Posted on 03/16/2016 8:43:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
What's that famous saying? "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." It's time for Ted Cruz to wake up and make the phone call that changes history, changes the GOP, changes the course of America.
It's time to face reality. Donald Trump will be the 2016 GOP presidential nominee. Only Trump has a path to the nomination. Ted Cruz is delusional if he thinks he can win the nomination...or deserves to win the nomination.
He was shut out on Tuesday night. Shut out as in zero, zilch, zip, nada. It was Trump 4, Kasich 1, Cruz 0, Rubio cut from the team.
Cruz can't be the nominee. We're deep into the GOP presidential race on a key Super Tuesday and he can't even win one state. The nomination winner can't be 0 for 5 on a Super Tuesday. That's not a man on the way to becoming leader of the free world.
Kasich can't be the nominee. He just won his first state out of 27. He's 1 win, 26 losses in the GOP race. And the one win was a "homer." The sitting Governor of Ohio just won his own state. My guess is very few sitting Governors have ever lost their home state. So please don't get any delusions of grandeur John! No GOP power broker is stupid enough to award the presidential nomination to a guy who is 1 win, 26 loses. That would be the death of the Republican Party.....
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Really it's too dumb to comment on.
No, Cruz would have to win almost every state from this point on to get the required delegates to win the nomination, which isn’t going to happen. Using the RCP’s current delegate allocations, there are <1000 delegates remaining. Some are unbound making the counts even smaller. Cruz is currently (again per RCP) at 411. I’ll even bump him to 427. Cruz would have to win almost 80% of the remaining delegates to win the nomination. If it is contested or brokered, Cruz is not getting the nomination.
When I said "combine", I did not mean as in working together. I just meant that once the number of additional delegates earned equals about 300 between both Cruz and Kasich, an open convention is assured.
You just said a nationalist is the only one that can win the general election. Now you’re saying look at the Republican results?The Republican results show that 60-65% of the Republicans don’t choose Trump.
By coincidence, nationwide Trump has a 60% disapproval rate.
By my calculations, that gives him 40% of the total electorate to work with. That means he loses the general election before he even starts.
When Cruz mumbled something similar at one of the debates Trump turned to him and said: "Well if that is true Ted then it means you would REALLY get killed".
Forget the common core math, isn't that really for (D)ummycrats anyway? Practically every single poll in 1980 after the convention with a "unified" (R) party still had the badly damaged laughingstock President Carter beating Reagan 60-30 or similar. And they continually do this kind of thing to steer sheeple into the pen of their choosing. Lots of sheeple bleat and dutifully march right on in. Baaaaahhhh.
Trump gets 40+% of (R) when he is running against (R) candidates. Trump got in the 30's when there were more (R)'s and was in the 20's when there were lots more (R) candidates. Many or maybe most will go along if he is the only (R), but certainly some children will take their toys and go home hoping that mommy dearest Hillary beats the bad man. They're lost causes.
Now how do you figure 40% of the (R) is the same as 40% of the electorate? Outside of the (R)-only universe Trump also gets many (I)ndependents and some direct crossover (D)ummycrats, the single most valuable commodity, twice as valuable as me or you.
What you should be asking is how does Ted Cruz get anyone except (R) voters of which he already gets less than Trump in state after state? How does Mr. New York Values even show his face in the big cities, blue collar areas, factory, industrial, coal and rust belt, moderate to liberal swathes of the country?
Cruz started as a factional candidate, a self-described hard-core conservative, and then went further with evangelical God whispering complete with extremely vulnerable sycophants like Glenn Beck and bible thumping pastors, all who would be edited into ads for the enemy to run against him 24/7 with free help from the enemedia that hates him to the core.
In short, Ted Cruz ran a primary-only campaign and then doubled-down again leaving it impossible to pivot back to the middle. To get elected by this lopsided electorate he actually needed F-117 stealth capabilities rather than flying in on a B-17 guns a blazing and bombs a dropping. Remind me why everyone says he is so smart again?
‘those of us who want a constitutional conservative (and a Christian) for president.’
To ‘those of you who want a constitutional conservative (and a Christian) for president.’,
how can Cruz, born in Canada, to a Cuban father, i.e. one who does not qualify to be the president under article 2 of the US constitution, be ‘constitutional’ ‘conservative?
Doesn’t a ‘constitutional conservative’ abide by the US constitution 100%, including article 2 nbc requirement for the presidency?
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. I’ve done the analysis - and I think that Trump could break 1,237 even if Cruz stays. But I think it’d be better if he leaves now or soon (maybe after AZ, to preserve his dignity). Better for him - he can cut a better deal. Better for the Party - it’ll be more unified. Better for the country - a unified Republican Party can beat The Witch.
Cruz can’t even find a jacket that fits him.
HEY MODERATOR!!! FREAKING STILL BLOCKING CRUZ SUPPORTERS - LMAO. FR WILL BE DEAD SOON. BUNCH OF LYING, HATE PROMOTING DT SUPPORTERS WHO SUCKLE KOOLAID FROM DT’S TEAT. YOU GUYS HAVE LOST YOUR PRINCIPLES, MORALS AND BRAINS.
Well you can see what little girl emotions get you. Screaming screeching people that quit thinking some time ago.
I don’t know how this is going to turn out but all the emotion certainly doesn’t add to honest debate. We are not on stage being goaded by the maggot.
Yes. I suppose his pant crease is out of whack, too. Shame!
week in the box
Trump is the only one who can beat Hillary. The reason: he’s the only one who will take on the lying media during the general election. The media is part of the DNC. We need a candidate savvy enough to fight them as well as hillary.
I used to want that phone call to be made.
My candidates, in order, were: Walker, Cruz, & Trump. I had often thought that Trump should nominate his VP (Cruz) for SCOTUS.
But Cruz has proved himself to be such a duplicitous, obnoxious human being in so many ways, that I wouldn’t want him to be my next door neighbor, let alone president. The only thing right now that would cause me to vote against DJT (or not vote at all) is for him to bring Cruz as his VP. His blatant dishonesty in characterizing Trump’s previous actions, his present positions, and his plans - despite being laid out on DJT’s website (even when demonstrated by fact-checkers) are breathtaking.
I wouldn’t hit a dog in the ass with him, but if I did by mistake, I’d apologize to the dog.
What you are ignoring is that all of the delegates committed to other candidates for the first ballot are free to vote for whomever they please on subsequent ballots. Therefore, Cruz's delegate count could include not only those delegates remaining to be selected during the primary season, but also those delegates already selected who are/were committed to other candidates.
In other words, if Trump does not have enough delegates to win on the first ballot, it is entirely possible that Cruz could win the second ballot after all the delegates become unbound.
Yes, they could. So what makes you think that the Cruz’s delegates won’t vote for the GOP stand-in after the first vote.
The disapproval ratings are based upon total electorate, which included Republicans, Independents, and Democrats.
Trump consistently has the worst disapproval rate of any presidential candidate by far. His disapproval rate sits at 60%. By comparison, Hillary is at 54% and Cruz is at 48%.
That is a big part of why Cruz does better in head to head matchups with Hillary.
The Reagan comparison is apples and oranges. I guarantee you Reagan never had a 60% disapproval rating at any time from 1980 to 1988, and things went downhill fast for Carter in the Fall of 1988.
Trump is already starting with an alltime lousy number for disapproval. It’s bound to improve (because it probably can’t get any worse), but it’s not at all at a level you want before a General Election. Granted things could go downhill fast for Hillary, too, if the feds finally announce their seeking an indictment, but we’ve been waiting a long time for that.
I know most of you Trumpbots think there’s no way Cruz could win being as firmly entrenched as a staunch conservative, but the only thing that’s prevented a conservative Presidential candidate from wining a general election since 1988 is the Republican voters. And Cruz, although he has high negatives as well, is not anywhere near the polarizing figure that Trump is.
If you’re not concerned about the fact that there are more than 60% of the Republicans voting for someone else, and there roughly a third or more of the voting Republicans who say they won’t vote for him no matter what, then you really are naive.
I never said they couldn’t. I’m addressing the argument that Cruz can’t win the nomination unless he takes 87% of the remaining votes. That’s not true. And yes, it also is possible that someone else could win the nomination if the rules were changed either before or at the Convention to remove the 8 state minimum.
My point is that there is no evidence at all that Trump is even a consensus pick among his own party.
Yes. Less have chosen Cruz, but both Trump’s and Cruz’s share are based on the absurdly high amount of candidates running. It is a fact that there is a heavy anti-Trump vote, but that vote is getting spread out among several candidates.
In hypothetical polls between Trump and Cruz, Cruz kicks his butt handily.
It’s not nonsense that only 35-40% of the party has chosen Trump; it’s a fact. And that’s not insignificant.
Well if that is the case, Cruz needs to win some states. At this time he doesn’t have the 8 state minimum to make it on the ballot.
Ha, he certainly has you buffaloed, bam-boozled, wool pulled over your eyes! Ted is establishment from the start. He is another Bush. Heidi is Council on Foreign Relations all the way. He owes his successful Senate campaign to Goldman-Sacs and other banking interests. He supports TPP and all that is wrong with that. Etc, Etc, Etc...
Go TRUMP!
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