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US Is Ready to Help End the ‘Senseless War’ in Ukraine but No Quick Deal Ahead, Rubio Says
Military.com ^ | Jul 23, 2026, 10:29 AM EDT | Michelle L. Price and Jim Gomez

Posted on 07/23/2026 2:33:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Rubio, who held talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in the Philippine capital, alluded to how U.S.-mediated talks have stalled.

MANILA, Philippines (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Thursday that the Trump administration is poised to help end the “senseless war” in Ukraine but acknowledged there is no quick path to a deal, saying diplomacy will require sustained effort and new ideas.

Rubio, who held talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in the Philippine capital, alluded to how U.S.-mediated talks have stalled. He called them “unsuccessful or at least unfruitful” in the past but insisted that President Donald Trump was committed to the work “if conditions and factors have changed to make that possible.”

“That’s been the challenge — an end that both sides can accept," Rubio told reporters. "We’ve tried and we’ll continue to try to see if we can, you know, find a middle ground that brings this about. And we’re prepared to play that role if the opportunity presents itself.”

Rubio met Lavrov and several other leaders, including China's foreign minister, on the sidelines of an annual gathering by foreign ministers of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Manila.

America's top diplomat said the U.S. is focused on Asia even as it steps up fighting with Iran, seeks a pathway to end Russia's war in Ukraine and pressures the Cuban government to make changes.

ASEAN talks focused on international conflicts

Three days of closed-door talks that started Tuesday have centered on the escalating fighting in the Middle East and tensions in the South China Sea, where a new clash flared Thursday.

“There’s always going to be a concern that America is so focused on one place that it can’t focus on...”

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1 posted on 07/23/2026 2:33:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“No quick deal ahead”—unlike the Iran conflict which “will be over in probably two weeks.”


2 posted on 07/23/2026 2:40:22 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: frank ballenger
Ukraine is neither an enemy or ally.

Iran is a different case...If they build a missile that can reach us along with a nuclear war head...game over.

Keep hitting them President Trump.

3 posted on 07/23/2026 2:44:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
For God's sake, keep Donald Trump as far away as possible from negotiations involving Ukraine.


4 posted on 07/23/2026 3:25:42 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

The U.S. has no business being involved in Ukraine and should never have supported them from the beginning, despite our corruptocrats instigating it. That war is the EU’s problem.


5 posted on 07/23/2026 3:32:19 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Fact check: It wasn’t ‘in jest.’ Here are 53 times Trump said he’d end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking office

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/25/politics/fact-check-trump-ukraine-war


6 posted on 07/23/2026 3:36:50 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Not to worry, Laura Looney is meeting with Zelensky to resolve this conflict.


7 posted on 07/23/2026 3:43:37 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: Sacajaweau; All

“Ukraine is neither an enemy or ally.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

10 pints indicating Ukraine is an ally :

1. Ukraine has been designated a Major Non-NATO Ally candidate partner and NATO Enhanced Opportunities Partner
o While not a Major Non-NATO Ally, Ukraine became a NATO Enhanced Opportunities Partner in 2020, reflecting exceptionally close military cooperation with the U.S. and other NATO members.
o The U.S. strongly supported this status.

2. Ukraine has participated in U.S.-led military operations
o Ukrainian troops served alongside U.S. forces in Iraq from 2003 to 2008.
o At its peak, Ukraine deployed over 1,600 troops, making it one of the largest non-NATO contributors.

3. Ukraine contributed to the war in Afghanistan
o Ukraine supported NATO’s mission by providing personnel, transport, and logistical assistance.
o Ukrainian forces worked under NATO command during the mission.

4. Ukraine has received extensive U.S. military training since 2014
o Following Russia’s annexation of Crimea, the U.S. launched training programs such as Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine at Yavoriv.
o Tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers have been trained by U.S. and allied instructors.

5. Ukraine signed the U.S.-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership
o Originally signed in 2008 and updated in 2021.
o The charter commits both countries to cooperation on defense, democracy, economic development, cybersecurity, and regional security.

6. Ukraine consistently purchases and integrates U.S. military equipment
o Ukraine operates American systems including Javelin anti-tank missiles, HIMARS rocket launchers, Patriot air defense systems, Abrams tanks, and F-16-related support equipment.
o This reflects long-term interoperability with U.S. forces.

7. Ukraine shares intelligence with the United States
o Since 2014, intelligence cooperation has expanded significantly.
o During Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022, intelligence sharing between the two countries became one of the closest U.S. intelligence partnerships outside formal alliances.

8. Ukraine aligns with U.S. foreign policy in international institutions
o Ukraine has frequently voted alongside the United States and Western democracies in the UN on issues involving international law, Russian aggression, nonproliferation, and human rights.
o Voting records are publicly available through the UN.

9. Ukraine has pursued NATO interoperability largely with U.S. support
o Ukraine has reformed its military doctrine, command structure, logistics, and communications to NATO standards.
o Much of this modernization has been funded or advised by the United States.

10. The United States has committed unprecedented long-term security assistance to Ukraine
• Since Russia’s 2022 invasion, the U.S. has provided tens of billions of dollars in military aid, intelligence, training, and economic assistance.
• The relationship includes long-term defense industrial cooperation, joint planning, and security commitments through bilateral agreements, reflecting a deep strategic partnership even without a formal alliance treaty.


8 posted on 07/23/2026 3:44:29 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE (Silence against evil isn't neutrality, it's complicity. Oppose the Iran-Russia-North Korea Alliance!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Some want to fight the Russians to the last Ukrainian. They don’t care how many would have to die clawing back Crimea or even if it goes nuclear.


9 posted on 07/23/2026 4:02:40 PM PDT by IDFbunny (No more brother wars.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Zelenskyy Removes and Replaces Leading Military Officials

July 22, 2026 | Sundance 

I have not written about the recent events in/around Ukraine because none of it makes sense and all of the information flows through the prism of ‘western’ intelligence propaganda.

According to Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy {SEE HERE}, he has removed and replaced the entire leadership apparatus of the Ukraine military.  This follows his removal of 35-year-old Mykhailo Fedorov from the defense ministry last week {CITATION} that led to massive protests against Zelenskyy and armed forces Chief Gen. Oleksandr Syrskiy, who was also eventually replaced.

As the story is told the young Defense Minister Mykailo Fedorov was very well regarded and was the person responsible for the successful technological advancements in military drone use.  35-year-old Fedorov was a close working partner with Palantir head Alex Karp who is assisting Ukraine in their drone development and deployment.

If the drone development and deployment was such a massive success, as pronounced in all western and Ukraine statements, then why would Zelenskyy remove such a critical and effective Defense Minister?  This makes no sense.

Additionally, if Chief General Oleksandr Syrskiy was such an effective combatant commander, and if Russia was indeed pushed back on their heels by both Syrskiy’s campaign and Fedorov’s drones, then why would Ukraine disrupt their entire military leadership apparatus while they are winning such well publicized victories.  Again, none of this makes sense.

These moves by President Zelenskyy are akin to President Trump firing Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman General Dan Caine, while saying they were doing an exceptional job on Operation Epic Fury in Iran.  See the problem?

None of these moves by Ukraine President Zelenskyy make any sense against the background story of them having incredible success against Russia.  You don’t replace the entire military leadership apparatus if things are going swimmingly.  However, it seems that no one in western media even fathoms the obvious conflicts in the narrative.

The young defense minister Fedorov, responsible for the well-publicized and celebrated victories in the use of drone warfare does not summarily get dispatched unless there is some underlying reason.  Something is not adding up.


ZELENSKYY – Today, the decisions on the changes in the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be formalized – the relevant decrees are in preparation. Together with Mykhailo Drapatyi and Yevhenii Khmara, we determined that Major General Ihor Skybiuk will become the new Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He is a highly experienced officer who defended Ukraine shoulder to shoulder with the new Commander-in-Chief. It is important that all components of our Armed Forces continue to function in complete coordination. We also determined together how Oleksandr Syrskyi and Andrii Hnatov will continue serving in the defense of our country. {SOURCE}


 


Wall Street Journal –  Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky fired the country’s armed-forces chief in a major reversal after initially siding with Gen. Oleksandr Syrskiy in a row with a young defense minister closely associated with Ukraine’s growing prowess in drone warfare.

The Ukrainian leader announced his abrupt shift Tuesday evening following days of street rallies after he removed Mykhailo Fedorov from the defense ministry last week. After several meetings with senior military commanders, he replaced Syrskiy with another experienced officer, Maj. Gen. Mykhailo Drapatiy, who previously signaled his willingness to take a more innovative approach to breaking the deadlock on the battlefield.

It could prove a pivotal moment in Ukraine’s four-year-long defense since Moscow’s full-scale invasion. {MORE}


Additionally, at the exact moment when 35-year-old Mykhailo Fedorov was fired from the Defense Ministry, U.S. influencer Laura Loomer, a woman of generally unstable disposition, set off to begin a propaganda campaign in Ukraine telling her audience it was time to defeat the Russian propaganda.

What followed from Loomer’s arrival in Ukraine (still unfolding) is transparently an intelligence community assist paid propaganda effort to reverse her position on Ukraine and begin supporting the Zelenskyy regime.

Less than 24 hours after Loomer arrived in Kiev to begin broadcasting her pro-Zelenskyy propaganda effort, it was announced that FBI Director Kash Patel will be traveling to Russia {Citation}.

FBI Director Kash Patel is planning to visit Russia later this year, likely in mid-October, according to a U.S. official and a person familiar with the situation.” … “Patel is scheduled to visit Russia on Oct. 14-15, first stopping in Moscow and then St. Petersburg.”

♦ Western media says Ukraine is achieving massive victories against Russia using drones.

♦ The leading military organizer of Ukraine drone development and use is then summarily fired, no reason given.

♦ The top general responsible for conducting the military operations delivering massive victories for Ukraine is then also fired – due to street protests against him.

Call me a simple-minded person, but these things don’t make sense if things are going swimmingly.


10 posted on 07/23/2026 4:03:25 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: jacknhoo
The U.S. has no business being involved in Ukraine and should never have supported them from the beginning

But the inescapable truth is that we did in fact support Ukraine from the beginning; indeed, we inveigled Ukraine into fighting this war, we told them we would support them, and we did, we passed legislation signed by the president funding arms for Ukraine, we provided intelligence to Ukraine, we enlisted our European allies to support Ukraine in its struggle against an unprovoked and illegal invasion.

Relying on these measures done by the United States through its constitutionally authorized officers, Ukraine did fight, did bleed, and did die for a cause, not only its own, but one that we made.

When a brazen attempt to extort Ukraine's mineral riches publicly failed on national television broadcast from the Oval Office, we abandoned Ukraine to its fate. We abandoned an ally, repudiated any responsibility for our actions, and cavalierly say, "the war is the EU's problem."

The very same people who endorse this kind of treachery express outrage because European allies, who have witnessed all this, decline to join us against Iran.

It appears that the fruits of this level of cynicism are more than the EU's problem.


11 posted on 07/23/2026 4:12:27 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Yes, we cut bait. Good.


12 posted on 07/23/2026 4:21:25 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Ukraine has no strategic value what so ever to the US, nothing. Its only purpose is to drain $$$ billions of taxpayers money into St Z’s pocket, as we witnessed during senile Joe’s rein....Burisma, Hunter scandal, etc, etc.


13 posted on 07/23/2026 4:30:05 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Sacajaweau
Ukraine is neither an enemy or ally.

LOL, convenient how you fail to mention the aggressor in that war-Russia, who IS our enemy.

14 posted on 07/23/2026 4:32:25 PM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: jacknhoo
The U.S. has no business being involved in Ukraine and should never have supported them from the beginning

Sure, lets let our enemy Russia run roughshod over Eastern Europe, who cares?


15 posted on 07/23/2026 4:37:36 PM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: McGruff
Not to worry, Laura Looney is meeting with Zelensky to resolve this conflict.

LOL, Rusky supporters now mad at Loomer. Wonder why?

Laura Loomer apologizes for downplaying Ukraine war after witnessing the horror: ‘I was wrong’

Pro-Trump activist Laura Loomer apologized for downplaying the horrors of the Ukraine war after visiting Kyiv this week, admitting that she was wrong for falling for Russian propaganda.

Loomer vowed to only share the truth of the war after experiencing an air raid during Russia’s latest assault on Ukraine and getting first-hand accounts of Moscow’s alleged war crimes.

“I feel like such an a–hole for minimizing the struggle of Ukrainians for the last 5 years,” Loomer wrote on X following the airstrikes.

“There are people in Ukraine who have to run to a bomb shelter every day, and some of us had the audacity to say Russia wasn’t wrong because we believed the lie that Ukraine is a country full of Nazi sympathizers,” Loomer added. “We have been so propagandized by Russia, and we don’t even realize it.”

https://nypost.com/2026/07/22/world-news/laura-loomer-apologizes-for-downplaying-ukraine-war-after-witnessing-the-horror/

16 posted on 07/23/2026 4:42:49 PM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: nathanbedford
Wer're responsible for this war.


17 posted on 07/23/2026 4:44:27 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: tlozo

Are you so slow that you don’t realize the Soviet Union came to an end in 1991, four years after you ridiculous post — short bus.


18 posted on 07/23/2026 4:51:49 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo
Are you so slow

So explain why Trump sent an additional 5000 US soldiers to Poland when "the Soviet Union came to an end in 1991"? Is Trump slow? Unlike you, he realizes Putin IS a threat to the West.

19 posted on 07/23/2026 4:59:25 PM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: tlozo

You poor thing I never said Russia isn’t a threat to anyone. Have someone who has reading comprehension read my comments to you.


20 posted on 07/23/2026 5:02:48 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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