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Mitt, Obama neck-and-neck in new poll (Obama vs. Sarah 48 to 42% in this Rasmussen Poll)
The Deseret News / Rasmussen Reports ^ | July 20, 2009 | Lisa Riley Roche

Posted on 07/20/2009 4:07:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If voters get to choose between Republican Mitt Romney and Democratic President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, a new national poll suggests the race would be too close to call.

Both Romney and Obama had the support of 45 percent of respondents to a new Rasmussen Reports poll released Monday.

The public opinion polling company asked 1,000 likely voters nationwide on July 18-19 whether they would vote for Romney or Obama if the 2012 presidential election were held today.

The telephone survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.

Utah's top pollster, Dan Jones, said so early in the election cycle, such polls are "somewhat guesswork but it's still an indicator. I would be very surprised if we had an election and it would be that close."

Jones said the poll results say more about how Americans view Obama than a potential GOP challenger.

"It shows there are people who are discouraged with the (president's) economic package and especially with the direction America going," Jones said. Still, he said, the poll "will be very, very encouraging to the Romney people."

The results should give both Romney and the GOP a boost, said Kelly Patterson, the director of Brigham Young University's Center for the Study of Elections and Democracy.

"Gov. Romney can take a lot of heart from this because the Republican Party has gone through a very difficult stretch," Patterson said. "The fact that any Republican candidate is that close to Obama at this point is good news for the Republican Party."

And Romney, considered a "favorite son" candidate by Utahns because of his Mormon faith and leadership of the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, may be in an especially good position to take advantage of the GOP's well-publicized struggles.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Alaska; Massachusetts; Parties; Polls
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Remember, 2nd place is the first loser. Here they go trying to choose our nominee for us, again. Remind me how that worked out last time, will ya? I'm surprised Governor Palin did so well, especially since she's been the target of every Democrat, RINO, TV show, Hollywood actor, comic, presstitute and lefty blogger since Senator Mccain announced her as his running mate. When was the last time any of them attacked Governor Mitt Romney? What's the old WWII saying about "the flak being heaviest over the target" or whatnot?!
1 posted on 07/20/2009 4:07:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

James Carville (DNC): "It's a feel-good story, this Romney thing. Romney is an ascendant guy."

2 posted on 07/20/2009 4:12:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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The more I live with Obozo the better losers like Mitt Romney sound. He pretty much sucks but I’d take him in a heartbeat today.


3 posted on 07/20/2009 4:13:48 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ( How come when I press "1 for English" I still can't understand what's being said?)
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“Here they go trying to choose our nominee for us, again.”

In ‘08, we did a pretty good job ourselves of neutralizing the GOP candidate with the greatest chance of victory: RG.


4 posted on 07/20/2009 4:14:09 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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Here they go trying to choose our nominee for us, again.

Not a moment to waste. It's almost painful, the transparency.

5 posted on 07/20/2009 4:15:21 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Except that Romney won’t sniff a chance in the Republican primaries, so why even run the poll..............?


6 posted on 07/20/2009 4:15:31 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Meaningless poll designed to distact the people from the destruction the illegal Zero administration is causing.


7 posted on 07/20/2009 4:15:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would think about now a dog could beat Obama.


8 posted on 07/20/2009 4:16:29 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah 2012


9 posted on 07/20/2009 4:16:31 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You nailed it.


And any trained monkey could have done better than Mitt Brutus Romney, who got a "C" rating from CATO.
And that was BEFORE
Romney's Socialized medicine and coverup of the BIGdig kicked in. .
Note that the record also shows that Shapeshifter Romney also betrayed President Bush as Governor
(predicting what TeamROMNEY would do later in Election2008 to Gov. Palin, and every other GOP candidate).
Romney was against the conservative tax cuts.

Here are the facts from CATO.

"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.
* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.
"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.
In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."

[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]

10 posted on 07/20/2009 4:17:09 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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Wow, Palin hasn’t even announced yet and she is only 6 points behind? Interesting.

Mitt ins 2012 is our Dole and McCain. The Dems would love to see him win the nomination because they know the Republicans voters stay home and Dems win big.


11 posted on 07/20/2009 4:17:12 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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Bob Dole would NEVER have backstabbed like Romney.


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House,
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin.
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
He's in charge on November 5th.'"
The Prowler added: "Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
The Romney supporters in the McCain campaign had access to internal polling which indicated well in advance of the November 4 election that McCain had no chance to win.
So they began working to position their man Mitt for a run in 2012. Just two days after the election,The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
These aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
Erick Erickson, who organized Operation Leper, said:
"Here’s what I think: I think there are some staffers on the McCain campaign who seriously screwed up the roll out of Sarah Palin, to which Governor Palin herself objected.
These staffers are now out trying to finish her off thinking, as typical D.C. types do, that if they don’t do it to her, she’ll do it to them. They just never understood who Palin is or what she is about."
"Likewise, I do think there are some staffers and others who expect Mitt Romney to run again in 2012,
they decided McCain could not win, and decided to undermine Sarah Palin and her chances hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign? (Mark Wallace, Romney pimp)
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

12 posted on 07/20/2009 4:19:38 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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This article conveniently leaves out a little gem from the Rasmussen report (earlier thread on FR) that's the elephant in the room for the GOP:

32% of Republicans polled said that if Palin is not the nominee, she should run as an independent.

Beltway GOP, you've got a problem.

13 posted on 07/20/2009 4:21:29 PM PDT by Al B. (Dennis Miller on why he loves Sarah Palin: "She bugs all the right people")
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To: Buck W.

Huh? Am I having an attack of oldtimer’s disease? Who is RG?


14 posted on 07/20/2009 4:21:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I am Jim Thompson!!)
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Not this again.

Romney will never be the Republican nominee.

He is a liberal, look at his political record.

15 posted on 07/20/2009 4:22:00 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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Maybe Robert Godfrey?


16 posted on 07/20/2009 4:24:14 PM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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RG? Retired Greyhound?

Well I certainly would have done better than McCain, but I was pretty busy last year.


17 posted on 07/20/2009 4:24:59 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: truthandlife
Mitt and Obambi - two losers with health-care plans!

We are watching Mitt's fall apart in Mass. right now!

Obambi's plan must (God I Pray) fail to get out of Congress!

18 posted on 07/20/2009 4:25:01 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Tweedledee vs Tweedledum. Who cares? Not me.


19 posted on 07/20/2009 4:29:26 PM PDT by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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Palin would be my choice. She was the only thing good about 2008, but I don’t think she or Romney will be good POTUS candidates.

Will see if Jindal can pull it together, but I’m not liking the crop of GOP potential candidates at the moment.

Definitley no Reagans out there that I can see, unless Fred can muster up some energy somehow.


20 posted on 07/20/2009 4:30:04 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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