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Tea party leader to be tried on felony charges over email to elected official
BizPac Review ^ | September 8, 2013 | Tom Tillison

Posted on 09/08/2013 5:18:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Before firing off that next email to an elected official, you’d better cross your fingers and hope the politician is not feeling anxious about your message.

A judge in Oklahoma Friday ordered the co-founder of the Sooner Tea Party to be tried on felony blackmail and computer crimes charges for sending an email to a state senator who said he felt threatened by its tone, The Associated Press reported.

The judge ruled that probable cause exists that Al Gerhart committed the crimes when he sent an email allegedly designed to intimidate Oklahoma state Sen. Cliff Branan, the Republican chairman of the Senate Energy Committee.....

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TOPICS: Oklahoma; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: algerhart; cliffbranan; felonyemail; oklahoma; soonerteaparty; teaparty
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To: B4Ranch

” He tried to blackmail him and deserves to be punished.”

Hardly qualified as blackmail as he says he has nothing, but will search diligently to discover some dirt.

Looking is legal.

As for family being off limits, remember what the Presstitutes did with the Bush daughters?


21 posted on 09/08/2013 5:46:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Now what did Obama say? If they bring a knife, we bring a gun.
Trumpka : something about smashing us in the mouth?
There have been all kinds of threats against conservatives which were actual attempts to incite violence. And violence has been done against us and nobody seems to mind.
22 posted on 09/08/2013 5:47:22 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: golux

“We will dig into your past, your family, your associates, and once we start on you there will be no end to it.”

It’s OK if the government does it.


23 posted on 09/08/2013 5:57:28 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh, Sen. Branan, your actions are the intimidating ones. !


24 posted on 09/08/2013 6:03:45 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Isn’t this what the media did to Sarah Palin?


25 posted on 09/08/2013 6:06:11 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: PapaBear3625

Shut up and be a good comrade. You know we have every email and phone call you ever made, and can search and mine and analyze them all in a nanosecond.


26 posted on 09/08/2013 6:08:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: golux

How so?


27 posted on 09/08/2013 6:08:37 PM PDT by Roux (Ignorance can be cured but stupid is forever.)
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To: golux

Threatening to engage in legal activity is protected speech, especially in the case of a public figure. There is no actionable threat here.


28 posted on 09/08/2013 6:21:29 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer; Roux

Oh. Well it sort of seemed that way to me. I am not a lawyer but it seems as if when the fellow is talking about family, friends, and “no end” it’s sort of a nonspecific threat. That said it’s hard to get a conviction on this sort of thing. Very well, I am corrected.


29 posted on 09/08/2013 6:31:59 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux

“I will make you the laughing stock of the Senate” is a threat, but only a political one, and is protected free speech. There is certainly no crime there.


30 posted on 09/08/2013 6:44:09 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: PapaBear3625
I think the sender is revealed as an obnoxious, threatening, thuggish, uncivil creep --- but that's now the normal level of intimidation in the United States of Alinsky.

If this type of pressure is illegal, a large percentage of political speech will have been ruled out. Maybe we'll all be the better for it.

But I doubt it.

I'm siding with the First Amendment on this one. Despite the fact that I think this particular TeePer has made an ass of himself.

31 posted on 09/08/2013 6:55:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Aye, ye better agree or ye be walkin' the plank, ye pustulant, pox-ridden flounder!")
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To: PapaBear3625
the email said. “We will dig into your past, your family, your associates, and once we start on you there will be no end to it.”

The threat sounds kind of like what was actually done to Sarah Palin but not as bad.

32 posted on 09/08/2013 6:57:36 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: golux

What is he threatening to do that is illegal? Absent illegality, where is the tort?


33 posted on 09/08/2013 7:01:55 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'll have to see the email in its entirety before I comment.

That aside, if someone went after my family, I'd have to qualms about "taking care of" the situation as soon as the situation is known by any means necessary. Go after me all you want. Family? I'll do what I have to do - and it will never be in the threatening person's favor because now it's personal.

34 posted on 09/08/2013 7:06:25 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: muir_redwoods; iowamark

Yes, I see. I am not a lawyer. Perhaps I am wrong. As I posted earlier I thought the business about friends and family was spooky.


35 posted on 09/08/2013 7:11:45 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux

It is spooky; it’s meant to scare the guy. That’s how the IRS coerces compliance. So long as the threat is to do something not illegal, no tort is committed.


36 posted on 09/08/2013 7:53:17 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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37 posted on 09/08/2013 8:18:26 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: B4Ranch

It was a stupid thing to use such a childish threat.

This is exactly why lots of us “normal citizens” who participated in early Tea Party Rallies saw the idiots trying to take charge and backed away.


38 posted on 09/08/2013 8:21:18 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: muir_redwoods

A tort is a civil wrong. He’s being charged with criminal felony.


39 posted on 09/08/2013 8:30:12 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Findlaw says otherwise:

"Generally speaking, "assault" occurs when someone threatens bodily harm to another in a convincing way. Assault often is followed by battery, which is defined as unlawful physical conduct (often an act of violence, but also unwelcome sexual contact). Not all threats are considered assault. To rise to the level of an actionable offense (in which the plaintiff may file suit), two main elements must be present: The act was intended to cause apprehension of harmful or offensive contact; and the act indeed caused apprehension in the victim that harmful or offensive contact would occur. Therefore, a person who intends to cause apprehension of imminent harm and succeeds in doing so has committed the tort of assault, which also is a crime.

See more at: http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-assault.html

40 posted on 09/08/2013 8:40:26 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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