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Why Hasn't Rand Paul Inherited His Father's Success?
National Public Radio ^ | December 1, 2015 | Sarah McCammon

Posted on 12/01/2015 7:16:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Four years ago, libertarians were an important force in the Republican presidential race. In the campaign for the 2012 nomination, Ron Paul was routinely drawing big crowds on college campuses.

He made a strong third-place showing in Iowa's important first-in-the-nation caucuses. Even though he failed to win the 2012 nomination, his supporters continued to organize, drawing attention to their small-government beliefs and taking over control of much of the Republican Party of Iowa for a time.

Many observers thought so-called "liberty movement" candidates might have an edge in 2016. But for Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, the heir apparent to the liberty movement in Iowa, that hasn't panned out....

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To: FourPeas

simple answer. Rand does not carry his fathers policies.


21 posted on 12/01/2015 8:20:37 PM PST by orthodoxjew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we had great hopes for Rand but he sounds just about as naive or dangerous about defense and foreign policy matters... as his Daddy did

these fellows can make some very good sense on a number of other issues, but we cannot afford to turn our defense over to their weird POV, imho


22 posted on 12/01/2015 8:24:04 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like a lot of what both of them say but they whore out to the GOP to get elected. Rand should drop the R, and if he can’t win as a libertarian (which is what he is) then go back to eye-doctoring.


23 posted on 12/01/2015 8:26:42 PM PST by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He wants to go from nobody to president in 6 years; he is unwilling to sit in the Senate and constantly fight. He is like my generation, constantly thinks everything will go his way if he just gets this one last promotion.

I really wish people were willing to stick in the Senate/House for a couple of decades rather than jockey for the presidency.
24 posted on 12/01/2015 8:29:50 PM PST by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: doc1019
His father is a wako and so is he ... ‘nuff said.
Ditto with an apostrophe added. :)
25 posted on 12/01/2015 8:39:26 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Vermont Lt

I like Rand. I like anyone that actually tries to constrain government. He and Cruz are the only two running that have actually done something in that regard. Of the two, I like Cruz more. Quite a bit more, actually.

But Rand... he goes off the reservation once in a while (which is a big reason he is going nowhere with his father’s base). I don’t agree with him all the time but all in all he is okay.

Carson is a flake. Trump is right on one issue and is liberal on most everything else. Rubio is open borders and wants big brother spying on us for our own good (as do most of the candidates).

Cruz and Paul are close on most issues and are the only two that know what the Constitution is. Cruz is electable. Paul is not.


26 posted on 12/01/2015 8:39:36 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why has national public radio (comparable perhaps to a fireside chat at one time), been replaced with the equivalent of a communist/socialist Zune.


27 posted on 12/01/2015 8:48:04 PM PST by This_far
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huh.
.WHAT success?


28 posted on 12/01/2015 9:21:14 PM PST by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Four years ago, libertarians were an important force in the Republican presidential race.

Like to admit it or not, not unlike Ross Perot, RonPaul and the libertarians helped give us nobama2 on steroids and the shock of reality may have actually woke them up to the reality of anarchy.


29 posted on 12/01/2015 9:42:09 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As I recall, Rand's fall from grace began when he expressed carefully worded support for some of William Snowden’s political goals.

Cruz briefly followed Rand's lead on that issue, but Cruz then immediately walked away from it when he realized that many Conservatives were enraged by Snowden’s actions.

A year ago I would have voted for Rand Paul if he was the GOP nominee.

But today, no.

Rand is “soft” on almost every issue I care about the most - crime, national defense, intelligence gathering, the defense of Israel, and massive legal and illegal immigration.

30 posted on 12/01/2015 10:27:57 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: cripplecreek; All

Because Liberterians are only celebrated by the media when they can be used as a tool to defeat Conservatives.


31 posted on 12/01/2015 11:50:06 PM PST by marktwain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He supported AMNESTY !

32 posted on 12/01/2015 11:55:10 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually this is the kind of thinking one could expect to get from NPR. Inherit success? Really?


33 posted on 12/02/2015 3:05:52 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is satire right?


34 posted on 12/02/2015 5:38:05 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rand fell too close to the tree.

He occasionally talked a bit more conservative and sane, but I respect his father more than I do him - at least his father didn't go all over the spectrum - you knew exactly who and what you were dealing with...

35 posted on 12/02/2015 5:50:23 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bernie’s giving the college kids their grandpa fix.


36 posted on 12/02/2015 6:08:21 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ronnietherocket3

>> He wants to go from nobody to president in 6 years; he is unwilling to sit in the Senate and constantly fight. He is like my generation, constantly thinks everything will go his way if he just gets this one last promotion <<

Who are you talking about? Obama? Cruz? Rubio?


37 posted on 12/02/2015 7:18:41 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: trebb

>> Rand fell too close to the tree <<

Or maybe he fell OUT of a tree and whacked his head on a hard object.


38 posted on 12/02/2015 7:20:19 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Alberta's Child; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican
>> I'd also point out that the workings of the U.S. Senate are very different than the House. It's much easier to be a principled conservative in the House because gerrymandered districts are easier to defend as a candidate. This is how you end up with some of the most conservative House members representing districts in some very "blue" states. <<

Shhhh... a major talking point of anti-17thers on FR is to claim that there's "no difference" between the House and the Senate since the 17th amendment passed, and "we might as well abolish the Senate" if they don't get their way and change it back to politicians appointing Senators for us.

Shame on you for using facts to demonstrate otherwise. ;-)

39 posted on 12/02/2015 3:16:45 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy; Alberta's Child; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican
RE:” I'd also point out that the workings of the U.S. Senate are very different than the House. It's much easier to be a principled conservative in the House because gerrymandered districts are easier to defend as a candidate. This is how you end up with some of the most conservative House members representing districts in some very “blue” states. <<
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Shhhh... a major talking point of anti-17thers on FR is to claim that there's “no difference” between the House and the Senate since the 17th amendment passed, and “we might as well abolish the Senate” if they don't get their way and change it back to politicians appointing Senators for us.
Shame on you for using facts to demonstrate otherwise. ;-)”

There are way more differences than that, but that is a relevant one.

Its also easier to be a left-wing nut-ball in the house with the smaller districts.

The governor picking Senator's idea might look attractive to Republicans because the GOP has been doing well recently in state governor's elections, but not was well in Senate elections.

40 posted on 12/02/2015 3:53:27 PM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait"')
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