Imagine if Florida's Gov. Ron DeSantis was running the U.S. when the Wall fell ...

Americanthinker ^

[DIRTYSECRET]

Within thirty years, communism is seeing the strangest of resurgences, particularly in the U.S. One governor is pushing back on that sea of ignorance. He's using basic education. It's the same principle as de-Nazification which followed in Europe shortly after the end of World War II. Florida is a magnet for productive and dynamic people and will only get bigger as a state as a result of its policies, which includes realism about history.

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[DIRTYSECRET]

Hypothetical I'll say as DeSantis was a kid back then. Bush '41 was in charge when the Ukraine nukes were disabled in a way the democrats would have botched. And then there's MFN Clinton gave to China. Still one can think how it would have turned out:

"DeSantis would make a good U.S. president, for that alone."

[dfwgator]

Right now, I would vote for DeSantis if he ran.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I believe DeSantis would be an excellent president. There are other great candidates, too. Tom Cotton, Marco Rubio, inter alia.

[DIRTYSECRET]

Think of him as a technocrat dealing with the nuts and bolts of issues the same way Dukakis tried to pass himself off as he did in ‘88. Too many big worlders in those 7 dwarfs and Bush ‘41 was more of a globalist.

None if this ‘kinder and gentler’ retreat.

[Scarlett156]

Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

[Carry_Okie]

Within thirty years, communism is seeing the strangest of resurgences, particularly in the U.S.

It was implanted in our educational system wholesale in 1933. It took generations to filter through our academic system and build a demographic base in teacher's unions (which were socialist from their inception via Rockefeller's General Education Board). Then there was building a sexual 'prime directive' into the public at large. That took decades too.

[Vision]

DeSantis for President.

[BobL]

“Right now, I would vote for DeSantis if he ran.”

It would be a close call for me as Vance has been my favorite. Rubio, of course, is excluded from consideration due to his position on Re-Population of the country (no-brainer for me regarding Rubio).

[V_TWIN]

Before the last presidential election I suggested several times Governor DeSantis would make a great president right on this forum.

Know what happened? I got attacked unmercilessly for even suggesting the unforgivable sin of anyone but DJT.

And I mean people were complete and proper jackasses about it.

One thing you can count on on FR....it certainly has it’s share of capricious jerks. Lol!

(Not you!)

[MinorityRepublican]

Before the last presidential election I suggested several times Governor DeSantis would make a great president right on this forum.

Probably true.

But he has to get people to vote for him first.

[Alberta's Child]

Back when RDS was engaged in his idiotic primary campaign against Trump in 2023-24, I ended up with about a half-dozen reasons why I didn’t like the guy as a presidential candidate. One or two of them would be a surmountable problem for me. The combination of them all is a fatal flaw for me.

[libertylover]

his position on Re-Population of the country

wha chu talkin bout?

[Theoria]

'And then there's MFN Clinton gave to China.'

Gave? If was DeSantis party, the GOP leading mfn for china, nafta, gatt, global trade, etc.

Clinton was merely a signer and Bush I signed a proclamation granting permanent normal trading relations (PNTR) status to the People's Republic of China and terminating application of Jackson-Vanik provisions to China. . The Dems were the less votes of that chaos.

The GOP and DEM cabal welcomed all of that, and people still vote for them.

[Theoria]

Bush II I mean.

[dfwgator]

Bush I was the best friend China ever had.

[ansel12]

Some things never change, Russia is conducting an invasion in Europe while the Communist North Korean Army is engaged in combat in Europe for the first time ever, and the leader of Russia is sending his troops to Communist Red China to be trained for the front, Korean War, Vietnam War, Europe War.

[BobL]

“wha chu talkin bout?”

Amnesty - he didn’t exactly hide his support for it in 2013 when he joined McCain and 2 other RINOs in trying to pass the broad Amnesty plan for Obama.

If he couldn’t understand what that leads to then, he’s in no position to run the country now.

[dfwgator]

I hope DeSantis learned some valuable lessons from it, as Reagan did from his run in 1976.

[DIRTYSECRET]

Ya got me there but it was Carter who threw Taiwan under the bus. Then there was Loral under BJ-gave them a 25 year jump on missile delivery.
**his position on Re-Population of the country
wha chu talkin bout?**
Little Marco was soft on immigration. Not now-than his boss.

**There are other great candidates, too. Tom Cotton, Marco Rubio, inter alia.**
Nope. It’s the executive experience as governors make better candidates. Senators throw rocks that work for the left. Remember RDS barely won in ‘18 and the state now is solid red.

**I ended up with about a half-dozen reasons why I didn’t like the guy as a presidential candidate. One or two of them would be a surmountable problem for me. The combination of them all is a fatal flaw for me.**
Running against Trump was stupid. Consider it a teachable moment as many successful politicians have experienced defeat. Think Reagan, Nixon,BJ.

[Bratch]

Bookmark and Reference Point – June 2026

June 27, 2026 | Sundance 

Events in 2027 and 2028 are likely to be very confusing.  As a consequence, CTH needs to establish datapoints in real time that can later be referenced and reviewed to make sense of things when CTH starts to put the data into a very difficult to accept storyline.

This process is similar to setting the 2012 election “splitter strategy” as a reference; that leads to the 2014 RNC winter meeting and rules changes; that led to the 2015 lineup of RNC candidates; that led to our ability to show how the ‘splitter strategy’ was being deployed for the 2016 GOP nomination.

The defeat of Jeb didn’t happen in New Hampshire 2016; his defeat was an outcome of assembling years of previous datapoints which proved the illicit roadmap and made the RNC scheme very clear from the outset.

Elon Musk purchased Twitter for $44 billion ¹($54.20/share) [April through October ’22]. 

He sold Tesla shares, leveraged more and assembled a $25 billion investment group to cover the remainder.   When the financing dust settled Musk controlled Twitter and investors were in for around $25 billion.

Musk later created the ancillary company xAI and when the deadline terms of the Twitter investment were due, he essentially repaid the $25 billion debt by transferring the investors into $25 billion worth of xAI holdings.

• [Key Point – the originating $25 billion investment was not repaid, just modified]

In 2026, Musk then did an IPO on SpaceX. This culminated in stock sales, valuations and generating $100 billion in cash on hand.  A few weeks later Musk then sold 7 tranches of SpaceX bonds worth $25 billion to generate liquidity.  He then used the $25 billion offering as the financial mechanism to repay the $25 billion remaining in investor debt.

Summary: Twitter’s $25 billion debt transferred to $25 billion xAI stock, then transferred to $25 billion in payout or bond holdings; the option is for the original Twitter investment group to take (cash out or hold SpaceX bond paying 5% annually).

• [Key point – the originating $25 billion to purchase Twitter is now inside the SpaceX bonds]

This was a smart financial gameplay over the past roughly 5 years.  This is how it developed and this is the reality in June of 2026. 

The originating $25 billion borrowed to purchase Twitter is now either:

(a) fully repaid, or

(b) sitting in long term SpaceX bonds (depending on investor choice).

Musk and his investment friends purchased Twitter for $52 per share.  Current valuation is $12 to $15.  Twitter investors, Musk’s friends and Musk himself, essentially lost 76% on the purchase (total loss -$33 billion).   A loss isn’t a loss until it is realized.  There was strong incentive to take each of the various repayment shifts. Twitter ⇒ xAI ⇒ SpaceX bonds.

[¹SIDENOTE: What’s the smartest way to get rid of a $33 billion loss without hurting the investors?  ANSWER: Transfer the loss to someone else.  How do you transfer a $33 billion loss?  You IPO a larger holding, putting the depreciated asset in the hands of retail.  SpaceX investors are now unwittingly carrying the loss.]

In the next few years people will argue with me about this. 

That’s why writing this now is important.  What is outlined above is factual.  Most of the money borrowed from investors to purchase Twitter is now resting inside SpaceX bonds.  People will deny this, because people have a short-term financial memory for things.

The biggest Twitter investment holdings belonged to Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, Larry Ellison, Marc Andreessen and a host of investment funds including the sovereign state fund of Qatar.

The files showed how the social media platform coordinated with various intelligence agencies within government on the approved information allowed to exist within the platform.

Three journalists were allowed to ask the Twitter legal counsel to run search terms and review the responses (if approved by the legal counsel).  That’s how the research worked.

The three journalists were Bari Weiss, Matt Taibbi and Michael Shellenberger.

Thanks to the Twitter Files and the public interest around them, Bari Weiss launched/expanded her online media network The Free Press.  Bari Weiss was a Ron DeSantis supporter.  Elon Musk was a Ron DeSantis supporter. Ron DeSantis 2024 campaign was launched on Twitter.

The Twitter File research group was shut down by Elon Musk with no immediate public statement as to why.

♦ Billionaire Larry Ellison (Oracle) retained his Twitter holdings as well as his relationship with Musk. 

When Twitter was under attack from Democrats (’22, ’23, ’24) Ellison was the financial backstop and stabilizing force.

Larry Ellison then purchased the TikTok platform with Marc Andreeson. Larry and David Ellison then purchased CBS-Paramount. 

David Ellison then installed Bari Weiss as CBS News Editor in Chief and bought her company The Free Press.

David Ellison, the technology heir son to Larry Ellison who controls Paramount, the owner of CBS, is poised to complete a $111 billion purchase of CNN’s parent company Warner Bros/Discovery as soon as July 2026.

Billionaire Oracle founder Larry Ellison now directly or indirectly controls and influences: Twitter, TikTok, CBS and CNN.

As noted by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in September of 2025, control and influence of TikTok and Twitter was the #1 and #2 most important strategic geopolitical interests of the government of Israel.  These were Prime Minister Netanyahu’s own words.

Billionaire Larry Ellison is a very strong supporter of the Netanyahu government.

PREDICTION:  If Marco Rubio stays out of the 2028 race [big ‘if’], then all of the Larry Ellison holdings will be used to promote or position Florida Governor Ron DeSantis over Vice-President JD Vance.

The Israel -vs- Qatar narrative is based on an anti-Vance operation.  Prepositioned politics.

[My ‘out there’ suspicion is political narrative control is the entire reason Twitter was purchased]