, ch. 2001-266...........



16.59 Medicaid fraud control.--There is created in the Department of Legal Affairs the Medicaid Fraud Control Unit, which may investigate all violations of s. 409.920 and any criminal violations discovered during the course of those investigations. The Medicaid Fraud Control Unit may refer any criminal violation so uncovered to the appropriate prosecuting authority. Offices of the Medicaid Fraud Control Unit and the offices of the Agency for Health Care Administration Medicaid program integrity program shall, to the extent possible, be collocated. The agency and the Department of Legal Affairs shall conduct joint training and other joint activities designed to increase communication and coordination in recovering overpayments.

History.--s. 2, ch. 94-251; s. 1, ch. 96-331; s. 1, ch. 2002-400.

16.60 Public records mediation program within the Office of the Attorney General; creation; duties.--

(1) As used in this section, "mediation" means a process whereby a neutral third person, called the mediator, acts to encourage and facilitate the resolution of a dispute between two or more parties. It is a formal, nonadversarial process that has the objective of helping the disputing parties reach a mutually acceptable, voluntary agreement. In mediation, decisionmaking authority rests with the parties. The role of the mediator includes, but is not limited to, assisting the parties in identifying issues, fostering joint problem solving, and exploring settlement alternatives.

(2) The public records mediation program is created within the Office of the Attorney General.

(3) The Office of the Attorney General shall:

(a) Employ one or more mediators to mediate disputes involving access to public records. A person may not be employed by the department as a mediator unless that person is a member in good standing of The Florida Bar. The Office of the Attorney General may adopt rules of procedure to govern its mediation proceedings.

(b) Recommend to the Legislature needed legislation governing access to public records.

(c) Assist the Department of State in preparing training seminars regarding access to public records.

(4) This section is intended to provide a method for resolving disputes relating to public records, and is intended to be supplemental to, not a substitution for, the other powers given to the Attorney General by law.

History.--s. 4, ch. 95-296; s. 3, ch. 2000-158; s. 2, ch. 2000-324.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0016/ch0016.htm
187 posted on 10/19/2003 7:30:19 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Ethan_Allen; Theodore R.; GWB and GOP Man; pc93; EternalVigilance; No More Gore Anymore; MHGinTN; ..
RE. my 2 posts above. Have at it. Is there anything here they can not deny?
188 posted on 10/19/2003 7:33:20 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Ethan_Allen
About Florida Medicaid

Medicaid is the state and federal partnership that provides health coverage for selected categories of people with low incomes. Its purpose is to improve the health of people who might otherwise go without medical care for themselves and their children. Medicaid is different in every state.

In Florida, the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA) develops and carries out policies related to the Medicaid program. A description of the services offered by the Florida Medicaid program can be found in the Summary of Services, 2003-2004 [1.2 MB PDF].

Note: If you experience problems opening the Summary or Services or any other file on this web site, please right click on the document name and choose "Save Target As". You can then save the document to your desk top or to a file of your choosing to access without going to the Internet. Adobe Acrobat Reader is required to read or print this file and is available at no cost at the Adobe web site.
Medicaid is different from Medicare. Medicare is a federal health insurance program for people who are age 65 or older or disabled. It is administered by the federal Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), formerly known as Health Care Financing Administration (HCFA). Eligibility for Medicare is not based on the person's income or assets.

Florida implemented the **Medicaid program on January 1, 1970, to provide medical services to **indigent people. Over the years, the Florida Legislature has authorized Medicaid reimbursement for additional services. A major expansion occurred in 1989, when the United States Congress mandated that states provide all Medicaid services allowable under the Social Security Act to children under the age of 21. http://www.fdhc.state.fl.us/Medicaid/index2.shtml


I have heard it both ways. One says Terri is on Medicare, one says Medicaid. If on Medicaid, I believe they would have had to spend down their funds. Was this the purpose of that Centzone (?) shell firm???
189 posted on 10/19/2003 7:37:58 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: onyx
Jeb has the duty to uphold the laws of Florida. He has been notitied that a murder is taking place ,in his state on his watch ,to a defensless diabled person. She is being starved and dehydrated against her will, upon the false testimony that she is brain dead and wants to die. She is not either .

Jeb claims that he can not do anyhting because Michael is the gaurdian... What happens the next time a parent, a garudian is beating the hell out of some infant in his state, What if that parent killed the kid by starving them.. well they are the gaurdian ,is there nothing he can do? If he can not do anyhting.. then no one can ever do anything about that wnat to talk about setting a bad precedent.

He is doing nothing. God help him. I really believed in him too. I expected one day to be voting for him for President. But the evidence is overwhelming that a crime is being commited on many different levels.

190 posted on 10/19/2003 7:44:47 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: summer
Beautiful summer...I am so moved by the picture you posted and the Psalm. I have the Psalm on my refrigerator door. Now I will print out the picture to go with it.
191 posted on 10/19/2003 7:55:32 AM PDT by harpo11 (Rush, He Ain't Heavy, He's Our Brother..Counting Day 9--21 to Go! Best Wishes, Godspeed. Rush!)
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To: summer
Thanks for posting these emails! Your email to the husband was very well worded.
192 posted on 10/19/2003 7:57:52 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: No More Gore Anymore
http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031015/APN/310150918

- July 29, 1993: Bob and Mary Schindler file petition to have Michael Schiavo removed as Terri's guardian. The case is later dismissed.

- May 1998: Michael Schiavo files petition to remove Terri's feeding tube.


QUESTION: What were the Schindlers doing during those 5 years?
193 posted on 10/19/2003 8:00:19 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (Life is too important to be taken seriously.)
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To: Arpege92
"It's frustration on their part and I have to take a step back and let these folks vent. :-} "

I think you have that exactly right. Many have just been needing to vent. I don't think there is anything wrong with letting them do either. You want to know something interesting I heard yesterday? Even the people on DU are wanting Terri to make it. I think this is the first time ever that I've seen a majority here agreeing with those at DU on anything. The first true non-partisan issue.
194 posted on 10/19/2003 8:05:12 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: GOPJ
I believe many of the "hate Jeb " crowd are really democrats who have seized a golden opportunity to bash Bush.

I hope and pray that you are right. I can't imagine many Freepers being opposed to Jeb Bush in this light.

195 posted on 10/19/2003 8:11:33 AM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: redlipstick
Here's a partial timeline:

http://www.terrisfight.org/Framesets/TimelineFrame.htm
196 posted on 10/19/2003 8:13:53 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Ethan_Allen
From above:

6. Any crime involving, or resulting in, fraud or deceit upon any ****person;



The 2003 Florida Statutes

Title I
CONSTRUCTION OF STATUTES Chapter 1
DEFINITIONS View Entire Chapter

1.01 Definitions.--In construing these statutes and each and every word, phrase, or part hereof, where the context will permit:

(1) The singular includes the plural and vice versa.

(2) Gender-specific language includes the other gender and neuter.

******(3) The word "person" includes individuals, children, firms, associations, joint adventures, partnerships, estates, trusts, business trusts, syndicates, fiduciaries, corporations, and all other groups or combinations......

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0001/SEC01.HTM&Title=->2003->Ch0001->Section%2001


197 posted on 10/19/2003 8:16:32 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: tutstar
http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler.asf

http://www.tomeaker.com/ts/terri-cable.mov

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download
198 posted on 10/19/2003 8:17:44 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: Theodore R.
"Another poster wrote: "I am pained by this case, but also pained by the hysterical posters who have attacked Gov. Bush""

If I have interpreted wrong, I apologize.

199 posted on 10/19/2003 8:20:27 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: Theodore R.; GWB and GOP Man; pc93; EternalVigilance; No More Gore Anymore; MHGinTN; MarMema; ...
Please Help: See numbers 184, 187, 189, 196. Thanks.
200 posted on 10/19/2003 8:22:10 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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