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The second American civil war: what it's about
townhall.com ^ | October 14, 2003 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 10/14/2003 2:59:45 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

Whatever your politics, you have to be oblivious to reality to deny that America today is torn by ideological divisions as deep as those of the Civil War era. We are, in fact, in the midst of the Second American Civil War.

Of course, one obvious difference between the two is that this Second Civil War is (thus far) non-violent. On the other hand, there is probably more hatred between the opposing sides today than there was during the First Civil War. And I am not talking about extremists. A senior editor of the respected center-left New Republic just wrote an article titled, "The Case for Bush Hatred," an article that could have been written by writers at most major American newspapers, by most Hollywood celebrities, and almost anyone else left of center. And the conservative hatred of former President Bill Clinton was equally deep.

In general, however, the similarities are greater than the differences. Once again the North and the South are at odds (though many individuals on each side identify with the other). And once again, the fate of the nation hangs in the balance. The two sides' values and visions of America are as incompatible as they were in the 1860s.

For those Americans who do not know what side they are on or who are not certain about what the Second American Civil War is being fought over, I offer a list of the most important areas of conflict.

While the views of many, probably even most, Americans do not fall entirely on either side, the two competing camps are quite distinguishable. On one side are those on the Left -- liberals, leftists and Greens -- who tend to agree with one another on almost all major issues. On the other side are those on the Right -- conservatives, rightists and libertarians -- who agree on stopping the Left, but differ with one another more often than those on the Left do.

Here, then, is Part One of the list of the major differences that are tearing America apart:

The Left believes in removing America's Judeo-Christian identity, e.g., removing "under God" from the Pledge, "In God we trust" from the currency, the oath to God and country from the Boy Scouts Pledge, etc. The Right believes that destroying these symbols and this identity is tantamount to destroying America.

The Left regards America as morally inferior to many European societies with their abolition of the death penalty, cradle-to-grave welfare and religion-free life; and it does not believe that there are distinctive American values worth preserving. The Right regards America as the last best hope for humanity and believes that there are distinctive American values -- the unique combination of a religious (Judeo-Christian) society, a secular government, personal liberty and capitalism -- worth fighting and dying for.

The Left believes that impersonal companies, multinational and otherwise, with their insatiable drive for profits, have a profoundly destructive effect on the country. The Right believes that the legal system, particularly trial lawyers, lawsuits and judges who make laws, is the greater threat to American society.

The Left believes multiculturalism should be the ideal for American schools and for government policy. The Right believes that the Americanization of all its citizens is indispensable to the survival of the United States.

The Left believes that the Boy Scouts as currently constituted pose a moral threat to society. The Right believes the Boy Scouts continue to be one of the greatest moral institutions in the country.

The Left believes in equality more than in liberty. The Right believes more in liberty. For example, the Left believes that for the equality's sake, men's clubs must accept women. The Right believes that for liberty's sake, associations must be free to choose their own members.

The Left believes that when schools give out condoms to teenagers, they are promoting safe sex. The Right believes that when schools give out condoms, they are promoting more sex.

The Left believes that poverty, racism and psychopathology cause violent crime. The Right believes a lack of self-control, lack of religious practice and lack of good values are the primary causes of violent crime.

The Left believes that "war is not the answer." The Right believes that war is often the only answer to governmental evil.

Any one of these differences is enough to create an entirely different America. Added together, the differences suggest people who live in different worlds that are on a collision course.

And I have only listed some of the conflicting views.

Next week, in Part Two, I will discuss the other major conflicts making for the Second American Civil War.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: culturewars; dennisprager; theleft
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The presidential election of 2008 will decide the fate of this Republic.
1 posted on 10/14/2003 2:59:45 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4
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2 posted on 10/14/2003 3:00:41 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
We are coming periously close to a "no turning back" point.


3 posted on 10/14/2003 3:11:45 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I think the 2000 election pretty much showed how divided our house is...and we know the fate of a house divided against itself. But you may be right that the "festivities" will begin after the 2008 election.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

4 posted on 10/14/2003 3:15:09 PM PDT by wku man (Bucs 35, Skins 22...HA!!!!!! Eat that, DC!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Here's a thread about Chittum's book and the whole idea of a second civil war in America:

Civil War II

5 posted on 10/14/2003 3:17:07 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
INTSUM
6 posted on 10/14/2003 3:18:57 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I have felt for a long time that some kind of civil war or extreme civil unrest is coming soon. The major cities in this country are overcrowded with little to no investment in infrastructure for over a decade. The poor are getting poorer and the middle class are shrinking in these urban areas. People are pissed off as noted by the recent recall here in California.

I don't know if it will happen. It just seems that their is a lot of pent-up anger and no where to vent.

Just my two cents.

7 posted on 10/14/2003 3:21:52 PM PDT by HOYA97
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"The presidential election of 2008 will decide the fate of this Republic."

Actually...the battle for the protection of the Second Amendment will decide the fate of this Republic...

8 posted on 10/14/2003 3:21:56 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: 45Auto
I don't know how I missed that one. Must have worked late that night. Thanks. Looks like it will take a while to read and digest.
9 posted on 10/14/2003 3:25:33 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Honest, LT, I thought it was a BTR-80; it looked just like a BTR-80 through my thermals)
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To: JDoutrider
Our side has most of the guns!
10 posted on 10/14/2003 3:26:23 PM PDT by smokinleroy
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Our side has most of the guns!

Be careful or they might just litigate!
11 posted on 10/14/2003 3:27:07 PM PDT by sc2_ct
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To: smokinleroy
Yes, but you can't shoot unarmed people without raising a ruckus.
12 posted on 10/14/2003 3:30:56 PM PDT by CO_dreamer
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To: smokinleroy
A lot of the left has guns. They just don't want us to have them.
13 posted on 10/14/2003 3:31:11 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I don't want to Raise Taxes" "I think everything must be looked at" - Jennifer Granholm. (D))
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To: smokinleroy
I'm a big RKBA supporter, but I am afraid the concept of the Second Amendment being the restart button on the Constitution is soon to be overtaken by technology. Civilian irregulars with small arms are just not the militarily significant threat they used to be. Look at Iraq. They have stockpiles of AK's in the basement of every grade school and what good has it done them? The overmatch of Land Warriors in advanced body armor versus the highest speed militia I can envision is so great as to be almost suicidal.
14 posted on 10/14/2003 3:41:41 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Honest, LT, I thought it was a BTR-80; it looked just like a BTR-80 through my thermals)
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To: 45Auto
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system but too early to start shooting the bastards" Claire Wolfe.

L

15 posted on 10/14/2003 3:44:57 PM PDT by Lurker (Some people say you can't kick a man when he's down. I say when is there a better time to do it?)
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To: HOYA97
I agree. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley (now living north in Acton...soon to Idaho I hope). The SF valley, and the City of L.A, are VASTLY different places than they were 30 years ago. Not to sound paranoid but I think the Rodney King "venting" session was just a preview of the sadly inevitable. I don't know what combination of factors (race,unemployment,decaying infrastructure, etc) will be the catalyst but I expect another large display of city wide and possibly state wide unrest within the decade. I hope not...but I think It'll happen.
16 posted on 10/14/2003 3:45:21 PM PDT by Ribeye (for rent....cheap.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Interesting. Looking forward to Part 2.
17 posted on 10/14/2003 3:50:48 PM PDT by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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To: smokinleroy

18 posted on 10/14/2003 3:50:49 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Better to die on your feet than live on your knees)
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I agree, but that assumes we won't have a pretty substantial formation of the military on "our" side.
If the military takes sides as a whole, game over. If it splits...
19 posted on 10/14/2003 3:51:51 PM PDT by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
He he he...we Southerners told you we'd rise again! ;-)
20 posted on 10/14/2003 3:52:40 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Wake Up America, You're Dreaming!)
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