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Sons/daughters of the "rich" and politicians in military?

Posted on 08/16/2003 3:51:25 PM PDT by Susannah

Some liberal friends like to tell me about how the "rich" and politicians kids always escape military service/wars.

I would like some examples to disprove this.


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1 posted on 08/16/2003 3:51:26 PM PDT by Susannah
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To: Susannah
So are your friends saying liberal politicians are elitist as well?
2 posted on 08/16/2003 3:54:39 PM PDT by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
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To: Susannah
Al Gore? LOL!


3 posted on 08/16/2003 3:58:06 PM PDT by TheDon (Why do liberals always side with the enemies of the US?)
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To: Susannah
Since we've had an all volunteer military for quite some time, I don't even see how it's an issue now. I can understand how someone with more lucrative opportunities might not want to go into the military. Ask your lib friends why they haven't volunteered for service.
4 posted on 08/16/2003 4:03:26 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Susannah
What do you want to know? Honorable service and worried parents cross all tax brackets. I know.
5 posted on 08/16/2003 4:05:28 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: Susannah
Hmmm...Kind of a short list you've got going here...
6 posted on 08/16/2003 4:05:44 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Susannah
If they are Liberals, they are not really your friends.
When the chips are down they will turn on you.

So9

7 posted on 08/16/2003 4:06:36 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Susannah
There was a study done of people who served in Vietnam. I used to have a copy. I don't know if it's still around. In any case, the study concluded that men from "wealthy" communities served to the same extent as did those in "poor" communities.

I recall that during the Vietnam war liberal politicians condemned those like me who had college deferments. We were the alleged "rich" who were escaping the draft. Neither I nor any of my college friends were rich. Moreover, a significant number of us went on to serve full careers in the military. At my college class's 50th reunion earlier this summer, I was surprised to find how many of my classmates had entered the Air Force the same time I did, and retired about the same time I did.

It's simply not true that the "poor" are disproprtionately represented in the military. Most of the "poor" are rejected for health or education reasons.

8 posted on 08/16/2003 4:08:52 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: Susannah
Al Gore, Jr., Charlie Sheen, Emilio Estevez for starters.
9 posted on 08/16/2003 4:09:16 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Susannah
Well, the only ones I can think of are JFK and his brother Joe, Jr. who was killed in service; also a descendant of Teddy Roosevelt was part of the invasion of Normandy I believe.

There was also a piece that appeared earlier this year, I think about an upper-class type fellow whose son was going into the military. I know that's not much to go on, but maybe others will remember it in more detail. It was rather good as I recall. I think the author may have been a college professor or somesuch.
10 posted on 08/16/2003 4:09:27 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Susannah
The rich, famous, and well-connected can always escape military service or - more telling - dangerous military service if they want to.

They don't always want to. Some families and individuals see a need to be honorable, to test their courage, to serve their country.

Most famous are the Kennedys and Bushes during WWII...and Theodore Roosevelt a half-century earlier. Although I'm not current I'm sure the tradition continues.

Beware, though that you will not find exactly what you're looking for. Honorable behavior and strong character do not follow party lines or ideology. Take a look at which movie people exposed themselves to danger during WWII and which didn't - keeping in mind that it was their choice.

11 posted on 08/16/2003 4:11:29 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Susannah
George S. Patton III came from a wealthy California family.
12 posted on 08/16/2003 4:13:30 PM PDT by Archangelsk (Schwarzenegger said he was "embarrassed" by independent counsel Kenneth Starr's investigation.)
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To: Archangelsk
His son went on to become a distinguished general as well.
13 posted on 08/16/2003 4:16:50 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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I remember that piece - the son of two professors who had been anti-war activists in the Viet Nam era and were against our current policies...but they whole-heartedly supported their son's choice, despite their fears.
14 posted on 08/16/2003 4:16:58 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Archangelsk
And there were the MacArthurs.
15 posted on 08/16/2003 4:17:51 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Susannah
Bill Clinton is an example of a non wealthy leftist who avoided military service.
16 posted on 08/16/2003 4:20:03 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: jocon307
Well, the only ones I can think of are JFK and his brother Joe, Jr. who was killed in service; also a descendant of Teddy Roosevelt was part of the invasion of Normandy I believe.

Don't forget GHW Bush; the youngest Naval flyer in WWII.

You have named some well-known men who served in the military. There are probably thousands from "rich" families who are not celebrties or well-known.

Remember, to a Liberal a "rich" person is one who has two nickels to rub together--an entire different meaning than to conservatives.

17 posted on 08/16/2003 4:22:54 PM PDT by lonestar (Weinie for California Governor!)
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To: Susannah
I heard of this guy, George Walker Bush. He was in the National Guard and flew jets. His dad became the president of the united states, and come to think of it, so did he.
18 posted on 08/16/2003 4:24:31 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (a 'true conservative' would rather keep Davis than elect Arnold just so they can say 'I told you so')
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To: Susannah; Admin Moderator
This is very serious topic which gets to the heart of many lies perpetuated about the wealthy and conservatives. The idea that you would move it to chat is absolutely preposterous.
19 posted on 08/16/2003 4:28:00 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const tag& thisTagWontChange)
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To: Susannah
Click my profile. My family wasn't "rich" in monetary terms but for the last 7 generations we've defended this great nation. None were conscripted. All volunteered. That has translated into intangible and phenomenal wealth for the entire extended family.
20 posted on 08/16/2003 4:30:06 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Reuters:A wholly owned subsidiary of the Left - We distort, You comply.)
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