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Immigrants passing out pink slips. U.S. unemployment highest level in 20 years.
www.zwire.com ^ | October 14, 2003 | STEVE GILL

Posted on 10/14/2003 1:12:52 PM PDT by VU4G10

The U.S. unemployment rate today is at the highest level in 20 years.
Millions of hard-working Americans who are desperate for jobs can't find them, and both the short term and long term prospects do not bode well for many American workers.

The economic problems we face would be bad enough if all we had to contend with were a recovering economy, the continued threat of terrorism, and increased competition from foreign companies.

But a Congress that should be looking for ways to help unemployed Americans is busy opening the floodgates to millions of new immigrants who take jobs away from Americans - and also helping companies take the remaining jobs offshore.

It almost appears that our government is committed to making sure everybody in the world has a job - except Americans.

Historically, the U.S. admitted around 300,000 legal immigrants per year, but Congress changed our immigration policies back around 1965 and opened the floodgates. We now allow more than a MILLION legal immigrants into the country each year. A small number of these are refugees; some have special skills not easily found here. But an increasingly large percentage of those pouring through our borders are undereducated, unskilled workers who threaten the income of blue-collar workers, the backbone of America. Millions more come here each year ILLEGALLY, and the government does nothing to stop that either.

It's no secret that most immigrants - legal and illegal - come to the United States for a single reason: money. They know that no matter what a job pays here, it will be far more than they could ever hope to earn in their own country. A job in America is a ticket to what appears to them to be a fortune, letting them live better than they could have imagined at home.

It's also no secret that those same immigrants will underbid any American for any job. Their arrival by the thousands corresponds directly with thousands of Americans being pushed out of a job. In effect, every visa given to an unskilled foreigner is really a pink slip handed to a hard-working American. Worse yet, the pink slips are being handed to Americans by their own government, paid for with their own tax money!

And the cost of this flood of immigration is not just being borne by those who lose their jobs. American taxpayers are increasingly funding the health, education and welfare of millions of immigrants at a cost of tens of billions of dollars per year. The Federation for American Immigration Reform recently released a report that detailed the fact that educating illegal alien children is costing the U.S. over $7 billion a year - enough to buy a computer for every middle school child in America. Health care for the two million illegals in California runs in the billions of dollars a year; and it is estimated that the annual health care costs of delivering illegal alien children in Denver, Colorado alone is in excess of ten million dollars. All of these costs are borne by American taxpayers.

Clearly, we have a broken system, one that lets hundreds of thousands of unskilled immigrants - legal and illegal - into the United States at random to take American jobs, stifle the American economy, and put little or nothing back into strained local, state and federal tax coffers.

This has to end. Congress needs to immediately enforce our immigration laws to stop the flood of illegal immigration and change our outdated laws to reduce legal immigration back to more manageable numbers. A step in the right direction is a bill introduced by Rep. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia, H.R. 775, which would end the totally unnecessary visa lottery program. It would help give us a "time out" while we assess other ways to manage immigration into this country.

America has always been a land of opportunity and a nation of immigrants. But when the opportunity is for today's flood of immigrants to put Americans on the unemployment line, our system is out of whack. Instead of maintaining policies that hand out pink slips to America, Congress needs to get serious about stopping illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration to reasonable levels that will allow the millions who have flooded into this country in recent years to assimilate. Every day of delay is another stack of pink slips for Americans.

 


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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free
Heck I should have written this for you

Freedom

Freedom isn’t free you know,
The cost is very high.
For freedom, battles must be fought,
And often people die.
We fight a war here everyday,
Against the liberal horde.
Our voice is heard, at least it’s read,
We speak through a keyboard.
So rally round the FR flag,
And listen when I say.
With your support we can fight on,
One dollar everyday.

Flurry 10/13/3
21 posted on 10/14/2003 2:04:44 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Of course it doesn't rhyme. It's a tagline not a poem.)
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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free
If you are talking legal able bodied immigrants I agree. If you are talking illegal I'll fight with you another day I'm tired. Also excluded should be those people coming here for the free ride.
22 posted on 10/14/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Of course it doesn't rhyme. It's a tagline not a poem.)
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To: BushCountry
"If you can't find a job, make one and quit bitching."

Can I make a few thousand and pass them out as favors?
23 posted on 10/14/2003 2:12:15 PM PDT by JohnSmithee
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To: VU4G10
Along the same lines, I work with a young lady who is going to University of Pittsburgh. She told me the other day that the foreign students attending the college don't pay tuition and get grants galore.

This same young lady (in her early 20's) already has a student loan debt of $22,000 and tuition costs for a local student have gone up from an average of $3000 per semester to $5000.

I guess that's to pay for the freeloaders tuition.

24 posted on 10/14/2003 2:21:34 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: JohnSmithee
Can I make a few thousand and pass them out as favors?

Sure you can, all it takes is a little hard work, foresight and two or three brain cells. People do it every day.

25 posted on 10/14/2003 2:22:43 PM PDT by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: TomGuy
Once the UE benefits run out, the unemployed person ceases to exist for statistical purposes. He is no longer counted as either employed or unemployed.

Wrong. If you not working and are looking for a job after unemployment has run out (or if you never collected it), you are counted as unemployed. If you haven't looked in 4 weeks, you aren't officially part of the labor force any more.

From the Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics http://www.bls.gov/dolfaq/bls_ques23.htm

Unemployed persons: All persons who had no employment during the reference week, were available for work, except for temporary illness, and had made specific efforts to find employment some time during the 4 week-period ending with the reference week. Persons who were waiting to be recalled to a job from which they had been laid off need not have been looking for work to be classified as unemployed.

26 posted on 10/14/2003 2:32:51 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Current time travel velocity: 3600 seconds/hour.)
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To: 3catsanadog
I work with a young lady who is going to University of Pittsburgh. She told me the other day that the foreign students attending the college don't pay tuition and get grants galore.

Are these illegals, or people legally here on student visas?

When I went to college here in Ohio in the late 80's, foreign students paid out of state rates + assorted extra fees. The only ones who got out of that were the teaching and research assistants who had part or all of their college paid for plus got a stipend, but I counted that as payment for their work.

27 posted on 10/14/2003 2:37:26 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Current time travel velocity: 3600 seconds/hour.)
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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free
"Most of the "unemployed" and "laid off" workers I've seen in the news did not lose the type of jobs that are typically taken by these immigrant workers."

Well, the mainstream liberal media sure wouldn't lie, now would they? Rest assured, illegal scumbags are taking skilled jobs...as I can personally attest to.

I've told this story so many times that many FReepers are doubtlessly getting sick of it, but I was fired from a $23/hr. telecom cabling job in suburban DC, while the company hired more and more illegal scumbag aliens for $8-10/hour. One of these scumbags was a roommate of mine in company housing, and often bragged about how he never paid taxes, drove without insurance, paid $400 for his forged documents to get the job, etc. Furthermore, ask the (likely) thousands of roofers, framers, bricklayers, and other skilled folks in the construction field who have lost their jobs to illegal scumbag aliens if their former jobs were "beneath their dignity".

Furthermore, the whole argument that "they do jobs Americans wouldn't take" is specious to begin with. If the criminals weren't here, the wages for those "undignified" jobs would have to rise to their true value level, and Americans would take them. The laws of supply and demand apply to labor as well, but I guess now that the American economy has morphed into the "global" economy, the rules of capitalism no longer apply.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

28 posted on 10/14/2003 2:45:33 PM PDT by wku man (Bucs 35, Skins 22...HA!!!!!! Eat that, DC!)
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To: VU4G10
This guy lost me on the unemployment figures. He reminds me of the fool in my nabe who whined about how Asian and Arab immigrants were bringing down "property values" (yes, that old canard again), when local housing prices have actually skyrocketed.

I too support reduced immigration, but this Wal Martian needs to get his facts straight before I could respect his opinion.

29 posted on 10/14/2003 2:46:28 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: skeeter
For example, the quotes I received for landscaping my front yard, the type of job permeated with illegals in these parts, 'bout knocked my socks off.

And people wonder why "landscapers" (as opposed to their illegal employees) in suburban NYC can afford a $500,000 house and a place "downashore."

30 posted on 10/14/2003 2:48:17 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free
So many fall for this line....they are doing jobs Americans will not do.

Change it "to they are doing jobs that Americans will not do at the current wage rate". Because Americans have to pay mortgages,taxes,student loans,healthcare,utility bills etc.etc.

Now offer $15-20 an hour for these jobs and stand back.


31 posted on 10/14/2003 2:54:15 PM PDT by ijcr (Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ability.)
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To: ijcr
Change it "to they are doing jobs that Americans will not do at the current wage rate". Because Americans have to pay mortgages,taxes,student loans,healthcare,utility bills etc.etc

Ding!Ding!Ding! We have a winner.

32 posted on 10/14/2003 2:56:57 PM PDT by riri (You need a new tagline.)
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To: KarlInOhio
No, you are wrong. Your response refers to the "reference week." That occurs ONLY when a person files for UE benefits. After benefits run out, a person no longer files; thus, they cease to exist for statistical purposes.

They may continue to be considered "active" and "searching for work" through their local state employment office, but they are no longer counted in the weekly "unemployed" numbers (after their benefits have run out).
33 posted on 10/14/2003 3:01:51 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: KarlInOhio
"If you not working and are looking for a job after unemployment has run out (or if you never collected it), you are counted as unemployed."

How would anyone even know? Once the benefits run out why would anyone give information on their current status?
34 posted on 10/14/2003 3:11:24 PM PDT by JohnSmithee
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To: wku man
One of these scumbags was a roommate of mine in company housing

So you were living with a criminal and living off of his ill-gotten gain (he shared the rent right?), and only after you were fired did you speak out. Why did you not call immigration (for his being here illegally), the IRS (for not paying taxes), and the state DOT (for not paying auto-liability insurance) while he was living with you?

35 posted on 10/14/2003 3:11:52 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free
You should come check out the tech industry. We have more foreign born workers than American born. Now, they are seeping into management positions, and hiring more foreign-born workers. The American worker is getting the shaft, and it needs to stop. Hopefully, the laid off Americans will start their own business in competition to these companies. It wouldn't be long before these American workers start picking up business. Why? Because the foreign born workers will work for dirt-cheap wages, that much is true. However, the quality of their work sucks big time. We get crap development and test work back from India. Then some poor smuck American has to work overtime (at no extra compensation) to fix their problems. I hope this comes back to bite American companies who do this in their big butts.
36 posted on 10/14/2003 3:22:21 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: wku man
You are right. Illegal aliens are taking every kind of job away from able-bodied, motivated Americans. They are a threat to the very future of almost every working American because they take the work directly away from Americans and artificially depress the price of all American labor by their massive, illegal presence. They are a scourge upon this land. They are disrespectful of our laws, language, sovereignty, citizenship and culture and they ought to be forcibly expelled from our country IMMEDIATELY!

I'm sick to death of this talk about how Americans won't work. There are millions of Americans who will work but who can't find a decent job because this country is being flooded with illegal aliens.

37 posted on 10/14/2003 3:41:43 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: skeeter
That is because the immigrants are only workers. They are employed by the contractor. He just makes a larger profit hiring immigrant workers for minimum wage or often less. If those immigrants weren't there, he would have to pay a resident an acceptable fee to do the job. Simple supply and demand sir.
38 posted on 10/14/2003 3:45:09 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (E)
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To: FreedomCalls
"(he shared the rent right?)"

Okay, tone down the emotion and read my post thoroughly..."company housing". That means the company furnished the housing, and no one on the crew paid the rent. Read thouroughly next time, please.

"...and only after you were fired did you speak out. Why did you not call immigration (for his being here illegally), the IRS (for not paying taxes), and the state DOT (for not paying auto-liability insurance) while he was living with you?"

Do you know me? Did you and I work together with that particular company? Or are you merely making an assumption about me and how I handled that particular situation? As a matter of fact, I did make a number of calls to the INS, and reported not only my roommate, but the company, because they had about 15 illegal scumbag aliens on the payroll. Of course, that was in August of 2001, so I imagine my report, if there was an investigation at all, got shuffled to the circular file the following month.

In the future, please don't make assumptions about people, especially those of us who are on your team. Contrary to the cliche, assumptions don't make asses of you and me, only you.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

39 posted on 10/14/2003 4:33:05 PM PDT by wku man (Bucs 35, Skins 22...HA!!!!!! Eat that, DC!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"They are a scourge upon this land. They are disrespectful of our laws, language, sovereignty, citizenship and culture and they ought to be forcibly expelled from our country IMMEDIATELY!"

Great post. And so true. I want to know what your theory is on why they are NOT be forcibly expelled from our country IMMEDIATELY and why our so-called "leaders" spew forth lies at every turn about illegal aliens. I have my own theories about this. I would like to hear others. Because we have to do something SOON if we want to save OUR country from destruction. We have to stop talking about it and DO something...and that something is not sending faxes, writing e-mails and making phone calls to our so-called elected "representatives"...because they don't care what we say about it and they don't care how we feel about it. They don't care that American lives are being destroyed by this massive invasion of illegal alien parasites. Now just exactly what does that tell us?
40 posted on 10/14/2003 4:44:32 PM PDT by vikingcelt
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