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Move Over Sarah, The ‘Hillary For President’ Drumbeat Has Begun
Mediaite ^ | July 15, 2010 | Glynnis MacNicol

Posted on 07/15/2010 2:26:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The rehabilitation of Hillary Clinton has been interesting to watch, and will likely get more so if this is any indication. An op-ed in today’s Wall St. Journal by Pete DuPont is making the case that Hillary Clinton could launch a formidable campaign against incumbent President Barack Obama in 2012.

The question of whether Hillary plans on making another White House run has been casually bandied about since her hard fought 2008 campaign against Obama, but this is the first time I can recall seeing it in a serious publication…though I strongly suspect it will not be the last. The speculation this time around comes as a direct result of Obama’s plunging poll numbers (Hillary, by contrast, rates 45% favorable and only 35% unfavorable) and the approaching mid-terms, which even Press Sec. Robert Gibbs is none too optimistic about. Neither of these things, of course, are remotely new challenges for a incumbent president to face — Bill Clinton in 1994 is obviously the first example to spring to mind. What is new, however, is the wave of euphoria that Obama swept into office on, making this plunge all the more dramatic. But also: Sarah Palin.

First, here are the reasons DuPont thinks Hillary would be a good choice for the Dems:

She is one of the most experienced prospective candidates the Democratic Party has had in a long while: wife of a governor, U.S. first lady [nice that these attributes are now considered boons], senator and now secretary of state. This is a good record to run on as someone who knows how the government works.

Fourth, she is an experienced foreign-policy adviser who understands the threats to our national security: unresolved conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, rising threats of nuclear capability in Iran and North Korea, and uncertainties in Pakistan.

Fifth, experience will be even more important to voters in the 2012 presidential election, whose 2008 gamble on someone with little experience is proving costly.

All good strong, reasons, and ones that are notably lacking on the GOP side. Ironically, what DuPont neglects to include is the fact that Hillary’s a woman could also be a huge selling point, particularly now that Sarah Palin has been banging the Mama Grizzly drum so consistently.

It’s not a secret that Palin of late has been ingeniously cashing in on those 18 million cracks in the ceiling Hillary so notably inspired in 2008. In fact, lest we forget, in the beginning that was Palin’s reason for being: to allow the McCain campaign to capitalize on all those women votes. In the interim however she’s built (in ways no one could have anticipated) enough national clout to be widely considered the GOP’s strongest candidate for Oval Office, which may say as much about the roster of GOP candidates as it says about Palin — who I am still not convinced actually wants to be president — but nevertheless she’s a force to be reckoned with. Likely absolutely nothing could take the wind out of those sails faster or more permanently than Hillary Clinton. A hypothetical I imagine the media is going to harp on in the next few months: could there be a greater gift to the calbers and blogosphere than a Clinton vs Palin election year?

Mind you, there’s also the question of whether Hillary Clinton wants to be president still, or would consider launching a campaign against an incumbent from her own party (the last person to seriously do so was Pat Buchanan in 1992); one imagines Obama’s poll numbers would have to be rock bottom to justify such a decision. And even then it would be tough.

Of course, it’s still early and plenty could happen in the next 12 months that would entirely change the national political stage: the hole could be plugged, the economy could rebound. That said, the media started beating the Obama drum shortly before the 2006 midterms so perhaps it’s not that early at all, if the 2008 political season is anything to go by — and granted Bush was not an incumbent — the presidential debates should begin sometime next April.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; hillary; hillary2012; obama; palin; palin2012; sarahpalin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Drink up Hillary - the nomination is yours!


21 posted on 07/15/2010 2:55:45 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: nhwingut

Much more realistic........


22 posted on 07/15/2010 2:56:12 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The blacks will close ranks around Obama 100%.

Blacks make up 40% or more of Democrat primary voters.

There is no way for anyone but Obama to win the Dhim primary.


23 posted on 07/15/2010 2:57:21 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

24 posted on 07/15/2010 2:58:08 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All through 2008 I was hopping for Rattendämmerung, the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary. May it really happen this time.

Has challenger within the party ever knocked out an incumbent president and then gone on to win? Usually even a serious challenge is the kiss of death, either because of the primary or because the president must be awful to invite a party challenger.

Well, I waited so long to post that I found my own answer. President Pierce lost the primary in 1856 to James Buchanan, who won. That was the only time a President lost his primary nomination to the man who was elected in the general. And that year the Whig party was breaking up and the Republican was ascending, so it would take a self destructing Republican Party to allow Hillary to win the general after beating Obama in the primary. And how could the Republicans screw that up..... oh, no, Hillary's going to win. We're doomed with President Hillary and First Horndog Bill....got to find my happy pills, where are the happy pills?

25 posted on 07/15/2010 2:59:10 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: nhwingut
People will vote for someone they like, that is usually attractive.

I am trying to be charitable here, but time and her life as she lived it, shows on her face.

I and many wont or can't vote for her...


26 posted on 07/15/2010 2:59:57 PM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: dead

(Lil’ John) - “SHOTS! SHOTS! SHOTS! SHOTS!”


27 posted on 07/15/2010 3:00:25 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: taildragger
People will vote for someone they like, that is usually attractive.

I am trying to be charitable here, but time and her life as she lived it, shows on her face.

She's Bill's version of the Picture of Dorian Gray. All of his sins showed up on her face, and he's awfully sinful.

28 posted on 07/15/2010 3:03:46 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Wow, I had to google it to get the reference. Powerful.


29 posted on 07/15/2010 3:06:31 PM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: KarlInOhio

If Hillary! decides to have a go, the 2012 primary season will be filled with excitement for sure.

I wonder how much the Clinton private detective teams have been able to turn up on Baraq since Nov 08?


30 posted on 07/15/2010 3:06:55 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The PUMA’S (party unity my ass) can kiss mine. They jumped on islamabama’s wagon as soon as Hillary sold out.


31 posted on 07/15/2010 3:09:40 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( Democrat-Republican, whatever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great idea, Hillary. Go ahead and piss off all the blacks and see how big an electoral margin you carry. DO IT!!


32 posted on 07/15/2010 3:12:27 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: marron
I’m expecting Biden to step aside at some point and Hillary to take his place as VP before the election.

Some big GOP wonk that got snared in the Abramoff scandal has predicted just this. You take the doctors telling him to drink less, and his grandiose behavior of having lavish parties one after another, and one may question his mental health. You can google all the shrinks that have come out and noted he maybe a Malignant Narcissist (which crash and burn badly if you read up on them by they way..), etc. I have asked a gnome I know will he take a powder because of his mental health and the answer is No, too much as stake they (The DNC and other "organizations") would do everything to prop him up given he is a 1st.

33 posted on 07/15/2010 3:15:10 PM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At least HiLlary isn’t a Tea Party racist.

/s


34 posted on 07/15/2010 3:16:45 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sheesh, this woman is like a bad rash, it just won’t go away!


35 posted on 07/15/2010 3:38:37 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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Wait ‘till the null set wins the primary...then in September, unload all of the evidence on ineligibility that hopefully, MOSSAD will provide.


36 posted on 07/15/2010 3:40:44 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

btt


37 posted on 07/15/2010 3:41:44 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Hugin

More like Robert Kennedy vs LBJ. The Kennedy clan absolutely hated LBJ.


38 posted on 07/15/2010 3:56:23 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Come on in, Hill. The water’s fine. You know you want to. Our candidate will wait patiently for you...


39 posted on 07/15/2010 4:14:38 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm so PRETTY!!!!

40 posted on 07/15/2010 4:38:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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