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Republicans can’t sugarcoat their losses on abortion rights anymore
Vox ^ | Nov 8, 2023 | Rachel M. Cohen@rmc031

Posted on 11/09/2023 1:02:40 PM PST by entropy12

Even before Tuesday’s elections, many progressives insisted the question of whether protecting abortion rights wins elections was already asked and answered. Democrats made abortion rights the centerpiece of their campaign advertising during the 2022 midterms, a cycle where Democrats outperformed expectations, kept control of the US Senate, and staved off a red wave. Polls last year also found abortion rights to be a significantly motivating issue for both independent and Democratic voters.

Abortion rights ballot measures won in all six states where they appeared in 2022, including states like Montana, Kentucky, and Kansas that otherwise elected Republican candidates.

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykillers; election; fakenews; uniparty; vox
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I think only if there is a complete ban are “most women single issue voters”...most women do not want late term abortions


21 posted on 11/09/2023 1:22:58 PM PST by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

It is very wrong to abort a fetus. But should principles be abandoned for sake of winning elections? Only problem I have is pro-life agenda will not get a boost by losing elections. It is a serious conundrum.


22 posted on 11/09/2023 1:23:21 PM PST by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to srve peoe. GO TRUMP)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

If that were true Deep State wouldn’t have to steal elections.

BTW, I know a lot of pro-choice women.

Not one of them supports legalizing infanticide.


23 posted on 11/09/2023 1:24:25 PM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: CatOwner

Very true. Unfortunately, it’s not just liberal women, but I would say that it’s mostly women that have never had children, just a guess on my part, but they are adamant about this issue and think Republicans are just horrible for trying to take the choice away. It never occurs to them to argue and promote using birth control, abstaining and all the things that you can do to not be put in this situation. They are really brainwashed on this one.


24 posted on 11/09/2023 1:25:44 PM PST by dandiegirl (BOBBY m)
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To: OttawaFreeper

You are absolutely correct!


25 posted on 11/09/2023 1:27:23 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: OttawaFreeper

Right. And SCOTUS threw it back to the states because there is no role for the federal government in the abortion debate. So just as allowing unlimited abortion at the federal level, a federal BAN would also be unconstitutional. Republicans need to stop falling into this trap.


26 posted on 11/09/2023 1:28:07 PM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: entropy12

Any Christian Republican who backs down will hear these words. “I never knew you.” I don’t care what happens. You have to look at the long day.


27 posted on 11/09/2023 1:28:41 PM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: entropy12

It is SO EASY to just change the narrative to WHY IN THE HELL are abortions being used as birth control WHEN there are an ABUNDANCE of forms of birth control FREE to anyone who needs it, WHY are babies being killed in the womb, RIGHT BEFORE birth, when there is NO REASON for it TODAY!! Women back in the day did NOT HAVE all of these options available to them as they do today!!!


28 posted on 11/09/2023 1:30:30 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: entropy12

The problem is that the RNC did not counter any of those lying ads about abortion. The 12 yr. old girl that was illegally raped by her step father could still seek an abortion, just not in her state. Abortion is legal in the USA...per SCOTUS ruling, but the RNC says ziltch, nada, nulla.


29 posted on 11/09/2023 1:34:12 PM PST by Mashood
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To: entropy12

Something tells me you would fail if God decided to test you. Winning an election isn’t worth losing your salvation over.


30 posted on 11/09/2023 1:35:31 PM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: CatOwner

I would agree, my wife and I have three children, but she always tells me “it’s my right to choose.” I counter with “what right to choose life does the baby have?” We are both Christian and Catholics. It’s a conundrum.


31 posted on 11/09/2023 1:35:49 PM PST by kawhill (kawhill)
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To: reasonisfaith

It wasn’t all, or even mostly, election fraud. I have met LOTS of suburban women who are as adamant about keeping abortion rights as I am about gun rights. You ignore them at your peril.

Here’s the facts of life: we can successfully ban third trimester abortion. Attempting to ban first trimester abortions will just result in the election of Democrats who will then make abortion a sacrament. Stop ignoring reality.


32 posted on 11/09/2023 1:36:42 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: entropy12

Republican prolifers aren’t suger coating anything. They know that they are in the minority and that the road will be long. But they are prepared to fight indefinitely — until the sleep-arounds who kill their babies for birth control depopulate themselves. If the gsys can fight indefinitely, so can we. And there are many other issues by which Republicans can win.


33 posted on 11/09/2023 1:38:12 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: mewzilla

I didn’t say all women now did I? All there needs to be is enough to change an election.


34 posted on 11/09/2023 1:39:11 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“WHY are babies being killed in the womb, RIGHT BEFORE birth?”

A likely reason is the mom broke up with the dad and didn’t want to be a single mom.


35 posted on 11/09/2023 1:40:00 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: entropy12

It’s not just that. It’s overwhelming special interest money pushing lies about all out bans that are racking up the votes. The messaging is all coming from the far left and scaring people. If you put a ballot to do a full ban, a 15 week limit, or the language in Ohio this week of no limits up to birth the 15 week would be the consensus based on public opinion.


36 posted on 11/09/2023 1:42:41 PM PST by ilgipper (The mob only destroys. Never creates. )
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To: entropy12

Democrats: The narrative needs to be about abortion.


37 posted on 11/09/2023 1:45:26 PM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: SauronOfMordor
“WHY are babies being killed in the womb, RIGHT BEFORE birth?”

A likely reason is the mom broke up with the dad and didn’t want to be a single mom.

Right before birth? Go to term/near-term and give the baby up for adoption. I also would think giving birth would be less risky to the mother than a late-term abortion.

38 posted on 11/09/2023 1:45:46 PM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: entropy12

It’s not about abortion.


39 posted on 11/09/2023 1:47:12 PM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Fraud denial again.


40 posted on 11/09/2023 1:51:05 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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