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The Arena: Cruz missile
The Tufts Daily ^ | April 14, 2016 | Aren Torikian

Posted on 04/13/2016 10:47:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Candidates like Donald Trump are exciting. Trump is guaranteed to bring out thousands to his events and generate copious decibels of noise. He has built a campaign on telling it like it is and refusing to be politically correct.

Ted Cruz, on the other hand, is boring. He brings hundreds to his events and utters Ronald Reagan’s name a few times to get the crowd going. His demeanor is confident but not quite as in-your-face as Trump is. But for those afraid of what Trump stands for, Cruz may be the far more dangerous candidate.

For one, Cruz is much more reliably conservative. For instance, Trump donated money to the Carter campaign — against Reagan no less. While Cruz has consistently advocated against abortion, Trump was pro-life until the last few years, and has just recently gotten harsher on issues like gun laws and health care.

I’m sure he has changed as a person, but Trump seems to be saying exactly what the people want to hear. President Trump would act differently than candidate Trump. As Jimmy Carter put it, Trump is “malleable” while Cruz is not.

The biggest difference between the two is that Cruz knows what he’s doing. Take last weekend’s Colorado nominating process, for example. I call it a process because it was not a primary, nor a caucus. At the nominating convention, “voters” decided the 34 delegates who would attend the national convention (the one in Cleveland). Cruz ended up with every single delegate.

The Cruz campaign had volunteers on the ground handing out lists of the delegates it wanted. Trump’s organization was not quite as extensive. This is a problem he has had throughout the primary campaign. As a result, Trump’s difficult delegate math got even tougher, and the odds of a contested convention got even bigger.

Trump’s problem is one shared by a lot of far-right candidates of his sort. The enthusiasm and energy are easy; the organization is much harder. Furthermore, these sorts of candidates elicit a response from all parts of the political spectrum — Ted Cruz has become the anti-Trump.

This is why far-right candidates and parties struggle to make head way, both in the US and in Europe. In France for instance, the National Front (FN) can never quite knock either of the traditionally powerful parties out of office. French elections can go to a runoff between the top two candidates, and if the FN is one of them, the rest of France unites to keep it out of office.

While the US is of course different, I think we could see that effect in November if Trump wins. He would elicit the same type of response that the FN does. Moderate independents and even some Republicans would ensure a Democratic victory. But I’m not sure Cruz would elicit this response. Even though he is historically more conservative in his views than Trump, he won’t be perceived as an extremist. And that’s what should make a Cruz candidacy scary for liberals.


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1 posted on 04/13/2016 10:47:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The following paragraph is completely backwards.

This is the last paragraph in your post:

While the US is of course different, I think we could see that effect in November if Trump wins. He would elicit the same type of response that the FN does. Moderate independents and even some Republicans would ensure a Democratic victory. But I’m not sure Cruz would elicit this response. Even though he is historically more conservative in his views than Trump, he won’t be perceived as an extremist. And that’s what should make a Cruz candidacy scary for liberals.

Cruz isn’t at all “scary” for liberals.

Liberals would LOVE to run against Cruz. He is winning virtually no actual votes.

Trump will win cross-over voters, in large number, and will win the presidency.

Cruz will lost, a record-setting defeat to the GOP.

Except, the GOP will most likely dump him, once they can figure out how to eliminate the people’s actual choice, Donald Trump from consideration.


2 posted on 04/13/2016 10:54:06 PM PDT by cba123 (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's pointless to talk about a Cruz win because:

1) he is a tool of the GOPe to defeat Trump
2) he cannot win because there are insufficient
Evangelicals, Mormons, and Dominionists to win an election
3 posted on 04/13/2016 10:55:57 PM PDT by jobim
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he Cruz is so scary to liberals why aren’t any of them showing up to disrupt Cruz events? They couldn’t care less if Cruz is the nominee. Liberals all seem to know that Cruz couldn’t beat Hillary if she has to run the country from a jail cell, or spend part of her presidency picking up garbage at the side of the road. His chances of winning the Presidency are about as good as Lloyd getting the girl at the end of the movie Dumb and Dumber. - video clip here:

https://youtu.be/gqdNe8u-Jsg?t=72


4 posted on 04/13/2016 11:00:41 PM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dude, you’ve turned into an automated spambot for Cruz. There’s no way you’re doing all this on behalf of a losing campaign for free.

That’s right. I think you’re on the payroll of the Cruz campaign. There are some very dedicated Cruz supporters on this site, but none of them are waging a non stop ad campaign for Cruz like you are.


5 posted on 04/13/2016 11:02:48 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: cba123
Liberals would LOVE to run against Cruz. He is winning virtually no actual votes.

That's why the Wisconsin Democrats kept Cruz in it last week by crossing over in the Milwaukee-area counties.

6 posted on 04/13/2016 11:03:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: fireman15

Hundreds of them showed up at his Erie and San Diego rallies. Do you read the threads here?


7 posted on 04/13/2016 11:03:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Windflier

Did you notice that Cincinatus’ Wife has “disappeared”? :)


8 posted on 04/13/2016 11:04:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: Windflier

How many of them are shut-in disabled veterans?


9 posted on 04/13/2016 11:05:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well good for Ted then. I somehow missed those threads. I will do a search.


10 posted on 04/13/2016 11:05:53 PM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: kiryandil

“Did you notice that Cincinatus’ Wife has “disappeared”?”

2DV must have underbid her and won the contract to handle FR postings for the Cruz campaign.


11 posted on 04/13/2016 11:07:41 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“How many of them are shut-in disabled veterans?”

Dunno, but you seem to be able to work a computer just fine. How much does Cruz Inc pay you to run your keyboard anyway?


12 posted on 04/13/2016 11:10:04 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: fireman15

Here’s a recent one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3420643/posts


13 posted on 04/13/2016 11:11:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Windflier

My hands are not really the disability. Not a dime. Ever.


14 posted on 04/13/2016 11:11:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How many of them are shut-in disabled veterans?

Man, you have been drawing that like a sward. I just don't believe you.
15 posted on 04/13/2016 11:12:56 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- write-in)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Not a dime. Ever.”

Oh, then one of his SuperPacs pays you. Got it.


16 posted on 04/13/2016 11:13:29 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And why is it you have not responded to this?

posted on 5/12/2010, 3:03:41 PM by 2ndDivisionVet (Don’t care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A “Natural Born” citizen requires two US parents!)


17 posted on 04/13/2016 11:15:30 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- write-in)
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To: JoSixChip

And you think I give a s*** what your opinion is?


18 posted on 04/13/2016 11:15:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: JoSixChip

I think this username is being used by an Internet marketing firm that Cruz hired to handle social media promotion for him.

Typically several people will utilize the same username to cover different shifts, and they are likely outsourced overseas.

I’ve working in Internet marketing for almost 20 years, I know how it’s done.


19 posted on 04/13/2016 11:19:35 PM PDT by Rufus Shinra (Voting in my first primary in PA on April 26th!)
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To: Rufus Shinra
I think this username is being used by an Internet marketing firm that Cruz hired to handle social media promotion for him.

I don't know, every time he gets his little feeling hurt he pulls in JR. Of course JR ignores him from what I can tell, I'm sure he is as sick of 2ndDiv as the rest of us.
20 posted on 04/13/2016 11:24:05 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- write-in)
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