[NYer]

...the origins of the holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism and anti-Semitism, but in pre-Nazi Weimar Germany's acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable.

Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it!

[Pan_Yans Wife]

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[NYer]

Can this holocaust happen in America? Indeed, it has already begun. The idea of killing a person and calling it "death with dignity" is an oxymoron.

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

I stopped reading when I saw something trying to compare the Florida situation with Hitler and Nazi history.

It's not a court-ordered death. The court is simply allowing the doctors to proceed with the wishes of the legally responsible party - her husband.

It doesn't help the cause to mislabel things just to suit your opinion. Do I think this whole thing is a tragedy - of course. But it's not a court-ordered death, and it's got nothing to do with Hitler or Nazis.

You lose a lot of credibility when you try to turn things into something other than what they truly are...

This is a tragedy. The woman's family disagrees with the medical decision made by her husband - but - the law allows him to make that decision.

Maybe people should focus their energy on changing the law in this situation?

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Their physical death is preceded only by our moral death!

[JulieRNR21]

Ping...........

Excerpt:"the origins of the holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism and anti-Semitism, but in pre-Nazi Weimar Germany's acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable."

[Zavien Doombringer]

Since when did quality of life dictate right to life?

[sc2_ct]

I propose that in the event that Jeb Bush does not step forward and fulfill his obligation in this matter, that we organize a national grass-roots campaign to boot him from office. Is Florida a recall state? If not, I am certain that with determined grass-roots action come election time, his voter base can be mobilized to remove him from office. Let this be an opportunity to show ALL of our elected leaders in the Republican/Conservative/Libertarian arena that we, as free men and women, require MORE than just words. Make clear that we demand action in return for our continued support. Sure, the Right may loose some elected offices, but the seats lost are the seats that are just being warmed by spineless cowards. It is time to stop compromising. Time to stop choosing the lesser of two evils and supporting it. If we always continue to support the lesser of two evils, we will always have evil. Demand, through action and votes, that our leaders fight for the side of good. Inactivity is a form of action.

[maestro]

Thank you for this very important article!...............bookmarked.

The NSDAP issued it's 25 point 'program' 6 months before the Weimar Constitution......on February 24,1920.

Lawyers!!

[KantianBurke]

[Sabatier]

This bears repeating. Terri is not going to die because they have removed her feeding tube and are "allowing" her to die.

She will die because no one will be allowed to feed her. If you did that to an infant or a paraplegic it would be murder.
This is certainly a court-ordered death. It is not clear that it is what Terri wants. It is clear that it is what her husband wants.

Many of us would prefer to live in a society that in such cases gave the benefit of the doubt to life rather than to death. It is always fearsome when convenience hides behind mercy, human nature being what it is.

[Avoiding_Sulla]

The man depicted below is the American intellectual point-man (imported from Australia) for our latest push for marginalizing American Ethics to march with the Europeans in their century long decadence.

Professor Death has vile adherents on FR who decry being lumped in with the monsters who advocated this behavior in the past. Please do all you can to prevent them from disrupting this thread as they have done on other threads on this subject this very day!

Their next target is you or another loved one.

The elitists of our society have radically propelled their agenda to eradicate what used to be called basic human decency that was at the core that made America great. Without a doubt this is one of the reasons for the push for to eradicate all mention of God from the public sphere. Whether or not you are religious, you should see that removal of God removes the final impediment for power lusters to what they seek. To act as if they are God. The Judeo-Christian God is, in a purely philosophical-political sense, the ultimate competitor to human ubermenschen. Your job is to fight them now while you still may do so.

Without our overall sense of God-based morality which elevates our sense of basic decency to having a divine inspiration, and which runs as the undercurrent of our society, we will leave a police state to our posterity.

Sadly, most of you conservatives already know this even if they haven't voiced it yet. You must convince, first, our libertarian allies that the threat to them is not mention of God, but the eradication of the limits the presence of God places upon decadent human beings. After the libertarians, then some more liberals will start to see the truth in the death culturalists who now consider radical islam (with their death worship) their allies.

God bless you all.

-Avoiding Sulla (wishing to avoid the repeating the pattern of destruction that ended the Roman Republic that our power seekers and their Constitutionally destructive lawyers are pursuing)

[isrul]

Time grows short. Government machinery closes down at 5PM. If this happens, I don't expect to hear any good news over the weekend. Terri cannot last much longer. If the dehydration doesn't kill her, The constant sedation will.

I read something in the Florida constitution that the governor has the power to intervene to protect persons, property etc. in an emergency. Terri is a person. This is an emergency. He is free to exercise his executive powers as he believes is appropriate. That is not against the law even it is not in agreement with a court ruling.

I don't know where anyone ever got the idea that the courts have the final say in anything. This even applies to the Supreme Court. Abraham Lincoln ingnored their ruling as did WJC. That just about covers the full spectrum of morality.

If , after the governor takes executive action, I belive there are remedies in the legislature (impeachment, for one) and also the people may remedy it by voting him out of office. Either remedy is OK by because by the time they could be implementd tht Schindlers could have absconded Terri out of harms way to a safe haven.

[dansangel]

Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it!

I have been praying a Novena every day for sick friends of mine and have recently included Terri Schiavo. Through gritted teeth, I have tried to control myself, but end up speaking of the stupidity and selfishness of man to St. Therese Lisieux and also St. Peregrine.

I have also asked for the wisdom to see why it is permissible to do this to a human, but if we allow a dog or cat to starve to death, we would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Obviously, I'm just not smart enought to "get it."

[EternalVigilance]

Bill Federer, champion of life BUMP!

[Salvation]

"First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me --
and there was no one left to speak out for me."
~~Pastor Martin Niemoller
(victim of the Nazis)

Is there anything we can learn from this?
When they came for the Catholics?
When they came for the Baptists?
When they came for the fundamentalists?
When they came for the agnostics?
When they came for the physically disabled?
When they came for the mentally disabled?

Just something for all of us to think about -- is this picture larger than we currently see it?

[Dustbunny]

How very, very sad. She has been in a vegetated state for 13 years. No quality of life. She may very well be screaming in her brain for them to 'stop the merry go round, she wants to get off'. We will never know.

I am praying for her!