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Frustrated Prosecutor Dusek Swats At Final Bug Expert: Westerfield's Soon Will BUG The Jury....
Court TV ^ | August 2, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 08/01/2002 10:25:00 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: cyncooper
Bummer. I see you found that the transcripts have been posted to the signonsandiego site. I was just getting ready to go to sleep. Oh well, maybe if I skip the bug testimony and just read today's it will help put me to sleep....
341 posted on 08/02/2002 9:18:46 PM PDT by clearvision
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
More mummy talk? Oh, no, no, no. (banging head against computer) Let's just get the show on the road. I could handle Feldi's 30-45 minute direct, but the 6 hour cross. I'll kill myself, well no I won't, I' just have to go to Starbucks to recover. Up for it Kimmie?
342 posted on 08/02/2002 9:19:54 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: cyncooper
The judge either changed his mind or a witness did not testify that was supposed to.
343 posted on 08/02/2002 9:27:21 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
I agree that the way the wording went the other day it DID sound as if there had been a witness with a conviction of some sort. At any rate, no.

But there is the "admitted untruthfulness" aspect of today's comments to hash over!

344 posted on 08/02/2002 9:31:28 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
That is confusing. The other day the judge made another statement about that

2.13. WE'VE HAD PRIOR CONSISTENT AND INCONSISTENT TESTIMONY BY BOTH HIMS AND HERS, SO 2.13 WILL BE GIVEN IN ITS ENTIRETY.

345 posted on 08/02/2002 9:40:15 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Krodg
That would be referring to the "admitted untruthfullness" you think? I agree, confusing, but evidently the lawyers know who they're talking about.

I wonder if the judge gives the instructions, then during closing the lawyers point out the "who" and the "what" as it refers to untruthfulness.

346 posted on 08/02/2002 9:48:54 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
The single biggest point Desek made against Dr. Hall:

Q. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A LAWYER?
A. FIVE YEARS.
Q. AND YOU'VE TESTIFIED SINCE YOU'VE BECOME A LAWYER?
A. YES, I HAVE.
347 posted on 08/02/2002 10:05:59 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: cyncooper
I been searching the Hall testimony for the supposed Dusek gotchya, but I can't find it. What are these TV experts talking about that Dusek got Hall to agree with him about 2/2-2/3?
348 posted on 08/02/2002 10:09:32 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Krodg
WE'VE HAD PRIOR CONSISTENT AND INCONSISTENT TESTIMONY BY BOTH HIMS AND HERS

Do you think that is directed at Damon and Brenda ? The whole case might go into the trash-bin.

349 posted on 08/02/2002 10:19:58 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: John Jamieson
The OJ trial has caused many arguments in my extended family. Years ago I tried to get out of an abusive relationship and was stalked and then kidnapped. He brought me back and stood trial. The jury found him guilty of intimidation?? A yr and a half later, he ran my car of the road and stabbed me and I almost died. At that time I actually felt pity for the first jury. They went with what was presented to them, not what I knew to be true. When the OJ trial came up everyone screamed 'He's Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!!!'. It was hard for my family to understand that my teenage daughters and I still wanted proof. I'm not sure I understand either, except I still believe in 'innocent until proven guilty'. Someone else could have ran my car off the road that morning, but people were still going to look at the person who stalked me. Someone else could have killed Nichole, but they were sure of OJ. There has to be proof.
350 posted on 08/02/2002 10:21:02 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: cyncooper
I think the lawyers will try to point out the untruths but I'm not sure what will be allowed in. I'm not sure the lawyers have quite the free reign in closing that many people think they do.
351 posted on 08/02/2002 10:25:56 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: dread78645
I wish it would go in the toilet, but I don't think Mudd will flush it. But anyway, why stop at Brenda and Damon? There are many hims, hers, he, she, it and dogs to choose from. Everyone is doing a 180 Frank on this one.
352 posted on 08/02/2002 10:33:42 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: demsux
Maybe she HAD gotten into the motorhome...like when she went over the gate. THAT would have really PO'ed Damon, make him want it outta there.

That was my first thought when I heard of the MH having to be moved. I know as a kid my parents had a MH and every kid that saw it wanted to see inside.
Can you think of a better place to hide during hide 'n' seek? Especially if your younger brother is playing and wouldn't even think about you being in there? I mean they have that neat one way glass inside and you can look out at all your friends looking for you.
Now, if mom and dad found out about it cause brother ratted on you they would want MH out of there in the worst way but wouild not want to admit to not watching their kids.

353 posted on 08/02/2002 10:35:07 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: alexandria
I hope that you're right and they had at least that much concern for their darlins. I sure wish there was something to support that.
354 posted on 08/02/2002 10:38:40 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Krodg
Very well put.
355 posted on 08/02/2002 10:39:43 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Krodg
It's not exactly concern for their kids that would motivate this decision. It's laziness and irresponsibility.
The VD's think about it this way, we've told them they are not supposed to go on/into other peoples property but they did it anyway. What to do so this dosen't happen again? Get rid of MH.
So instaed of watching the child more closely and being consistant with punishment when they break the rules they remove the temptation. Also it's concern for theirselves that motivates the VD's, no MH, no worries, and no extra time kidwatching.
356 posted on 08/02/2002 10:49:34 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: Krodg
But anyway, why stop at Brenda and Damon?

I don't. Denise Kemal has obviously lied (the testimony), Damon & Brenda probably did (the delay and shifting times). Keith S. and Rich B. back up the lies.
Notice a pattern here ?

Pizza and dope makes you commit perjury !

(and drugs support terrorists)

357 posted on 08/02/2002 10:52:46 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: John Jamieson
You're very informed about this case. Do you think we will ever know who did it? I'm not convinced Westerfield is the guilty one. It's not up to the defense to find the murderer but no one is looking elsewhere, right? LE has their man. If Westerfield is found not guilty and no one else is charged, his life is mostly ruined. Better than being executed of course but a shame for someone that probably was just minding his own business. Hope you're still on here tonight. Thanks....
358 posted on 08/02/2002 10:53:35 PM PDT by I. Ben Hurt
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To: the Deejay
Let me guess. Kinda like the mouth on Chelsea C.?

Chelsea has always had her father's mouth. I recommend you compare side by side photos of Chelsea and Janet Reno.
359 posted on 08/02/2002 10:54:05 PM PDT by pyx
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To: All
I been studying the bugmen's calculations, comparing one with another. As we progressed from one to another each took into consideration MORE possible temperature sets, MORE experimental tests results from MORE researches and became MORE conservative in using the magot mass corrections. Each time the range of possible egg deposition became a little wider.

Making the corrections for Goff's minor math errors, makes little difference in his conclusions. Each man tried to do a better job of widening the interval to see if the prosecution's theory of the crime could work, and yet all concluded that it COULD NOT.

I think ALL were intellicually honest and each felt a serious need to do the job right. My hat's off to them for their hard work and clear thinking. Anyone of them that could have made Dusek's case would have a job testifing for the prosecution for the rest of their lives. They applied the science as best it could be done and all came to the same conclusion. DW couldn't have done it alone.
360 posted on 08/02/2002 10:56:16 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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