Prior to that, there had been considerable support for Rudy on FR. A few months earlier, Rudy had actually placed second in a straw poll on FR. The "Rudybots" as they were termed, were actively posting pro Giuliani threads pretty much 24/7.
What finally led Jim Robinson to take this step were Giuliani's comments in support of the Roe v. Wade decision at the May 3rd GOP presidential debate.
Prior to that, Rudy had increasingly come under the microscope at FR. The "Giuliani Truth File" was a stand alone category on the FR home page. There was an ongoing STOP RUDY NOW News & Information Thread that was featured.
Now let me state a few things for the record.
1. Jim Robinson is absolutely correct that a pro-choice position is anathema to FReepers. We may disagree on other topics, but this is our hill, on which we will all stand and die together. Rudy could not be the GOP nominee for that reason alone.
2. Many questioned whether Jim Rob should take such a drastic course of action..banning hundreds of people. Some felt that it would be better to engage in ongoing debate and discussion among ourselves. That was never the question. Indeed, it was never up for debate. I lost several good friends, of many years standing, that day, but I never questioned his absolute right to take that course of action. It is his website; he is free to run it as he sees fit, and those who can't abide with his decisions have the freedom to go elsewhere.
Now that we have that out of the way, let us turn our attention to "The Donald."
Trump is NOT a conservative.
He is not even a Republican. He was a registered Democrat from 2001-2009.
He has given far more to Democrats than to Republicans.
For most of his life, he was strongly, and proudly pro-choice. IOW, he was OK with killing babies.
He will NOT pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee, and will not promise to NOT run a third-party race.
What Trump IS, is a narcissistic, megalomaniacal, bloviating asshole. It is beyond me how so many self-proclaimed conservatives here at FR could be supporting this clown. He is utterly unfit to serve as NYC Sanitation Commissioner, let alone as President.
That is of course their absolute right to do so.
But what I fail to understand is why Jim Robinson has not as yet banished all the "Trumpsters" from FR? What, pray tell, makes "the Donald" acceptable here, whereas Giuliani was not?
Jim seems to be quite supportive of Trump, if you have been paying attention.
Still butt hurt from 2007...?
You’ve apparently missed JR’s recent “Go Trump, Go Cruz” posts.
Because Trump is doing a wonderful service.
He’s an awful candidate and I oppose him becoming the R nominee.
However, his CANDIDACY is wonderful. He’s making the Republicans address real issues. He’s changing the dialogue. His refreshing honesty and directness has yielded ever-increasing poll numbers, and may give a lesson to people I do support (Ted Cruz).
I am against banning Trump supporters at this time. The man is doing a world of good.
Well, I’m all in for Cruz, but I say, Go, Trump, GO!! Keep on socking it to the leftists and the GOP-e RINOS!! He hits them with the straight forward truth and they can’t handle it. Cry like babies.
“What, pray tell, makes “the Donald” acceptable here, whereas Giuliani was not?”
“The Donald” is a businessman who is setting the national narrative on critical topics like illegal immigration and the treatment of veterans.
Just last week there was a hearing in Congress featuring victims of crimes by illegal immigrants, and now issues related to the care of veterans is getting significant media play.
Not bad for a campaign that’s officially just about one month old!
I don’t think the support for Trump is nearly as rabid and irrational as the support for Rudy was. I recall how stupid all us non-Rudy supporters were because he was the only one who could win. I remember that purge and the evolution troll zots, and FR is better for it.
He didn’t ban me.
I do not think Jim needs your counsel, he can make up his own mind on these matters.
Man, it could happen at any time. Even if you just appreciate
what Trump is saying.. Jim might ZOT you and your little dog, too.
He's really mean, I've seen pictures. He does not look kind or nice.
I would personally run for covers, either into a concrete bunker
or into a well defined ditch.. Jim might ZOT us all any time.
He's a mean old bastard and he could ZOT the lot of us right this minute.
Beware, be warned.. be in a ditch.
I remember saying something positive about Giuliani and it was in the absence of any decent contenders
Jim gave some very negative feedback and it was explicitly regarding Giuliani s being pro abortion
I don’t have any problem staying away from pro abortion candidates. And it’s Jim’s site. So that was it.
I never got banned
There was no banning
It always amazes me when one of our number comes apart at the seams!
1. Trump is better by far than Obama, Hillary, or Bernie
2. If nothing else, he’s articulating issues that no other politician dares mention
3. Obscenity in speech is the first sign of weakness in one’s position.
IBTZ, IBNC (in before nick caraway)
Beard the lion much?
I’ve been here fifteen years, and found myself on the opposite side of Jim’s candidate selections quite a few times.
Haven’t been banned yet.
And I saw what happened to the Rooty-rooters, and they brought it on themselves.
Because the biggest hurdle to conservative change is overcoming the gop leadership. This is a fairly new revelation to conservatives. I think after 2014 the republican base now realizes that even when we win we lose. I think there is a hope that trump will bring frank and honest conversation into washington, even if we disagree on many issues
Do you remember Senator Phil Graham? He used to be a democrat. So the fact that someone used to be a democrat is not a “killer” for me.
The abortion issue may very well be a “killer” for me.
It’s not a good time to try to institute internal jihads IMHO. That’s all I have to say about this thread and its premises.
Can’t we just talk about the illegal alien invasion a little longer?