Posted on 07/21/2018 10:52:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The Russia conspiracy theory hinges on the single creaky claim that the Democratic National Committee hacks were a Russian plot to elect Trump. The theory and all its illegitimate stepchildren, including Robert Mueller and his infinitely expanding corps of prosecutors, lives or dies by the DNC hacks.
Trying to elect Trump by releasing damaging insider information from the DNC never made any sense. The DNC was already a dysfunctional organization that was being run by the Clinton campaign. Undermining its leadership had little impact on the election, but a great deal on control of the DNC.
There has never been any evidence that the DNC hacks swung the election. The vast majority of people never even heard of them. Only a handful of political insiders and watchers, already deeply and unpersuadably committed to one side or another, could name the contents of a single email.
When you want to understand the motive of a crime, follow the money. See who benefited from it, not casually, but deeply and significantly enough to justify the effort and risk of undertaking it.
The hacks targeted Clinton allies and sought to undermine their influence within the Democrat Party.
Russiagates fervent conspiracy theorists spin an unlikely scenario in which Moscow had picked Trump early on, and then abandoned him in a crowded field against 16 candidates, while assuming that he would naturally triumph. Instead of leaking Jeb Bushs campaign emails or Marco Rubios, they bided their time and waited to release Debbie Wasserman-Schultzs and John Podestas emails.
Thats not a plan to help Trump win. It is a plan to take over the DNC.
Lets look at what the Russians were actually doing during the election. They had set up fake Facebook sites aimed at the left on issues ranging from Black Lives Matter to the pipeline protests. That is not the behavior of a foreign intelligence operation that wanted Trump to win and the left to lose. Instead the Russians appeared to have allied with the left to push the Democrats even further to the left.
Targeting the DNCs infrastructure also pushed the Democrats further to the left. The email hacks and leaks didnt elect Trump, but did shake up the DNC. Bernie Sanders reemerged as the figurehead of a leftist movement to take over the DNC. Bernies boy, Keith Ellison, claimed the No. 2 spot at the DNC. And Alexandria Ocasia-Cortez, the lefts current crush, is the latest triumph for that machine.
The socialist left were the biggest beneficiaries of the DNC hacks. The stolen emails confirmed claims by the Bernie campaign that the process had been rigged against them. It justified their campaign to clean up the mess by taking over the DNC while wiping out key Democrats who had been opposed to them.
The left was also the political movement with the richest and deepest connections to Russian intelligence. The media claims that Putin and his old KGB comrades are the natural allies of the right, but the alliance between the far left and Russian intelligence agencies dates back almost a century.
Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. Its hard to find a Marxist dictatorship backed by Russia that the elderly socialist hasnt praised and supported at the expense of our national interests. Bernie praised Castro, he supported the Sandinistas, and his foreign policy was little more than a KGB wish list.
Certainly Russian intelligence services would have been aware of Bernie Sanders as a political sympathizer and maintained a file on him. On a visit to the Soviet Union, he would have interacted with KGB personnel or those reporting to them: as was true of any important foreign visitor at the time.
Is it really farfetched to believe that a lefty politician, who had a history of visiting and supporting Communist and Marxist countries, and their agendas, didnt receive some support from Moscow?
The political movement that Bernie Sanders emerged from was notorious for its Russian ties.
. As Discover the Networks notes, Sanders had worked as an organizer for the United Packinghouse Workers Union (UPWU) which was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities for its Communist ties. An article in Class Struggle magazine described UPWU as one of the "communist led or influenced unions". Sanders had also spent time at a pro-Soviet Kibbutz.
While the media pursued Trump over his ties to Russian businessmen, Bernie had direct ties to organizations controlled directly or indirectly by Russian intelligence agencies.
Bernie flew a Soviet flag outside his office. As Paul Sperry noted, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to the triumph of Soviet power in the US.
Given all this, is it really implausible that the Russians were trying to help Bernie Sanders?
The media made a great deal out of a memo by the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll factory, allegedly claiming, use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump--we support them.) This memo likely had more to do with the Agencys objective of blending in on the left and the right to embed pro-Russian content than with Moscows larger political objectives, but the media quickly skips over the Sanders part of that memo while treating the Trump part as damning.
But if the Russians were trying to back a politician, would Trump or Bernie have been their choice?
Trump favors a strong foreign policy based on our national interests. Bernie boasts of opposing our national interests. Trump wants a strong America; Bernie wants an international socialist alliance.
But the Russians didnt believe they could rig an election. They wouldnt have believed that they could make Bernie president or even a presidential nominee. However they may have rightly thought that they could push the Democrats further to the left and boost their political allies within the DNC.
The Democrat hacks did little for Trump, but they gave Bernie a shot at taking over the DNC.
If we assume that Russias project was well-planned, proportional and successful, which considering the track record of their operations in this country is a sensible assumption, then that is what happened.
The post-election Dems are obsessed with Russia, but theyve also moved further to the left. And, regardless of the rhetoric, the Russians spent generations building up ties with the American left.
Whether its Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein or any of the other socialists, the DNC hacks weakened the Democrat establishment and strengthened a movement that Russia once used as its hand puppet.
The Democrats have made plenty of cracks about Trump as a Manchurian Candidate. But the movies Manchurian candidate was publicly opposed to Russia while secretly benefiting from Russian election interference. That doesnt describe Trump. It could describe Bernie Sanders. Or many others on the left.
Jill Stein, who initially cashed in by raising money for an election recount, fell afoul of Russiagate and is using recount cash to pay for the legal expenses of the Senate Intelligence Committees investigation of Russian election interference. The money is going to the Partnership for Civil Justice, part of the International Action Center, and allegedly a front for the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party.
The left has been crying, Russia and Treason on every network and in every newspaper. It might want to consider what a real investigation of its ties to Russian intelligence agencies will turn up.
Seth Rich definitely hacked it after he found out Bernie lost PA due to voter fraud by Hillary.
RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil Russias push into Ukraine has put many on edge. But less known is that Russia is also strengthening its military links south of the Rio Grande and re-establishing itself as a power in the region.
Vladimir Putin has been strengthening military links here, and Russia is now the largest arms dealer to governments in Latin America, surpassing the United States.
Russia has even floated the possibility of building new military bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and putting its warships permanently in the Caribbean.
In the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Russias top diplomat Sergei Lavrov recently visited Cuba, Peru, Chile, and Nicaragua, where he announced that Russia would also pour money into the new Central American canal project. ...
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/140508/russian-arms-military-trade-latin-america
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Moscow defense minister inks deals with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua for joint exercises
BY: Bill Gertz
February 20, 2015
Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscows Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.
Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb. 11 to 14. It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.
Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-boosts-arms-training-for-leftist-latin-militaries/
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KGB/FSB Putin wants a unified Korea...under communist NK rule
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Russia and North Korea declare 2015 a year of friendship
The biggest cause for concern is the growing military alliance between Russia and North Korea, with the two regimes recently announcing plans to conduct a series of joint army, navy and air force exercises this year.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11463265/Russia-and-North-Korea-declare-2015-a-year-of-friendship.html
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Russia steps up North Korea support to constrain US
May 17, 2017
Despite efforts by the United Nations to impose isolating sanctions on North Korea in response to the countrys continued development of nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, trade between Russia and North Korea soared more than 85 percent in the first four months of the year.
http://www.dw.com/en/russia-steps-up-north-korea-support-to-constrain-us/a-38867861
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Sept 5, 2017
North Korea nuclear crisis: Putin calls sanctions useless
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said pursuing further sanctions against North Korea is useless, saying theyd rather eat grass than give up their nuclear programme.
The US said on Monday it would table a new UN resolution on tougher sanctions in the wake of the latest test of a nuclear bomb by the North on Sunday.
Mr Putin also said that the ramping up of military hysteria could lead to global catastrophe.
He said diplomacy was the only answer.
China, the Norths main ally, has also called for a return to negotiations. ...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41158281
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants.
http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance
Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew
In a [] 1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."
"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."
"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html
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Link to read "New Lies for Old" online:
https://archive.org/details/GolitsynAnatoleTheNewLiesForOldOnes
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Link to read "The Perestroika Deception" online:
https://archive.org/details/pdfy-TVvzZzfXiMBkMdvD
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"Gentlemen, Comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about glasnost and perestroika and democracy in the coming years.
These are primarily for outward consumption.
There will be no significant internal change within the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes.
Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep".
-- Mikhial Gorbachev, former President of the Soviet Union, to the Politburo in November of 1987.
Americas Coming Crisis: Prophetic Warnings, Divine Destiny
By David N. Balmforth
Stupid conspiracy theory.
The right wing russophobe nuts are as crazy as their left-wing counterparts, and even more stupid.
Mock all you want.
The ‘Mocking Bird Media’ was branded a ‘conspiracy theory’ for decades too until the President declassified and released more of the JFK papers. That is explained in the second link given in #9.
Mock all you want about the Rothschild EMPIRE meaning the central bank of central banks aka the Bank of International Settlements or BIS which controls the EU and the EU is behind the decades-long push for globalization. The Rothschild EMPIRE encompasses 90%+ of all central banks on the globe.
And don’t confuse the Rothschild EMPIRE with LaRouche in an attempt to taint the facts, I never mentioned LaRouche and would not mention it.
I suppose you think globalization is a ‘conspiracy’ too? Yeah, you do. Because otherwise, you’d have to admit there is a source for it and that source would lead to global banking, ergo Rothschild Empire.
The right wing russophobe nuts are the fifth column of Dem party and GOPe.
Now America’s ally Mexico has got a left wing president.
Is it the evidence that russia meddled in Mexico election, as Hillary Clinton had predicted?
Lol.
LaRouche has to be brought in. Lets not forget the JBS and Alex Jones. You can hardly have a conversation about globalization without bringing in the entire world of conspiracy theories. The sheer audacity of the scope and the bizarre occult practices are brazenly paraded as proof of the ridiculous nature of the premise. Global businesses, financial institutions, politicians, royalty, international intelligence and counterintelligence agencies, communists, conservatives, media elites, academic leaders, and religious heads all working in concert to destroy the West?
Sheer folly, my man. Impossible, from any human perspective. Youre either insanely insightful or completely insane. Most will choose the latter.
How does it feel to be on the same side of history as Hillary?
Lemme see your ankles.
Bagster
Nice try but you failed. No sale.
I never mentioned LaRouche and I disagree that he has to be mentioned.
The facts are this:
1. The EU is pushing globalization. The entire BREXIT flap is a testament to this fact.
2. The EU is controlled by the ECB.
3. The ECB is controlled through the BIS.
4. The BIS is owned by a network that has as its head, prominent figures in the Rothschild family.
You can skew the above facts and you can try to taint the facts by introducing an irrelevant connection to LaRouche who I never mentioned and would not mention.
Nor did I mention Alex Jones or any other figures you hold in your arsenal of disreputable characters.
The facts I laid out above are clear. The EU is pushing for globalization and ultimately the managers for the Rothschild Empire are instrumental in pushing the globalization to include the United States as just another country name in a long list of names that are to be subjected to globalist trade policies, courts, and restrictions. Exhibit 1 is BREXIT.
> “Youre either insanely insightful or completely insane. ***Most*** will choose the latter.”
You’ve deluded yourself into thinking you are ‘MOST’. Your ego has made you think that your thoughts are more important than others in disagreement with you because your ego is ‘MOST’. In your small mind, you are MOST and others are small. And yet you reveal you are or have been a consumer of LaRouche or Alex Jones who were never mentioned in this dialog. You are hoping to convince yourself and others you are MOST and that those who don’t agree are LaRouche and Alex Jones grade characters.
Pathetic.
Did you know the CIA invented the derogatory use of the term "conspiracy theory?"
According to John Ayto, the phrase conspiracy theory was originally a neutral term and acquired a pejorative connotation only in the 1960s, with an implication that the theorist is paranoid.[13] Lance deHaven-Smith has suggested that the term was deployed in the 1960s by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to discredit John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories.[14]
Congratulations on being successfully indoctrinated. Enjoy the matrix.
#TheAwakening
Bagster
Russia has never forgiven us for placing Boris Yeltsin in the Kremlin thereby allowing oligarchs to loot the country while he was passed-out drunk.
You should attempt to read with a bit more discernment. I was stating that you must expect such responses, and I never suggested I was most.
Anger has its place, but theres a reason Aristotle placed pathos at the bottom of rhetorics hierarchy. Such emotional responses only validate the other sides narrative. Your ad-hominem and scathing tone are not likely to rally others to your cause.
When one wanders with songbirds and sorcerers, dont expect the general public to easily disregard the truths they know. Vermillion pills are hard to swallow, and often turn bitter in ones stomach.
You, of all people, should know better.
Read my post again, grasshopper.
I have to say, that Russia helping Bernie Sanders to disrupt the US Elections seems to fit the most logically in what they have always done.
> “Did you know the CIA invented the derogatory use of the term “conspiracy theory?”
That’s right Bagster. And CIA also spread the false rumor that the Mocking Bird Media was a ‘conspiracy theory’ when in fact the Mocking Bird Media claims were true all along as proven in the recent JFK documents release.
Here’s the short summary:
CIA grew out of the OSS and over decades, refined tools, sources, methods for assassinations, disinformation, media manipulation. To accomplish all this outside of Congressional oversight (keep its budget hidden), a different covert source of funding was needed. Enter the role of central banks (fiat currency creators, ‘money’ out of thin air, created today by entering digits in a computer and transferring to thousands of predesignated accounts worldwide), all of which is unseen.
How do we know of this secret funding?
In 2010, in the wake of the mortgage meltdown (which BTW was a planned attack) and the financial collapse, Dodd-Frank called for auditing the Fed (’crown jewels’ black budget audit, not the sham yearly audit). $16 Trillion was found to be off-books and much of it circulating in foreign accounts. Both Dodd and Frank were quickly resigned from Congress (forcibly so IMO) and their audit was abruptly halted. The Fed scrambled for damage control with respect to the $16T calling it a ‘refi’ of existing obligations, etc. Recently, Goodlatte’s committee found that money had been transferred back and forth to and from foreign accounts (Red Flag).
The CIA (and their counterparts in Five Eyes, e.g. MI6) has become the MS-13 for Central Banks (ultimately BIS), kid you not. But they have members with Ivy League degrees who wear suits and talk nice. They are masters at fooling us.
The Patriot Act called for establishing the JTTF. JTTF was a merger of CIA-FBI top echelon (and a ‘fusion’ of state and local law enforcement groups). Lotsa Lotsa $$$ bought and paid for deep state entrenchments at all levels of law enforcement. Exhibit 1: Strzok is FBI and CIA. CIA kids become CIA. Strzok’s father was CIA. Susan Rice was a CIA kid. Jeff Bezos was a CIA kid. Etc.
CIA kids really think they are patriotic and that Trump is a traitor. It’s simple to understand. They went far afield of control and oversight by Congress. They became ‘supranational’, our lords and masters. Trump was that crazy guy backed by the American Army who thinks MAGA and really believes it.
It really boils down to a global clique.
Auditing the Fed is on the agenda still (March 2018).
https://reason.com/blog/2018/03/06/rand-paul-on-trump-i-think-he-will-sign
It’s coming back especially in wake of the President’s comments against the Fed’s attempt to stop the real robust economic recovery. In my view, there is no doubt that the Fed is going to do whatever they can to take down Trump’s economic revival because it will make him too popular to stop in 2020.
And the simple graphic to keep in mind is: FED <— BIS —> ECB
But oh, there will be cries of ‘conspiracy theory’. Site pests will attempt to taint Hostage as one of those insane Larouche/Alex Jones conspiracy posters.
I don’t give a damn about LaRouche or Alex Jones.
That's right, YOU never suggested it, it was that liar controlling your ego that suggested it.
And now your inner liar is channeling Aristotle. Well, I'll be. Ain't that something ...
Can't wait to see your liar's next comment.
That's the absolute truth of it, Hostage.
One day these indoctrinated "site pests" as you call them will wake up to the truth and stop screaming "CONSPIRACY THEORY"alongside the leftist scum, like programmed robots.
Are there false "conspiracy theories?" Sure. What are the odds that EVERY SINGLE so-called "conspiracy theory" is false?
Slim to none, and slim just left town.
There's a war for America and the world going on, people.
p.s. Preach, Hostage, preach.
#TheAwakening
Bagster
Near as I can tell there is no proof that the Russians hack ANYTHING..!!
Keep in mind that, at one point in history, MOST people thought the earth was flat.
One person stood against the MOST. Turns out, he had the truth of it and MOST were full of dooky.
The truth is not democratic.
Think about it.
Bagster
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