Prior to that, there had been considerable support for Rudy on FR. A few months earlier, Rudy had actually placed second in a straw poll on FR. The "Rudybots" as they were termed, were actively posting pro Giuliani threads pretty much 24/7.
What finally led Jim Robinson to take this step were Giuliani's comments in support of the Roe v. Wade decision at the May 3rd GOP presidential debate.
Prior to that, Rudy had increasingly come under the microscope at FR. The "Giuliani Truth File" was a stand alone category on the FR home page. There was an ongoing “STOP RUDY NOW News & Information Thread” that was featured.
Now let me state a few things for the record.
1. Jim Robinson is absolutely correct that a pro-choice position is anathema to FReepers. We may disagree on other topics, but this is our hill, on which we will all stand and die together. Rudy could not be the GOP nominee for that reason alone.
2. Many questioned whether Jim Rob should take such a drastic course of action..banning hundreds of people. Some felt that it would be better to engage in ongoing debate and discussion among ourselves. That was never the question. Indeed, it was never up for debate. I lost several good friends, of many years standing, that day, but I never questioned his absolute right to take that course of action. It is his website; he is free to run it as he sees fit, and those who can't abide with his decisions have the freedom to go elsewhere.
Now that we have that out of the way, let us turn our attention to "The Donald."
Trump is NOT a conservative.
He is not even a Republican. He was a registered Democrat from 2001-2009.
He has given far more to Democrats than to Republicans.
For most of his life, he was strongly, and proudly pro-choice. IOW, he was OK with killing babies.
He will NOT pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee, and will not promise to NOT run a third-party race.
What Trump IS, is a narcissistic, megalomaniacal, bloviating asshole. It is beyond me how so many self-proclaimed conservatives here at FR could be supporting this clown. He is utterly unfit to serve as NYC Sanitation Commissioner, let alone as President.
That is of course their absolute right to do so.
But what I fail to understand is why Jim Robinson has not as yet banished all the "Trumpsters" from FR? What, pray tell, makes "the Donald" acceptable here, whereas Giuliani was not?
There is only one issue this election and that issue is (illegal) immigration. 30+ million new Rats voters will doom conservatism to the ash bin of history. We can afford to lose and fight another day on every issue but immigration. If we lose on that issue this cycle we are finished as nation.
I don't think he has the personality to be Presidential for 4 or 8 years, and I don't like the precedent of electing billionaires or firebrand celebrities... but if the GOP nominee is not Cruz or Walker, my vote goes where Trump goes.
Trump has the field addressing the issues they would rather dodge. That’s a start.
“When will Jim Robinson banish Trump supporters from FR, like he did in 2007 with Giuliani advocates”
Cruz people heading right off the deep end.
Submit or we shall demand suppression....because Giuliani.
Tell you what, go over to DU and start a thread on whomever your favorite candidate is and see how long you last before you get banned.
Is that what you want from FR? Ban everyone who doesn't agree with you?.......Nice
Quit whining.
I think Cruz supporters will eventually be banned.
The threads calling Cruz cultist don’t get locked and are placed in the sidebar.
Threads attacking Cruz’s citizenship status get the same good treatment.
We’ll see what happens but that thought above is from observation.
Cruz-bot’s now calling for Stalinist repression. How funny!
That’s what happens when you play in somebody else’s sandbox. Sometimes you’re asked to take your ball and go home, sometimes they just tell you to leave your ball and go home.
Besides, is there anybody here seriously for anybody but Trump or Cruz?
Who wants to know?
Are you feeling better about us Trumpsters now?
Trump is not the uniparty.
He is second best for destroying them.
Keep playing.
Not true. The pro-Rudy folks intentionally self-immolated to present themselves are martyrs. There were quite a few pro-Rudy folks left untouched, but a vocal subset would intentionally post zot-bait comments and articles just so they could whine about how they were being persecuted. Went off and tried to start another site, which flopped.
I think the Trump crowd are being hoodwinked and are acting against conservative interest. But they're going to be safe from expulsion until they start actually defending Trump's non-conservative positions on the merits.
“Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement”
Trump will be a dagger in the heart of the establishment and the leftists. He already is...
I don’t think you keep up too well with Jim Rob. The Sore Cruzerman thing isn’t going to work this year. :-)