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Posted on 07/29/2025 5:11:44 PM PDT by artichokegrower
Nathan Gould wakes up in a California state prison cell every morning at 6 a.m. He stirs a cup of instant coffee, prays with his Bible and reflects on the day in 1994 when he killed a man in Bakersfield.
Homeless and drifting from one drug score to the next, Gould and his wife holed up with another transient in an abandoned warehouse. Gould attacked him with a knife, beat and tied him up, and proceeded to rifle through his belongings for a wad of cash he’d flashed earlier. When the man began yelling, Gould stuffed a sock in his mouth.
“I hate having to relive this sometimes,” Gould said before describing how he heard the man’s muffled grunts and failed to realize he was suffocating. “I didn’t know I broke his nose.”
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Hmmmmm..........
NO.
No
It doesn’t really sound like a poster child for ‘life without parole’. He killed another bum and he turned himself in.
On the other hand, it’s not like he was ever a productive member of society.
No. Next.
This is why we can’t punish. They tell us very little about the crimes. Then they want to let them out. This story gives more details than most. It was an accidental killing. No death penalty at stake. After the libs got rid of that, they just want them released outright. Give him another chance and if he kills again, oh well.
Back in the seventies one bunch of mass murderers got to live because the judge ruled too much pre-trial publicity negated their death sentences. Back then every day gave us a new technicality. And these were liberal, white male judges.
I remember the mother and two daughters burned to death in their beds in Connecticut. They skipped all the other details, but later wrote a story about the killer teaching Bible class in prison. The media hates Bibles otherwise.
Never!
I believe that an important principle of living out the Christian faith is acknowledging the fact some Christians should never receive parole or stop taking their drugs.
Elliot’s boy?
I would say nope.
He confessed.
If 25 qualifies as “youth” in Commiefornia, then the voting age should be 26.
If released odds are overwhelming that he would fall back into the drug life, and return to homelessness, theft, violence when high or desperate. Perhaps 30 years in prison is enough “punishment” for the semi-accidental murder. What is the cost to the new victims if he’s let out? What is the cost in money for apprehending him, emergency medical care for him and victims, jail, trials, prison, welfare for several children he’ll spawn, etc.?
I am trying to become a real Christian, and the concept of forgiveness (someone as unlikely as Jeffrey Dahlmer can be forgiven and go to heaven) is extraordinarily powerful. I have some personal experience with me, and I know it works.
And that is a fantastic thing to know.
But for me, I see it is as absolutely something between him and God.
As a human, I (we) do not know what is in that man’s heart. We do not see like God. And so, I see no conflict between my personal option to forgive someone who has done me harm, but to also maintain they should be responsible for his actions and punished by the society we live in.
I don’t think he should ever get out, but we should be helping them, if they aren’t on the death penalty, become productive within the prison walls.
30 years is a long time. I say give him a chance.
There are some murders for which parole should never be given. This doesn’t really seem like one of those. But there are things about it which I have no way of knowing. What bothers me is when killers are paroled who should never have been paroled.
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