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‘Shocker’ New Poll Says Trump Lost GOP Debate to Someone Who Wasn’t Even On Stage With Him
The Blaze ^ | August 9, 2015 | Kaitlyn Schallhorn

Posted on 08/09/2015 1:03:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

According to a new poll, Carly Fiorina is the Republican presidential candidate of choice after Thursday night’s debates.

The nationwide poll of more than 17,000 people from the Association of Mature American Citizens — a conservative organization for those 50-years-old and up — asked who won Thursday night and included candidates in the official GOP debate and the earlier, second-tier debate. With 6,273 votes Fiorina led the poll at 36 percent.

Texas Senator Ted Cruz came in second place with 17 percent of the votes (3,015), and controversial real estate mogul Donald Trump came in third place with 14 percent of the votes (2,414).

“For those of us who know Carly, her dominating performance was no surprise,” Anna Epstein, press secretary for Fiorina’s campaign told TheBlaze. “With the lowest name ID in the field, it’s important to keep introducing her to voters and letting them see that she is a true conservative ready to challenge the status quo. So we’ll keep traveling the country, meeting voters, and answering their questions.”

But according to the press release from AMAC, the organization’s president, Dan Weber, called the results a “shocker.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: California; New York; Texas; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2016debates; 2016election; 2016polls; annaepstein; california; carlyfiorina; cruz; demagogicparty; election2016; fiorina; glennbeck; kaitlynschallhorn; memebuilding; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; stormtrumpers; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those who voted for her either are not conservative or they have no idea what her personal beliefs are.


21 posted on 08/09/2015 1:24:11 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Huh. Second, again. Becoming a trend.


22 posted on 08/09/2015 1:24:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Blaze? which actually declared war on Trump? (they went all huffpo long ago)


23 posted on 08/09/2015 1:25:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
La Raza Rick bested Christie and the Huckster.


24 posted on 08/09/2015 1:25:47 PM PDT by South40 ("Florida Governor Jeb Bush is a good man," ~Donald Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Weird. You can still vote in the poll.

Vote here
25 posted on 08/09/2015 1:25:49 PM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline for lease)
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To: skeeter

There is pretty much nothing more annoying than fake outrage by a politician..


26 posted on 08/09/2015 1:26:10 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
(Just my "humble opinion"): I think a more accurate statement would be that, of all of the candidates who participated in either of the debates on Thursday, Carly Fiorina did the most to improve herself in the polls. I think Jindal and Perry did a good job in the early debate as well. I don't see the others moving into the top tier.

Regarding the "Prime Time" debate, I think Trump held his ground and did not experience the implosion that some predicted (and maybe hoped for.) I think Cruz, Huckabee, Christie, Rubio, and Walker had a good night. The remaining candidates, Carson, Paul, Kasich, and Bush did not do anything to hurt themselves, but did not raise their standing, either.

27 posted on 08/09/2015 1:29:20 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Florida Times-Union, likely voters, 8/7/15

Trump 27
Bush 26
Cruz 8
Carson 8
Rubio 7
Walker 6
Huckabee 4
Kasich 3
Paul 2
Jindal 2
Fiorina 2
Perry 1
Christie 1
Graham 0


28 posted on 08/09/2015 1:30:59 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was beginning to see Carly as valuable as a Hillary attacker, but she’s turned to attacking Trump which outs her as Establishment.


29 posted on 08/09/2015 1:32:55 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: PIF

If Cruz were beating me in my own state (looking at you, Marco) I’d drop out. Could you imagine a real poll where Rubio beats Ted in Texas?


30 posted on 08/09/2015 1:33:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

AAMAC. Another outfit Beck flacked for pretty hard. Could he possibly be one of its instigators? All I can say is, I’ve looked at their mailers from time to time, and thought about joining, but I just never felt a freedom in my spirit to follow through.

The organization may be as pure as a baby’s smile. But somehow, right now, I’m glad I never joined.


31 posted on 08/09/2015 1:41:58 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m all for Cruz.
TRUMP/CRUZ 2016!


32 posted on 08/09/2015 1:43:02 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; 2ndDivisionVet
Yup, The Blaze promised to ban any mention of Donald Trump. Another broken promise by Beck which is why I have not listened to him in years.

Yes, 2ndDivisionVet. Cruz is moving up. Great news!

33 posted on 08/09/2015 1:45:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Catsrus
DId I miss anything?

She tried to blame Ted Cruz for the government "shutdown".

34 posted on 08/09/2015 1:46:32 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Some notes on Carly (who I want to remain in the race attacking Hillary constantly until the end, or until Hillary drops out):
Daughter of a law school professor and an abstract artist...
Her BA's are in philosophy and medieval history... ahem...
She dropped out of Law School after ONE semester (note the father above)...
She worked as a temp agency secretary during undergrad, then as a real estate broker for 6 months, then taught English in Italy for a year (when her first husband moved there for his job)...
Married in 1977, gets her Masters in Marketing and joins AT&T as a management trainee in 1980, divorces in 1984...

Got all that? By the time she was 30, she had not held a job for more than a year, and her educational fields are all over the place, and she already has a divorce under her belt... not exactly Presidential background thus far... now watch this...

1985, marries Mr Fiorina... who happens to be an exec at AT&T. Not tough to guess how her marriage ended and how she got married less than a year later...
Now, married to an AT&T exec, watch her career path suddenly change:

1995, led corporate operations for the spinoff from AT&T of Lucent...
1996, appointed president of Lucent's consumer products business...
1997, appointed chair of Lucent's consumer communications joint venture with Philips...
1998, named group president for the global service provider business at Lucent...
1999, named chief executive officer of Hewlett-Packard Company
(received a larger signing offer than any of her predecessors, including: $65 million in stock, a $3 million signing bonus, a $1 million annual salary (plus a $1.25–3.75 million annual bonus), $36,000 in mortgage assistance)
2001, merger with Compaq...
2003, requests for voluntary pay cuts to prevent layoffs (subsequently followed by the largest layoffs in HP's history)...
2005, forced to resign from HP...

2006, USAToday names her Worst Tech CEO of all-time

Overcame breast cancer, and then took it to Barbara Boxer during her 2009 campaign against her. Made a classic bad ad ("demon sheep"), and lost... but her line "I have to say that after chemotherapy, Barbara Boxer just isn't that scary anymore" was also a classic.

She is THE best person to go after Hillary from now until NOV 2016... but she also should not be the nominee nor named the VP.

35 posted on 08/09/2015 1:51:03 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: PIF

Florida Times-Union, likely voters, 8/7/15

Trump 27
Bush 26


Wow! I’m amazed at these numbers!

FoxNews is trying to do to Donald Trump exactly what they accused CNN and MSNBC of doing to Hillary back in 2007.

FoxNews was once consider a media watchdog. Even Hillary Clinton said (in 2007) FoxNews was the most fair news network of them all during the democratic primary.

I’m so happy I switched over to NewsmaxTV


36 posted on 08/09/2015 1:51:52 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But but the NBC online poll....


37 posted on 08/09/2015 1:55:42 PM PDT by z taxman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP/MSM are not happy Trump KO'd their lapdog.

38 posted on 08/09/2015 2:11:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nhwingut
Weird. You can still vote in the poll.

And I just did...... twice. And I am not a member of Amac, nor am I 50+ years old....

39 posted on 08/09/2015 2:15:44 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a shocker. Simply ridiculous. It’s essentially impossible to compare these two independent debates any more than it makes sense to compare the annual apple harvest to the annual orange harvest. It’s not possible to legitimately lump these two debates together, since you can poll only those who watched both debates, which of course excludes the great bulk of those who skipped the kiddie debate and watched only the REAL debate, not to mention so few people watched the kiddie debate.


40 posted on 08/09/2015 2:37:26 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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