Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.
In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:
Our discussion has been light:
It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog
However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB
Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr
Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog
Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB
Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed
To the very philosophical:
…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla
To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…
…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB
Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog
…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1
Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed
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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom
…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253
Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed
So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.
Baaaaad Hobbit! (the pictures were here this morning!)
Our Lab didn't eat the couch, just the corners of rugs.
This year's been the outside of the house for us. We got new vinyl siding and I'm glazing and painting the windows and storm windows. Actually got quite a bit of work done.
Inside we've done all the rooms except our bedroom and bath and the boys bathroom. Although Corin Jr. has started stripping the wallpaper in his room. The people that owned the house really liked Williamsburg blue. Unfortunately, their "taste" ended there. So the boys bathroom has blue tile and a floral print wallpaper. Fortunately it's strippable wallpaper, so it will come right off. Unfortunatley, the unstrippable wallpaper under it is even uglier...
We're going to do a nautical/ocean theme. And I may paint the walls with fish so it looks like you're under water.
But the Mrs. said I couldn't paint the walls around the toilet to look like a sunken treasure chest...
Probably not in Florida, but a lot of the older southern towns are built around town squares. Heck, Savannah is built around 17 of 'em...(or something like that)
We are too! Did you see the way they ran over Western Michigan today? Go Hokies!!!
What? You didn't mean Virginia Tech?....nevermind...
Okay, what did we end up getting?
I did manage to stop on the way home and buy the DVDs for Dad for tomorrow
So what DVD's did you get?
I'm shopping for the Extended Release LOTR. Who did you order yours from (that arrived ahead of time?) Was it Walmart? They've got the free LOTR T-shirt promotion again.
I've actually only watched them once. And our son doesn't have any, but I'm sure he'd like them.
("You can't say everybody's got a waterbuffalo when everyone does not have a waterbuffalo! We're going to get nasty letters saying 'Where's my waterbuffalo? Why don't I have a waterbuffalo?' And are you prepared to deal with that? I don't think so! So stop being so silly!")
There are some small towns in MS that have town squares; usually the courthouse sits on it. I know Lexington has one, and I'm sure Oxford has one.
Lots of New England towns have commons. The town meeting house, which was usually the Congregational Church, sat on it. The Cong. Church sits at one end of ours and has been there since, I think, the mid 1800s.
That's cool that you're doing a drawing course. I took one in the summer of 1976, just before we left MS for Sir SuziQ to do his graduate work at Florida State. We haven't lived there since, but my Mama, and our sisters and brothers, with a couple of exceptions, are still there.
Hey, don't forget Spongebob in your decorating plans! Maybe she'll let you have a pineapple? Sounds like he would fit right in to your new bathroom plan.
I got my new computer and have been playing with it most of the day. I've been playing the LOTR DVD and loading some pictures, etc. I configured a wireless network so I can have the laptop anywhere upstairs (main floor) while the modem is plugged in to the cable in the basement.
Now I have to go grocery shopping to pay for my laziness by order of the Domestic Authority, aka the wonderful one. Will check in later.
BTW in the interest of self disclosure, I posted a photo of my family (Me, the wonderful one, and my two jedis) in my profile on the yahoo site.... Keep it Secret. Keep it Safe.
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