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Is President Hillary Clinton, 2016 Inevitable?
Red State ^ | December 20, 2015 | Old Town Yankee

Posted on 12/20/2015 3:19:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Not since I voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 have I been so excited about the prospect of a true conservative as I was for 2016. With the likes of Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 94% there was plenty to be excited about. What I didn’t realize was the depth of disgust and anger that the base had for the establishment republicans. It wasn’t so apparent to me given that I have been living with RINO’s and turncoats up here in Massachusetts for decades. Then enter Trump.

I could never have imagined in my wildest dreams that base conservatives who are the salt of the political earth would cast away all their convictions and support a man like Donald Trump. We here at Red state and others on talk radio have scolded Rubio for his gang of eight move. We have criticized Cruz for not attacking other candidates and we failed to support Perry when he rightfully went after Trump. We talk of second amendment rights and those of the unborn and rightfully so. Yet almost without hesitation many of us have fallen behind a man as odious as Trump....

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To: RummyChick

I can’t believe anyone who considers themselves a “conservative” and criticises Trump - has actually spent time watching his rally videos, pressers, and media appearances.

If they truely had and understand what is happening they would not utter the criticisms they do.


41 posted on 12/20/2015 4:44:48 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Zeneta

Love that tune. Lump lingered last in line for brains and the ones she got were rotten and insane....


42 posted on 12/20/2015 4:48:03 PM PST by austingirl (Sharia, taqiyya, jihad, hijera- what more do you need to know about islam?)
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43 posted on 12/20/2015 4:52:22 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This writer's screen name made it obvious that he's from New England, but he actually from PLYMOUTH, MASSACHUSETTS , which explains his essay, doesn't it?


44 posted on 12/20/2015 5:05:51 PM PST by onyx
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To: American Faith Today

I agree with your excellent post almost 100 percent.

The only slight reservation I have is “end of times”. Not wanting to be Debby Downer in any way...but I fear for the US and have for many years. No one person can turn things around. The whole dang nation is going to have to make a change...economically, spiritually and every other way.I don’t see that happening any time soon.

So our country as we know it may transform, already has. I hate that for our young people.

So end of times may just be a transformation. (one we hate)


45 posted on 12/20/2015 5:32:43 PM PST by berdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio as a 94% conservative means nothing so long as he supports raising the Democrat Party to the status of Permanent ruling party in the nation with no checks, no balances.


46 posted on 12/20/2015 5:56:39 PM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
She is a lawyer. She will slip and slide her way past somebody like Cruz...

I disagree. Hillary is a small time lawyer who spent her "legal career" handling real estate scams, bribes from Tyson and flexing her muscle as "Mrs. Honcho".

Cruz has argued cases before the Supreme Court at least nine times, has integrity and sobriety. Hillary has gotten all the mileage she can out of "at this point, what does it matter" and Hubby's "It depends on what 'is' is."

47 posted on 12/20/2015 5:58:26 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: traderrob6
What worries most us us not backing him is not what he’s saying now. It’s what he has said and done all the years prior.

Some people stay the same all their lives and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to any kind of growth or change, even in small things like new technology. Many of these are arch conservatives.

Other people blow like the wind, this way and that. Most of these are liberals and progressives.

A third type of person is someone who can grow and change without losing a core stability. There may be some fluctuation between poles of popularly accepted ideologies; but this person considers both sides of a story before making a decision. Sometimes errors are made in one direction or the other; but there can be no president, nor any human whatsoever, who does not make errors from time to time.

Trump is that type: he grows and builds on a foundation that, in his case, is pretty solid. One thing he mentions a lot is his love of family and this country, and his wish to protect them both. That is a solid base and unlikely ever to change; whereas he has some latitude on policy. He is the type of person who will find out what the "market" will bear before making a hard and fast policy. He has named a number of conservatives who are likely to be in his circle of advisors. His main push will be to repair the economic damage done to our nation, to rebuild the military, to protect our borders, and to shrink government and regulation. It would be hard to get more conservative than that in our present situation.

If he fails to put social issues in the forefront to please diehard conservatives, I hope they content themselves with the reality that without a prospering nation and economy, unimaginable social evils await them with baited breath.

48 posted on 12/20/2015 6:15:17 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

I’d like to think that was the case, however, I’m not convinced.

Remember there is a 4th type....the type that is clever enough to discern a political opening and skillful enough to exploit that situation to their personal advantage.

That person has NO core beliefs either conservative or liberal/progressive. Their only motivation is self advancement, their only guiding principle is that which enhances personal wealth and power. This person has no conscience and no particular concern with right and wrong.

This type is the most dangerous of the four.

I am NOT saying that Donald Trump is such a person. My worry is that he just might be.


49 posted on 12/20/2015 8:16:52 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
I think you can cross that off your list. He simply has much too much to lose to be messing around for ego glory. His accomplishments are not just on paper; he has actually produced tangible assets and thriving businesses. He has dozens of resorts around the world, not even to mention scores of residential and office buildings in cities around the nation, plus his merchandise lines and media contracts. These are not just smoke and mirrors. It's inconceivable that he would just be in the race out of vanity, like Obama, who has no resume of any depth, no tangible accomplishments. Trump has lived in the public eye for almost five decades. Obama? We don't even know who he is; his "records" are "sealed." So no matter how shady The Donald may turn out to be, I can personally guarantee he will be like a solar flare compared to Obama's best intentions.
50 posted on 12/20/2015 8:29:03 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Red State GOPe mouthpiece


51 posted on 12/20/2015 8:40:58 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump and Cruz are not attacking each other. Why don't their follows take note)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Cruz’s would slice and dice Shrillery! one on one. He’s orders of magnitude smarter then she is, better informed, plus he has the better debating position (he’s actually RIGHT), AND he’s a good debater. Oh, and finally, she’s a moron. Hell, Cruz’ briefcase could kick her smarmy old Crusty-clad azz.


52 posted on 12/20/2015 10:08:37 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


The press wants us to think so, but no.

53 posted on 12/20/2015 10:50:38 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: timestax
Plus she wears wigs !

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54 posted on 12/22/2015 4:23:12 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perry - pure jealousy of Trump.
Jindal - pure jealousy of Trump.
Cruz - became jealous of Trump.
Rubio - becoming jealous of Trump.

Excited about Perry? Jindal? zzzzzzzzz


55 posted on 02/20/2016 12:10:43 PM PST by ShivaFan
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