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Please update me on Ala. 10 commandments?
Posted on 08/25/2003 5:34:41 AM PDT by hapy
I have been gone and unable to follow it this weekend. Is it true what I heard about
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moving the monumet to a different part of the court house? Has any of us attended the protest?
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posted on
08/25/2003 5:34:42 AM PDT
by
hapy
To: hapy
Judge Moore has been suspended. The monument will be moved. Where? I don't know. There is a group of people peacefully protesting it, but the judges and politicians are determined that there shall be no other gods than them.
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posted on
08/25/2003 5:40:45 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: hapy
I think the monument is still up, but Roy Moore has been suspended.
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posted on
08/25/2003 5:41:07 AM PDT
by
LionsDaughter
(This space for rent.)
To: hapy
Judge Moore was suspended by a panel of judges and the monument will be "moved". The definition of "moved" has not come out, but the speculation is that the state can meet the court order requirements by moving the monument to another part of the capitol building, out of public view.
I imagine they will wait til the furor dies down a little and then it will be moved quietly in the middle of the night.
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posted on
08/25/2003 5:42:51 AM PDT
by
Timeout
To: Timeout
There are many writings on that monument besides the ten commandments. Can someone print ALL the text on that monument?
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posted on
08/25/2003 5:46:08 AM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(God Bless Our Troops!!)
To: Timeout
If they move it to another part of the building that would be a huge win win win for us!
Why is nobody talking about it?
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:02:18 AM PDT
by
hapy
To: Blood of Tyrants
Judge Moore has been suspended. The monument will be moved.Since this is happening because ignorant people might be offended by these commandments and there is some contrived separation between church and state it is time again we make a choice in this country...
Liberty
To: Sacajaweau
I'd like to see it, too... for all the talk about this, I'm surprised the content of the monument itself has not gotten much attention.
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:04:31 AM PDT
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: hapy
Jackals 10, Christians 0.
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:05:57 AM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: Sacajaweau
Good question.
Some of what I've seen has to do w/ The Declaration Of Independence.
To: hapy
At church, opinions vary on Ten Commandments in court
By Mark Niesse
Associated Press
08-25-2003
MONTGOMERY
Churchgoers weighed in after Sunday services on the battle over the Ten Commandments monument, which has been ordered removed from the Alabama Judicial Building.
Most people, wearing their Sunday best, said they believed the 5,300-pound monument makes an important statement bringing religion to the forefront and breaking down laws to keep God out of public life.
But many argued that Chief Justice Roy Moore should abide by his oath to respect the rule of law and obey a federal court order to haul the washing-machine sized display of the commandments from the building that houses the Alabama Supreme Court.
More than 100 demonstrators prepared Sunday for the possibility the marker would be removed early Monday morning as the business week began. State officials have not signaled when, where or how they will move the commandments.
"It could happen this evening, or tomorrow morning," said Steven Hopkins, a minister from Burnet Bible Church in Texas. "There is a national call out to families and Christians all over the country to come to Montgomery and support the word of God."
The issue has torn the consciences of Christians who cant decide which law to respect the law of God that Moore says hes upholding or the rules of the American legal system?
Tanya McLemore, carrying a Bible and wearing a gleaming cross on a necklace, said Moore is doing the right thing by following his beliefs.
"A man stood up for what is right, and hes taking a lot of criticism," said McLemore before the 11 a.m. Sunday service at First Baptist Church in downtown Montgomery. "But the Ten Commandments are the basis of our law and our government. Its important to know where we came from."
To some, the monument needs to be in the rotunda of the court building to give a statement about the primacy of Gods law and to reform a society in a state of decay because it doesnt have widespread support of a higher power.
"If it werent for God, we wouldnt have this country now," said Adam Taft, a 20-year-old carrying a worn Bible into Ridgecrest Baptist Church. "I feel strongly about it its the right thing to do."
At Frazer Memorial United Methodist Church, worshippers said they want the Ten Commandments in public life, but they had reservations about the way Moore has handled the situation.
Moore, himself a Southern Baptist, had the monument installed in the dead of night on July 31, 2001, and he has resisted all attempts to have it removed despite losing court battles at all levels and being suspended with pay Friday.
"It was forced down our throats. This has taken the focus off of God and put it on a man," said Debbie Stack outside Frazer.
Joann Mitchell said she wants to support the principles of the Ten Commandments, but a state courthouse isnt the place to make a religious statement.
"I dont think he should have put it there in the first place. Thats why they made a provision for the separation of church and state," she said.
Outside Sunday school at First Baptist, Greg Palmer agreed with Moores argument that the Ten Commandments are appropriate in government because they form the basis for the Constitution and the entire American legal system.
"Its important to know where we came from," Palmer said. "I dont think the monument is forcing religion on anyone."
Moore has pledged to argue his case to the U.S. Supreme Court, and a citizens group plans to file a federal lawsuit Monday in Mobile claiming their First Amendment rights are being violated by the monuments pending removal.
Outside the Judicial Building, supporters of the monument talked, read Bibles and gave interviews to a dozens of media despite the 93 degree heat.
"I may not know all the legal issues, but this is what our country was founded on. This is our heritage, and we cant deny that," said Jenny Graber, a teacher who drove to the courthouse from Lillian near the Florida border. "We may not be able to change anything, but we had to take a stand."
Sunday night, an unidentified man scaled metalwork covering the tall windows on the front of the judicial building and sat on a ledge about 50 feet above ground. Police were forced to try and remove him.
From:
http://www.annistonstar.com/news/2003/as-state-0825-0-3h24w2852.htm www.annistonstar.com (The Anniston, AL newspaper) has been keeping uptodate with this story and has had an article about it everyday this week.
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:09:39 AM PDT
by
honeygrl
To: hapy
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:10:14 AM PDT
by
Aquamarine
(When you come close to sellin' out reconsider.)
To: hapy
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:10:51 AM PDT
by
boxerblues
(God Bless the 101st, stay safe, stay alert and watch your backs)
To: honeygrl
"I dont think he should have put it there in the first place. Thats why they made a provision for the separation of church and state," she said.Who made what provision sugar? Frog soup.
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:11:58 AM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: hapy
To: jwalsh07
I just cant stop laughing at your come back.
OMG it is just too funny
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:22:07 AM PDT
by
hapy
To: hapy
Judge Moore has been removed from the equation. The blood is now on the heads of his associates (who dumped him) plus the federal judge, plus (probably) the Supremes, at least 5 of whom will rule that the display is "unconstitional" despite the fact the the Ten Commandments are chiseled into their own work place.
To: jwalsh07
"I dont think he should have put it there in the first place. Thats why they made a provision for the separation of church and state," she said.This is not about the rule of law. This is about ignornant people who can not even think for themselves and want things to go their way even if it means ignoring and twisting certain aspects of the law.
I have a pile of rocks in my front yard that knows more about the constitution than many judges in this country.
To: sirchtruth
I couldn't agree more. Most frogs actually enjoy the slow boil, it makes them feel warm and fuzzy.
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posted on
08/25/2003 6:33:59 AM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: Sloth
I've see the top of the monument and the "book" layout. There is carving on the two sides that I can see. I believe there is carving on all 4 sides from viewing another picture a couple days back. Someone call a Clerk in Alabama.
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posted on
08/25/2003 11:57:37 AM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(God Bless Our Troops!!)
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