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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Journey to the Cross-roads

The Two Towers Edition

Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)

Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.


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To: ksen
LOL! - I don't know how you did it.... but you made me laugh!
11,101 posted on 02/01/2003 10:15:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen

11,102 posted on 02/01/2003 10:15:52 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: All
Nasa Press conference thread
11,103 posted on 02/01/2003 10:17:01 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: 2Jedismom
;^)
11,104 posted on 02/01/2003 10:17:48 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Bear, is the local news seeing any pieces of the shuttle of any size at all?

Yes, reports of pieces as big as 4 feet in size. To us, the best coverage so far has been CBS; Gunga Dan has been in his chair since about 9:30 central time or so, and they've been getting a lot of info from the Texas affiliates. Dan, being from Texas, helps in that area I'm sure.

I think it will be very difficult to know for sure what happened. But, I have a sick feeling that it may turn into a major scandal for NASA. Just speculation on my part, and I do admit to being a tinfoilist.

I don't think many folks will take stuff home; lots of space-related industry in East Texas, where much of the debris has come down.

11,105 posted on 02/01/2003 10:17:55 AM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (Just sad)
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To: HairOfTheDog
.... but you made me laugh!

I'm glad for that. It helps to get through days like this.

11,106 posted on 02/01/2003 10:19:25 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Bear...I know what you mean. When the Challenger went down, it was the worst thing that anyone could remember, since what? Kennedy was shot?

Then the horror of 9/11. Nothing can compare to that.

The thing that upsets me about this, is this was our best and our brightest. They worked so hard to get where they were. Very sad.

But I suspect it was an accident. No attack. It's a different feeling, nothing compared to 9/11. That was a mixture of sadness, rage, and especially horror.
11,107 posted on 02/01/2003 10:20:05 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: 2Jedismom
But I suspect it was an accident. No attack.

I agree with you, but I bet we still have some very happy enemies today.

11,108 posted on 02/01/2003 10:21:40 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
NASA wants to know what happened here more than any of us. Lets pray they don't have to waste their energy defending themselves against unfair hindsight.

I am glad they are finding some sizable pieces.
11,109 posted on 02/01/2003 10:25:48 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
What a tragic day :-(

That was one of the worst mornings I can remember, turning on the TV from bed to see what was up in the world.

11,110 posted on 02/01/2003 10:28:30 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: 2Jedismom
it was the worst thing that anyone could remember, since what? Kennedy was shot?

Yes, pretty much... it was the first major disaster that I could remember happening. I was too young to know anything about the RFK and MLK assassinations (I was only 4 in 1968).

I think it was an accident as well; what I am afraid of is that it may have been preventable. I think the only way it could have been terrorism is if someone snuck a bomb on board before takeoff; very unlikely.

11,111 posted on 02/01/2003 10:28:42 AM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (Just sad)
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To: HairOfTheDog; 2Jedismom
See?
11,112 posted on 02/01/2003 10:41:50 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: ksen
Good Lord.... Well, if it was real, it is gone now.
11,113 posted on 02/01/2003 10:43:25 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
Been removed. Someone's on the ball with Ebay. I hope they investigate the lousy scum.
11,114 posted on 02/01/2003 10:44:20 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; Scott from the Left Coast
Scott said this on another thread, and it is spot-on....

Too easily people get lulled into thinking that technology is routine. With efforts as complex as this, you always walk shoulder-to-shoulder with disaster.

Tough are the soles that tread the knife's edge.

11,115 posted on 02/01/2003 10:45:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
They are saying that we cannot put the shuttles on hold this time like we did after the Challenger because we have people in the space station whose lives depend on those shuttles flying.
11,116 posted on 02/01/2003 10:51:34 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: ksen
They have a launch scheduled for March.

Can only hope they can figure this out to enough of a degree by then.
11,117 posted on 02/01/2003 10:53:57 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
Putting the shuttles on hold would, IMO, be a really bad idea even if there weren't astronauts. They need to make sure things are as safe as can be... but we can't give up here.
11,118 posted on 02/01/2003 10:54:23 AM PST by JenB
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To: ksen
You watching the people with the dog wandering around that smoking patch of ground? - People are not gonna stay away. I wouldn't.
11,119 posted on 02/01/2003 10:55:14 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: JenB
Thank you for posting the quote from "The Green Hills of Earth". I was thinking of that myself while I was away from the keyboard, watching the news reports.
11,120 posted on 02/01/2003 10:56:09 AM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (Just sad)
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