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ESPN/USA Today Coaches' Poll(College Football-almost here-Big 12 dominates!)
ESPN/USA Today ^ | 8/1/02 | Several dozen university sports interns and swarthy sports reporters

Posted on 08/01/2002 3:53:32 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat

Rank, name, # of 1st place votes, 2001 record, # of total votes.

1. Miami (Fla.) (34) 12-0 1,444

2. Texas (9) 11-2 1,399

3. Oklahoma (11) 11-2 1,397

4. Florida State (7) 8-4 1,357

5. Tennessee 11-2 1,255

6. Colorado 10-3 1,010

7. Florida 10-2 972

8. Nebraska 11-2 951

9. Washington 8-4 914

10. Michigan 8-4 894

11. Georgia 8-4 858

12. Ohio State 7-5 761

13. LSU 10-3 749

14. Washington State 10-2 748

15. Oregon 11-1 663

16. Virginia Tech 8-4 550

17. Louisville 11-2 378

18. Michigan State 7-5 371

19. Southern California 6-6

20. Maryland 10-2 315

21. Marshall 11-2 280

22. South Carolina 9-3 213

23. Wisconsin 5-7 210

24. Penn State 5-6 206

25. N.C. State 7-5 174

Others receiving votes: Texas A&M (158), Auburn (150), UCLA (114), Kansas State (110), Boston College (85), Brigham Young (84), Georgia Tech (70), Syracuse (66), Illinois (55), Oregon State (54), Clemson (46), Purdue (45), Utah (44), Fresno State (42), Mississippi (41), Arkansas (40), Colorado State (39), Southern Mississippi (23), Iowa State (22), Stanford (21), Notre Dame (18), Hawaii (14), Arizona (12), Iowa (11), Texas Tech (11), Boise State (7), Pittsburgh (7), North Carolina (4), Toledo (4), Virginia (3), Minnesota (2), West Virginia (2), Louisiana Tech (1), UNLV (1), Wake Forest (1).


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Ok, here's the first earnings statement for the Enron/Worldcom/Global Crossing/Citigroup of sports, Division I college football's poll and BCS system. BCS has fine-tuned its accounting interpretations for this year, removing margin of victory from their calculations. So instead of partially factoring in a team's relative strength, it is now increasinly ignored in the formula(who needs to know if one's sales booked as earnings were actually to shell companies? Why should it matter if A&M can barely beat McNeese State while Colorado pounds Nebraska. Details, details, always getting in the way.) Actually one can argue that since all wins are more equal, than this will increase running up the score this year, as teams will need to do more to differentiate themselves and impress the pollsters in fighting for those 2 elusive playoff slots.

With that top ranking starting out, all Miami has to do is run the tables in the Big Least to get in. More bogus crap about how you can't penalize a team that is number 1 all season and did what was asked of them, even if stronger more impressive teams emerge from power conferences like the Big 12 and SEC.

Is this the year the bubble finally bursts on the embarrassing fraud of a beauty contest they use to proclaim a mythical national champion? Here's hoping so, only a playoff will do.

1 posted on 08/01/2002 3:53:32 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Tough schedule awaits No. 1 Miami



By Kirk Herbstreit
Special to ESPN.com


Following its national championship season and returning so many starters, Miami is deserving as the top-ranked team in the ESPN/USA Today preseason coaches' poll. It's amazing to think the Hurricanes had five players picked in the first round of the NFL Draft, yet they are still the nation's No. 1 team.

Until a game is played, the Hurricanes should be No. 1, but they face a long stretch. Not only will they be marked as the reigning champions, but they also will be playing the toughest non-conference schedule I have ever seen, including games at Tennessee, at Florida and at home against Florida State.

There are four Big 12 teams in the top eight, and Kansas State and Texas A&M will end up spending time in the top 25 as well. Within the last year or so, the Big 12 is finally emerging as a premier conference. The conference has a lot of depth, one with both top 10 teams and some ranked in the top 25 or close to it.

Everybody feels there are five teams -- on paper -- that are a cut above every oter team, and they are the teams ranked in the preseason top five: Miami, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State and Tennessee. And each of the five has a game against another top-five team -- Florida State plays Miami, Miami plays Tennessee and Oklahoma plays Texas.

Mark Oct. 12 on your calendar -- the Oklahoma-Texas and Florida State-Miami matchups come on the same day. Both games will be marquee matchups and have big national championship implications.

It will be interesting to see which teams survive and whether or not there will be an unbeaten team at the end of the season. I would be surprised if there were more than one unbeaten team.


2 posted on 08/01/2002 5:57:15 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
A&M out of the 25? HAHAHAHAHA what a crock
3 posted on 08/01/2002 7:40:58 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
I know, just shows the bogusacity of polls. My guess is A&M got squeezed in the move to have a balance of teams around the country represented. Some snotty-nosed towel-washer at Syracuse probably got to submit the coach's vote, so after he voted for the top 10 contenders and all his conference and regional teams, didn't have room for teams like A&M.

Then again, letting McNeese State nearly beat you can really knock down the respect factor.
4 posted on 08/01/2002 8:36:43 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
:-P
5 posted on 08/01/2002 8:56:44 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Looks like teams in the South dominate, bub. As usual. Say, how's that new Hukd Ahn Foniks Graduate program doing at Nebraska?
6 posted on 08/02/2002 4:21:40 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Texaggie79
They always play spolier anyhow. Hope they wipe the mat with Cornhusker slime :)
7 posted on 08/02/2002 4:22:37 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Is this the year the bubble finally bursts on the embarrassing fraud of a beauty contest they use to proclaim a mythical national champion? Here's hoping so, only a playoff will do.

Any doubt that the BcS is a sham was erased last year when Nebraska managed to sneak into the Rose Bowl over Oregon. Would the Ducks have beaten Miami? It's doubtful, but they sure as hell would have given the Canes a better fight than the Huskers did.

8 posted on 08/02/2002 5:03:28 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Actually the Nebraska Football summer remedial program is doing quite well, now that Domestic Abuse and probation offices have moved to a larger building with classroom space.
9 posted on 08/02/2002 10:41:29 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
THANKS for posting this!

The Top 25 College Games are MUCH better to watch than the felons.

10 posted on 08/02/2002 10:45:30 AM PDT by maestro
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To: Diddle E. Squat
lol!
11 posted on 08/02/2002 11:08:25 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Playoff opposed nearly 8-to-1 by decision makers



By Brad Edwards
Special to ESPN.com


The controversy surrounding the BCS Rankings after the last two seasons has left many college football fans crying for change.

Most would like to see a playoff in Division I-A after the BCS contract expires in 2006, but according to administrators at the major colleges, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

The Question
If there was a proposal for a playoff in Division I-A football that would guarantee your school to make at least as much money as it does under the current bowl structure, would you be in favor of it?

Yes (if money was not an object)

No

Depends upon the format (dates of games, number of teams, etc.)

No response



ESPN.com recently conducted an anonymous poll of university presidents, athletic directors and head football coaches from the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10, SEC and Notre Dame (63 total schools).

Out of 124 total responses, only 15 answered with a "Yes" vote, while there were 36 who said "No." Even more telling, however, were the ballots of athletic directors and presidents -- the actual decision makers in the event of a real playoff proposal. Between those two key groups, "No" outweighed "Yes" by almost an 8:1 margin. Not a single president or chancellor claimed to be unconditionally in favor of a playoff.

The Answer
Options .. Coaches .. ADs.. Presidents .. Total
Yes..................12.......3.........0...........15
No..................13......16.........7...........36
Depends..........17......15.........6...........38
No Response.....7......14........14...........35


"There will always be some discussion (about a playoff), but at the CEO and university president level, I don't hear any," said ACC commissioner and former BCS coordinator John Swofford last week at the ACC's annual media gathering. He added that missed class time is not the major issue hindering playoff discussion. "It's the sheer business of college football -- the money and the commercialism. I just don't think there's a willingness among presidents to take the next step in bringing more of that along."

The majority of athletic directors and coaches have a much different concern, however. Most of those who voted "No" and "Depends" expressed a strong desire for the bowl system to remain intact. Some were afraid that a playoff might diminish the role of the bowls if not eventually eliminate them altogether.

"Fans and players consider the bowls a valuable part of the college football experience," said Wisconsin director of athletics Pat Richter, who played for the Badgers in the 1963 Rose Bowl. "A playoff would make bowl games an intermediate step, and they would lose some of their luster because of it."

Florida State head coach Bobby Bowden has more concern that luster might be lost from the regular season. Non-conference games his Seminoles play each year versus rivals Miami and Florida could be rendered somewhat meaningless if automatic playoff entry was gained through conference championships.

"Our toughest games are usually in-state," he said. "If we lost both of those and still got into a playoff, I would feel like we backed in.

"I've followed college football ever since the late '30s, and it's always been decided by a vote. The best team over the course of the season wins, and I'm satisfied with that. I'm just old fashioned, I guess."

Many university presidents have voiced objection to lengthening the season through a playoff, although Bowden's team is one of 20 in Division I-A that would play 14 games this year if it reaches a bowl. Playoff proponents believe it is necessary to reduce the regular season by at least one game, and that process takes a major step next year when the August "preseason" classics become extinct.

But if administrators are not willing to significantly tinker with the bowls -- and, at this point, they are not -- it seems unlikely that an eight or 16-team playoff format could ever materialize. It might be possible, however, to incorporate a four-team design without altering the bowl structure; many coaches and athletic directors voiced interest in this option.

One coach, who asked not to be identified, believes that a ranking system could be used to determine the top four teams after the regular season, and two major bowl games could be pre-selected as national semifinals for those four teams. The winners would play for the title in another major bowl scheduled for later in January.

This is a very similar idea to the one held by Georgia athletic director Vince Dooley, who has long been a proponent of a post-bowl championship game. He believes it offers a greater stage to promote college football and could also improve the bowl lineup.

Dooley wants to see a return to the days when two or three New Year's Day bowls had an impact on the national title race.

"While we do currently have a national championship game, it degrades the value of the other bowl games," he said. "If the bowls are actually deciding who plays for the championship, then we benefit from having meaning to more than just one game."

Nebraska director of athletics Bill Byrne agrees with Dooley but believes an eight-team format is possible without compromising the tradition of the bowls. He would like to see a selection committee (similar to the one for the NCAA basketball tournaments) choose all eight teams. No automatic bids would be given, thus preventing entry for conference champions with several losses and allowing teams from non-major conferences a more realistic chance to make the field.

The playoff would involve five predetermined bowl games -- four of which would be sites of the quarterfinal round on New Year's Day. The fifth bowl site would host a semifinal doubleheader as well as the national championship game a week later. Therefore, more fans would have the ability to attend all of their team's games, and only two teams would miss legitimate class time at the beginning of the new semester.

"College football is facing a financial crisis," Byrne said. "There is a need to expand revenues, and this is one of the few remaining sources available. Financially, a playoff could drive numbers similar to the Super Bowl and generate revenues between three and four hundred million dollars. That's between two and three million for every school in Division I-A."

That kind of money would go a long way for most athletic departments. The question is whether administrators can find enough common ground to take that step.

"It (a playoff) is something I think will happen one of these days," Bowden said. "I just don't get the vibes from the people who count that it will happen anytime soon."


12 posted on 08/02/2002 12:02:07 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
In contrast, an ESPN poll of 40,000 fans showed that 84% favored a playoff.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsnation/story?page=NCAAPlayoff
13 posted on 08/02/2002 12:04:18 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Texaggie79
Get used to it. :o)


14 posted on 08/03/2002 8:27:23 AM PDT by Grit
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To: maestro
absolutley correct, the college boys make more mistakes and are more fun to watch than the pros
15 posted on 08/18/2002 8:13:49 AM PDT by cabral
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