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Why This Evangelical Supports Fred Thompson (MUST READ!)
Red State ^ | October 6, 2007 | Ilja

Posted on 10/06/2007 5:51:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I tend to agree with one of our local talk show hosts who recently stated that while Rudy might be able to fool enough people during the primaries that he isn't all that liberal, you can bet when he goes up against Hillary she is going to make sure everybody knows his dirty little secret that most of the media including Fox News is trying to white-wash.

I am what is known as a Social Conservative. I voted for President George W. Bush twice and do not regret either vote even though he has disappointed me and even though I knew prior to both of my votes that he wasn't really all that Conservative.

I have a set of standards when it comes to deciding for whom to vote and while I consider abortion the slavery and Holocaust of our time, I care about other issues as well especially considering that we were attacked on September 11th, 2001. You see I have not forgotten.

I have a line that I will not cross when it comes to who can earn my vote and that line is someone who thinks it is okay to take the life of an innocent unborn baby. Therefore, Rudy Giuliani will not be getting my vote even if he does end up winning the Republican Presidential nomination.

I've been accused for ages now of being a one-issue voter because I will not cross this line but the truth be told, I care about a lot of different issues which is why even though Sam Brownback might be really strong on issues that concern most Social Conservatives, I never even considered supporting him seeing as he is weak on National Defense.

I've been told by other Social Conservatives that I should be supporting Mike Huckabee since after all he is a "real" Christian who attends Church regularly (of course he is a Pastor) and is for the Marriage Amendment declaring marriage to be between one man and one woman. I have also been told that there are certain issues that Christians should not compromise on and it was impllied that this is one of them.

Yet no one stops to explain just how this Amendment is going to be passed seeing as it can't even be brought up as a resolution since there is not enough support. It's not like adding an Amendment to the Constitution is done every day. It takes two-thirds of both houses of Congress to pass a resolution calling for an Amendment. Then it must be ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the States.

Either that or two-thirds of the States must vote to call for a convention where Constitutional Amendments can be proposed which would still require ratification by the legislatures of three-fourths of the States. This second option has actually never happened.

So I am suppose to use the support of this particular Marriage Amendment (which I do personally happen to like) as a litmus test for deciding which candidate I should support if I am being a "real" Christian? If I were to hold out for any Amendment it would be one to protect the lives of innocent unborn babies and even I, the queen of Naive don't have glasses that rosy.

Plus another issue that is important to me is illegal immigration and I'm afraid that I do not trust Mike Huckabee on this issue. He has tried to explain certain statements he has made about this issue but still the fact that he made them in the first place has me more than a little uneasy.

But the main reason I can't support Mike Huckabee is because barring some unforeseen circumstances he doesn't have a prayer of a chance in winning the Republican Presidential nomination and thanks to the media making Rudy Giuliani "America's Mayor" I don't have the luxury of being able to play around with my primary vote. You see people often say that it is in the primaries where you should support someone who is closest to your own views and then when it comes to the general election, you can vote for the lesser of the two evils.

Yet if the polls are correct and all of us Social Conservatives split our votes between the Conservative candidates then Rudy is naturally going to win the Republican nomination. The way I look at it is either I need to compromise a little now or I will have to compromise a lot later and I have no intention of voting for a Democrat-lite, thank you very much.

I keep hearing Social Conservatives say that they must stick to their guns and vote for a particular candidate in the primaries even though they acknowledge their candidate is not viable but then they will say that they will vote for Rudy if he ends up winning the nomination. This does not compute in my simple mind. Why would you want to support someone who doesn't have a chance, knowing that if you do the option of having to vote for someone who is so totally anathema to your beliefs will be your ultimate decision?

Besides, Fred Thompson even has a set of principles upon which he makes his decisions and it appears to me that these principles are the closest to our founding fathers than all of the other candidates combined.

I don't know about you but I want America back. I believe Fred Thompson is the only one who has a chance of taking us there.


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What she said!
1 posted on 10/06/2007 5:51:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did you post this to GOP Club? If so, why? It won’t get nearly as many views/replies unless posted under News/Activism. Just trying to help since you referred to it as “must read.”


2 posted on 10/06/2007 5:56:03 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

It’s from a blog, so I thought the rules prohibited posting to news/activism...


3 posted on 10/06/2007 5:59:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: jdm; All
FRed will be the Ronald Reagan for the 21st Century: Fred08 - Contribute Now
4 posted on 10/06/2007 6:06:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think only if the URL ends in either .blogspot.com or .wordpress.com.

Otherwise, it’s okay (I think).

So far, there’s five replies and we’re the only one’s posting to the thread!


5 posted on 10/06/2007 6:25:50 PM PDT by jdm
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FRed will be the Ronald Reagan for the 21st Century:

I support Fred, but he is no Ronald Reagan. I put him squarely in the middle of Bush and Reagan. Bush is actually a strong social conservative, possibly even stronger than Fred, but Fred is good enough on social issues and much stronger than Bush on smaller government conservatism and communication. Fred is not in the same league as Reagan when it comes to communication though.

6 posted on 10/06/2007 6:27:37 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Politicalmom; Jim Robinson; ejonesie22; Sturm Ruger

Ping!


7 posted on 10/06/2007 6:36:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...and thanks to the media making Rudy Giuliani "America's Mayor" I don't have the luxury of being able to play around with my primary vote.

This is a very, very important point! Unless conservatives want to have to hold their nose to vote for Rudy! - to keep Hillary! from winning - we had better start lining up behind a conservative candidate that can win.

I'm holding off to make a final judgment until I see Fred perform in a debate against the rest of the candidates, but unless he just completely botches it - I will have to make a serious decision to vote for Fred Thompson in the primary. I had planned to vote for Duncan Hunter, but I do not believe that he is going to get that much support & I don't want to throw my vote away & let Rudy get the nomination.

I can live with Fred, I might could even live with Mitt Romney - but let's face it - every vote for a second tier candidate is a vote that could have been used to defeat Rudy Guiliani. He only has so much core support, but it is still enough to keep him in 1st or 2nd place in most polls. HOWEVER - if all of the rest of us can think ahead enough to figure it out - there are more than enough of us to insure that Rudy will not be our nominee. After we get rid of him, I'm pretty sure we can beat the beast.

This strategy is not the one I wanted, but it's getting down to reality time now & we have to start sticking together if we want to win.

8 posted on 10/06/2007 6:51:39 PM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Secretary of Defense.)
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I am hoping for a Thompson/Hunter ticket,but if that does not happen, if Fred wins it and goes to the White house, I’ll be happy to have Hunter as Sec of Def.


9 posted on 10/06/2007 7:40:52 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: alicewonders

I am hoping for a Thompson/Hunter ticket,but if that does not happen, if Fred wins it and goes to the White house, I’ll be happy to have Hunter as Sec of Def.


10 posted on 10/06/2007 7:42:40 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Sorry about the double posting, the server is not working well tonight.


11 posted on 10/06/2007 7:43:53 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: jellybean; girlangler; KoRn; Shortstop7; Lunatic Fringe; Darnright; babygene; pitbully; granite; ...
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12 posted on 10/06/2007 8:03:54 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks - I agree with every word.


13 posted on 10/06/2007 8:10:09 PM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good article.


14 posted on 10/06/2007 8:11:38 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: alicewonders

Well said. We have to join together.


15 posted on 10/06/2007 8:16:39 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Ottofire; marinamuffy; flynmudd; twonie; Peace4EarthNow; Nightshift; WileyPink; ...

Baptist ping


16 posted on 10/06/2007 8:18:09 PM PDT by WKB (FDT= Alabama's song from1982 He's "Close Enough To Perfect For Me")
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To: sitetest

ilja is an excellent writer and and has a true heart. I’m proud to have shared some bandwidth with her over the past few years. With her kind permission, I cross-posted this essay on two of my own blogs. It deserves the widest possble readership.


17 posted on 10/06/2007 9:18:58 PM PDT by Josh Painter ( "Our government must be limited by the powers delegated to it by the Constitution." - Fred Thompson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent essay. Thanks for posting.

She has the same threshold that I have. The one line that I will not cross. Rudy Giuliani doesn’t just cross that line, he stomps on it.


18 posted on 10/06/2007 9:39:56 PM PDT by Shelayne (NO running or relenting until the problem has been dealt with-decisively,systematically,permanently.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Intelligent article and my feelings exactly.


19 posted on 10/06/2007 9:42:43 PM PDT by Grunthor (If you are going to tell a quarter of your base to get lost, you SHOULD lose.)
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To: alicewonders

“I had planned to vote for Duncan Hunter, but I do not believe that he is going to get that much support & I don’t want to throw my vote away & let Rudy get the nomination.”

God bless you.


20 posted on 10/06/2007 9:45:36 PM PDT by Grunthor (If you are going to tell a quarter of your base to get lost, you SHOULD lose.)
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