Posted on 07/25/2026 1:44:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
ISTANBUL—The conflict between the U.S. and Iran is escalating just as the two warring parties are running up against the limits of what they can achieve through military force.
The conflict widened this week after Iranian-allied militants in Yemen began striking ships transiting a key Red Sea chokepoint, helping drive oil prices above $100 a barrel for the first time in two months on Thursday.
The U.S., meanwhile, has escalated its bombing campaign in Iran in recent days, striking throughout the country during the most intense period of fighting since President Trump and Israel began bombing Iran in late February.
Trump and other administration leaders have threatened to ratchet up the military campaign against Iran, including by striking a suspected Iranian nuclear facility at Iran’s Pickaxe Mountain or by attacking Iran’s national infrastructure such as power plants in response to Iranian attacks on ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
“The price will continue to get higher every single night until they come to their senses,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio told reporters Thursday at a summit in Manila, citing Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi’s description of Tehran’s approach as “an eye for an eye.”
“The president’s policy is a head for an eye,” Rubio said. “I mean, honestly, that is what it is going to be.” He added that Trump would decide whether to escalate in the coming days.
The challenge facing Washington and Tehran is that both governments have shown a willingness to escalate, but neither is capable of achieving a decisive advantage over the other. The stalemate heightens the risk that the U.S. and Iran could be drawn into further months of war as both sides attempt to generate leverage, military analysts say.
“There is an escalatory dynamic now,” said Alan Eyre, a former...
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[from another thread] That’s all I claimed.
You defeatists can play your games.
There’s been 50 years from Vietnam for thinking and R&D by the smartest minds in the USA (and world).
“By one estimate, the bomb tonnage dropped on Gaza is more than 70,000 tonnes”
“Satellite imagery showed at least 69% of all buildings were damaged or destroyed, which surpasses the scale of destruction in Cologne and Dresden and approaches that of Hamburg during World War II.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing
“Between 1965 and 1975, the United States and its allies dropped more than 7.5 million tons of bombs on Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia”
https://storymaps.esri.com/archives/stories/2017/vietnam-bombing_orig/index.html
And there’s the brute force of about 200 Israeli H-bombs available.
I’d say Iran’s chances are Pretti bad.
You sure do love to hear yourself talk, don’t ya?
Once the nuclear genie is out of the bottle, it's OK for other countries to use them too, right?
Germans are European. Persians are not.
Says who? That's a stupid ass moral equivalence argument.
The "nuclear genie" is a figment of someones imagination. How many skyscrapers, full of burning people, did our United States take down in retaliation for 9/11?
Nations don't operate on tbe basis of what is "OK". That's why, if a nation, like the islamic republic, gets a nume, they'll use it for jihad.
Flavious - you’re wasting your breath on E. P... - he and others here have polluted FR with their TDS crap ... Jim Rob must be rolling over in his grave over what they have done to his creation.
It's a logic argument. Once nukes start flying, countries like India and Pakistan that have nukes and hate each other will decide the shackles have been removed.
What “shackles”? Tbat’s NOT a thing! There are no shackles, there is no “genie”. There is only the mercy and grace of God. The fear of retaliation is a false hope, especially when dealing with demoniac jihad fanatics that consider suicide attacks to be martyrdom.
No it can't. That's just copium. Everyone in the Muslim world knows that Iran will immediately attack Israel with any nuke they obtain, and the Pakistanis do not want any part of that. They aren't as fanatical as the Shia "Twelvers" in Iran.
I keep the idea in the back of my mind (that the Bible tells us what will happen) but I don't view the situation through that lens.
And Persia doesn't have to destroy Israel, they would just have to trigger a conflict in which Gog and Megog attempt it.
Ten four.
The issue of the strait of Hormuz will be settled between Iran and Oman.
Not Trump or his puppet master Netanyahu.
As far as Iran getting nuclear weapons. That is a done deal.
You sound like one of those TV evangeli$t$.
Where do I $end my money?
Talk of the US being short on missiles and such. How in the hell can this nation, with the military-industrial complex that Ike warned about, with all this, and we are SHORT ammo? Give me a freaking break. THAT IS EXACTLY what the Red Chinese and the Soviets are waiting to hear. Iran is really happy with that news.
Consider the example of Aum_Shinrikyo
You sound like you're about to have an orgasm over it.
You are the one that’s trying to get off.
You are the one who wants nuclear war.
Probably why we’re going to let Saudi Arabia get them. This Islamic theocracy with a long history of human rights abuses is allowed to have nukes, but that one isn’t.
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