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Cruz Wanted a Border Wall in 2012 While Trump Was Still Lobbying for Amnesty [VIDEOS]
Soshble ^ | February 8, 2016 | JD Rucker

Posted on 03/22/2016 1:14:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The only defense that he and his supporters can muster is that he has "evolved" on his beliefs of nearly seven decades. This is awfully convenient, of course, considering that his new talking points match the narrative that is required to stir up what psychologists are calling the "authoritarian wing" of the Republican party. These are the Republicans who are angry about what the government is doing and who want someone strong to tell them what to think and how to act. It's the daddy-issues wing of the party - those who know enough to want change but who don't take the time to research the claims of their chosen candidate.

These people won't be reached. Instead, we're appealing to the curious- but thoughtful-Republicans who are interested in hearing what Trump has to say but who won't follow him blindly based upon the unlikely claim that he's erased 67-years of liberalism just in time to be Mr. Conservative. They will research him and come to the conclusion that he was pro-amnesty less than two years before his infamous anti-immigrant rant when he launched his campaign....

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted had a chance to make this central to his campaign.

He chose not to. He thought all he had to do was get the Christian vote that stayed home in 2012.

He left the door wide open for someone to tap into the anti illegal sentiment in this country


21 posted on 03/22/2016 1:29:31 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz pushed for doubling of immigrants, including Muslims, to 1.67M PER YEAR
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cruz-pushed-for-doubling-of-immigrants-including-muslims-to-1.67m-per-year/article/2586500
Plans pushed by GOP presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz under the immigration reform debate in 2013 would have jumped the number of immigrants, including those from Muslim nations, by doubling green card caps and boosting temporary worker visas five-fold.
22 posted on 03/22/2016 1:29:33 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: samtheman

Show me the bill he sponsored.

I want to see it too.


23 posted on 03/22/2016 1:30:42 PM PDT by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’re not getting real immigration reform (including a wall) unless congress gets their act together.

Cruz hasn’t been able to get the senate to cooperate with him. I don’t see that changing just because he changes from Senator Cruz to President Cruz.

Trump has decades of getting people to work together. I can guarantee you he’s had multiple contractors on projects who hate each other and blame each other and hate the inspectors and on and on. But he gets things done (and it seems on time and on budget). That means he can find win-win situations which all successful businessmen I know are experts at. He may not be able to do that with congress but I have higher hopes for him than Cruz.


24 posted on 03/22/2016 1:30:48 PM PDT by LostPassword
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To: rovenstinez
Comments, Cruz has the RECORD

Yep, of supporting TPA, corker bill, amnesty, increasing H1B visas, blm and as of this morning he is an apologist for isis.
25 posted on 03/22/2016 1:33:13 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - He's creepy and he's kooky, mysterious and spooky)
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To: scooby321

Where is the Wall Cruz proposed?

**************

The Canadain/Cuban isn’t going to build a wall. Hell it
may stop some of his family from coming to visit.


27 posted on 03/22/2016 1:35:01 PM PDT by deport
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To: napscoordinator

First, he said that he would waterboard, just not en mass as thee would have it. He would only do it in specific times and under specific circumstances.

When did he say he would not question terrorists families, I remember something about not summarily killing the families of terrorists.

Won’t stop the refugees, then why has he been calling for the halting of refugees coming into this country since Paris, San Bernedino, and again today.

Won’t round up the illegals, when has he said that? He has said that he is not going to create a mass of secret police, going door to door asking for papers. He has said that when we find illegals through the legal process, we deport them.

Which part of his policies would help ISIS, The overwhelming them in air raids, arming the Kurds, leading the Arab countries in fighting them, and possibly putting our own soldiers in force to “Utterly destroy ISIS”.
Or perhaps it is the talk of “If you wage jihad against America or Israel, you are signing your own death warrants.” That sounds like just the policies to help ISIS to me.

The wall that he was calling for since 2012 when he was first elected, the wall that should already have been built based on federal law, The one he has promised since this election started to finish building. That wall?

Finally the invitation to terrorists is very simple.
“You wage Jihad, you DIE”


28 posted on 03/22/2016 1:35:05 PM PDT by PA-LU Student (Ted Cruz. The one man the Republican Field is afraid to debate one on one!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was posted a couple months ago and discussed at length. Cruz’s ‘support’ for a wall was in fact a typical political answer to a question from a debate moderator as to whether he would support a wall along the length of the Texas/Mexico border. He never brought the issue up on his own the way Trump did. If you know had to interpret these kinds of answers, it’s clear that it was political doublespeak designed to cover all sides of the issue, just like Cruz’s comments that the protesters in Chicago were responsible for the riots, but at the same time Trump is responsible for creating the climate for encouraging them.

When asked if he supported building a wall, Cruz responded (I’m paraphrasing) ‘Yes. I support walls, fences, increased border security, drones, everify, anything that works.’ If you don’t see the wiggle room Cruz provides himself with that answer, you’re not looking very hard.


29 posted on 03/22/2016 1:35:11 PM PDT by mbrfl (Trump - Leading the shareholder revolt against the GOP)
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To: samtheman

“Show me the bill he sponsored.”

Are you referring to Trump?


30 posted on 03/22/2016 1:35:20 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

why was he on the border giving out bears to illegals as they crossed then?


31 posted on 03/22/2016 1:35:35 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The speech referenced in this screed has Ted calling for a fence. Not a wall.

Typical.


32 posted on 03/22/2016 1:36:09 PM PDT by datura
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To: cann

do you not see what you have just done?
You accuse others of insults and yet you did the same.


33 posted on 03/22/2016 1:36:17 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Liar.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI

Ted Cruz, U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, Hearing, 5/21/13: “And I'd like to make a final point to those advocacy groups that are very engaged in this issue and rightly concerned about addressing our immigration system and, in particular, about addressing the situation for the 11 million who are currently in the shadows. If this amendment is adopted to the current bill, the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status. They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed, under the terms of the bill, they would be eligible for LPR status as well so that they are out of the shadows, which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as their principal objective to provide a legal status for those who are here illegally to be out of the shadows. This amendment would allow that happen, but what it would do is remove the pathway to citizenship so that there are real consequences that respect the rule of law and that treat legal immigrants with the fairness and respect they deserve. And a second point to those advocacy groups that are so passionately engaged. In my view, if this committee rejects this amendment, and I think everyone here views it as quite likely this committee will choose to reject this amendment, in my view, that decision will make it much, much more likely that this entire bill will fail in the House of Representatives. I don't want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass. And so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle, if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that secures the borders, that improves legal immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows. Then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromised to come together. And this amendment, I believe, if this amendment were to pass, the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically.”
34 posted on 03/22/2016 1:36:56 PM PDT by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: Smokin' Joe

he might have been , just as he might have been giving to cruz too.


35 posted on 03/22/2016 1:37:05 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rovenstinez

what bill did he do or sponsor and when did he mention to build a wall please?


36 posted on 03/22/2016 1:38:04 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

That’s the poison pill, as I’m sure you know.


37 posted on 03/22/2016 1:39:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I just read Ted's immigration plan. When he says wall, it is very clear he means a fence. He even says something about a wall in Israel...and if you hit the word WALL in his text...it takes you to a picture of a FENCE in Israel.

When Trump says wall, he means something you bang your head against.

38 posted on 03/22/2016 1:41:15 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz was running for President.
He’s been running for President since he and Heidi got together.

Pretty obvious now.


39 posted on 03/22/2016 1:41:20 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Trump 2016!!)
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To: scooby321

With the most liberal President in US history at the helm.

What the hell did you want him to do?

He has stood for conservative principles his entire career, Trump, about 3 years...


40 posted on 03/22/2016 1:42:27 PM PDT by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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