John Birch Society on FOX, William Norman Grigg on Fox News Network

01.10.03

[Coleus]

Will Grigg, Senior Editor of The New American magazine, is scheduled for a live appearance in the first half of the Fox News program "From the Heartland" on Saturday, January 11, 2003 at 8 p.m. Eastern Time on the issue of immigration. This is a great opportunity to introduce others to The John Birch Society.

A good one to buy and keep--Post-Roe America http://www.thenewamerican.com/current_issue/

Read The New American's past coverage of immigration at: http://www.thenewamerican.com/focus/immigration/

John McManus on C-SPAN2

C-SPAN2 is re-broadcasting John McManus' talk on the William F. Buckley, Jr. book. It is scheduled to be broadcast this Saturday from 11 a.m. to noon Eastern Time.

Be sure to tune in tomorrow and forward this information on to others!

[LibTeeth]

I'd like to hear your theory(s) on what motivates the 'left'. Please elaborate or post some links.

As to the 'sinister motives' projection problem you alluded to in your earlier reply to me, I've always thought left-handed folks were rather sinister in their manipulations, but then again, I'm a rather dexterous fellow myself.

[CyberCowboy777]

My Third way comments are based in fact.

They have nothing to do with Government conspiracies or black helicopters.

You have made assumptions and dismissed statements so you could get your jollies with some JBS member. You hit on keywords and missed the point.

My statements concerning the aspirations of some on the left are nor more wild than the same statements made by Rush or Goldberg or most Freepers.

[CyberCowboy777]

I'd like to hear your theory(s) on what motivates the 'left'. Please elaborate or post some links.

I would too. He does not seem to think that the left is Fascist or at least Socialist.

[CyberCowboy777]

Maybe he feels the U.N. is a benign suggestive organization without any power or alliances?

[LibTeeth]

'Hard to say what he really thinks. His links are good counter-point, but his own considered opinion sounds thin to me. Who knows how he defines the left. Lobbing grenades is easy, but after a while everyone goes deaf, and under the smoke the ground is rougher than before.

I find the other 'c-word' consensus better defines a lot of behavior than the loaded word conspiracy. I doubt Dan Rather and Brokaw phone each other up before the evening news and decide on a spin and story order. But if you turn the 3 networks on at the same time, you'll see what appears to be a designed, orchestrated spin on daily affairs. They don't have to conspire, they have the same cultural consensus and corrupt world view. Of course, there are some good conspiratorial underpinnings to the engineering of consensus, and the softening of positional minds, but that's been covered here before. Since _Jim thinks we're Birchers, we can just wink and keep that topic our little secret.

[CyberCowboy777]

I also doubt any great conspiracy of the left. I do see a "belief" system the tends them in the same general direction.

My point to _Jim was that though I do not see black helicopters and multimillionaire \ corrupt politician takeovers; I do see a ideology that poses a threat to my way of life.

That threat will come from organizations like the U.N. and people in power that long for a "Third Way".

[Jhoffa_]

I am honestly not familiar with them..

I just wondered why the name inspired so much anger here on FR.

Honestly, I was given to believe they were a Goldwater era thing that had long since died out.

[Coleus]

Yes, their books are great. Two of my favorite authors who have no connection to the Birch people are John A. Stormer and Martin L. Gross

[Coleus]

Huh?

Are you kidding?

I think you've got them confused with the masons regarding secret handshakes,etc.

[Coleus]

Your links do not show how the US Govt. survived for 140 years without the Federal Reserve. Who owns the federal reserve?

[Coleus]

Freepers, 2nd Amendment Sisters and Birch People TOGETHER at the UN protesting against GUN Control and getting us out of the UN!!!! Even the Boy Scouts were there. No Black Helicopters. Do NOT believe all the vitriol on this thread and I hope you do watch and tape the two shows.

http://www.freepressforum.com/MISC/010714.NYC.UN.Rally/Pics.htm

http://pages.cthome.net/steveandjessie/

http://trt-ny.org/home.html

They are very much alive. Many people won't admit to read the New American Magazine but they do. I know of one of my assemblywomen in the district next to me who reads the New American and the Washington Times Weekly Edition. I guess the Wash. Times is bad too. Too conservative for Freepers.

http://www.jbs.org/
http://www.thenewamerican.com/
http://www.trimonline.org/
http://www.aobs-store.com/
http://www.getusout.org/

The Get Us out Campaign is their latest venture and is very positive. I think all conservatives can agree on that. I have yet to meet a conservative who likes the UN.


http://www.lifesite.net/waronfamily/unicef/

[Coleus]

It's just like Bush 41 always stating, the New World Order.

[RaceBannon]

I agree, I am willing to bet that 99% of those sightings were by people who never saw a helicopter up close in real life, and were standing in light that was a sillouette.

That, or the paint job was a darker green, almost black I have seen some Army versions have. Real faded olive

[RaceBannon]

from their picture site:

http://www.freepressforum.com/MISC/010714.NYC.UN.Rally/pages/DSC00033.htm

that is MY picture!! These are from MY camera!!

These were posted HERE on this site, these people took our pictures and posted them on their own site!!

[Coleus]

Yea, I guess so, who are those people who own that link, the free press and do you know the free republic link where you posted those pictures? I tried to find the link and could not. I believe that event was sponsored by the TRT.

[Coleus]

Yes, and I think there is a US Army, Special Forces Unit called DELTA, which also uses those types of helicopters for military use.

[RaceBannon]

I am thinking now, that someone asked me if they could post it, I have a small memory of that. I had them on some other site, cannot remember now where, but the picture of that young woman singing the national anthem, I met her, that is my shot that day!

[Coleus]

I remember that lady interviewing you, I think she worked for the NRA? or some other 2nd-amendment affiliate? Did she ever air her interview with you or put it on a VHS?

[Coleus]

Don't forget if you missed the show, FOX usually repeats their weekend shows after midnight and on Sunday.

[Coleus]

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