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ANOTHER Miraculous July 4 "Coincidence"
Self | July 6, 2026 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 07/06/2026 9:14:29 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

I wish I had discovered this a few days ago to post this past July 4 but I only found out about it this morning and it is amazing.

Many/Most of us are already familiar with the miraculous coincidence of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, the second and third presidents, one of whom (Adams) was most instrumental in pushing for the Declaration of Independence and the other one (Jefferson) who wrote it both died on the same day, July 4, 1826, exactly 50 years after the Declaration of Independence. This was taken by many/most Americans as a positive sign for America by Divine Providence. Also it should be remembered that though Adams and Jefferson were bitter political enemies, they ended up regularly sending each other friendly letters for many years in an act of apparent reconciliation.

Okay, so many of us know about this but this morning I discovered another AMAZING fact. Exactly five years after the second and third presidents died on the fiftieth anniversary of the birth of America, the fourth president, James Monroe, also died on the July 4, 1831. Wow! Was this all just mere "coincidence?" Perhaps some mathematician can figure out the statistical odds of this happening.


TOPICS: History; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 4thofjuly; coincidence; fourthofjuly; july4; koinkidink; miracle
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So how many of you knew about James Monroe also passing away on July 4? I consider myself to be a good student of history but I didn't find out about this until today.
1 posted on 07/06/2026 9:14:29 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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I am probably wrong, but I think some people can will themselves to die. Mark Twain supposedly was born when Halleys comet appeared in the sky in 1835 and he said he hoped to die when it came back in 1910. Well he did.


2 posted on 07/06/2026 9:23:59 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: PJ-Comix

Just like birthdays, the odds are good you will have two die on the same day. In my high school home class of about 50 we had 3 on my birthday. All same year, and same hospital. And there was at least one more in my class as he was born in the same hospital. I will admit that 3 out of the first 7 to die on July 4 is high, but not improbable. Interesting idea. Now if I can get my stocks in proper order like that.


3 posted on 07/06/2026 9:32:45 AM PDT by mfish13 ( )
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I am probably wrong, but I think some people can will themselves to die. Mark Twain supposedly was born when Halleys comet appeared in the sky in 1835 and he said he hoped to die when it came back in 1910. Well he did.

I recently read a biography of Mark Twain and cigars and whiskey had a lot to do with his death. Plus his youngest daughter died in a most tragic manner just months before Twain's death.

4 posted on 07/06/2026 9:33:32 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Presenting Voter ID to CA Election Officials is Like Waving a Cross in Front of a Vampire)
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I did not. Thanks for that.


5 posted on 07/06/2026 9:35:08 AM PDT by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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I definitely would like to see the odds of the two presidents instrumental in the signing of the Declaration of Independence dying not just on the same day but on a July 4 that happened to be the 50th anniversary of that Declaration. (And then factor in another president dying on the same day five years later.)

Maybe that statistic is on the Web. I'll check.

6 posted on 07/06/2026 9:36:08 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Presenting Voter ID to CA Election Officials is Like Waving a Cross in Front of a Vampire)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I think you’re right. I read one account that said some of Jefferson’s last words were, “Is it the 4th yet?”


7 posted on 07/06/2026 9:36:18 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: PJ-Comix

I did not know this.

Great people, our Founders!


8 posted on 07/06/2026 9:38:12 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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I just checked for the statistical odds of Adams and Jefferson both dying on July 4, 1826 and according to an ARTICLE in Forbes, it is 0.0000657 or just seven chances in 100,000. And that did not factor in the significance of that date being the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

And now someone has to figure out the chances of the fifth president dying on July 4 exactly five years later. Get it? FIFTH president FIVE years later. And the odds get much much longer.

9 posted on 07/06/2026 9:46:20 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Presenting Voter ID to CA Election Officials is Like Waving a Cross in Front of a Vampire)
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And our current President was born on Flag Day!.............


10 posted on 07/06/2026 9:47:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
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some of Jefferson’s last words were, “Is it the 4th yet?”


And I believe Adam’s last words were ‘Thomas Jefferson survives’.


11 posted on 07/06/2026 9:47:49 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: PJ-Comix

Definitely high but not improbable. We talked about it in statistics class in college.


12 posted on 07/06/2026 9:57:58 AM PDT by mfish13 ( )
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I just saw an AI estimate of the odds when you factor in Monroe dying exactly 5 years later on July 4, 1831 and it is ONE in Five MILLION probability. Very very long odds.


13 posted on 07/06/2026 10:01:56 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Presenting Voter ID to CA Election Officials is Like Waving a Cross in Front of a Vampire)
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I didn’t know about Madison, either. Interesting.


14 posted on 07/06/2026 10:04:56 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ( "Trouble knocked at the door, but, hearing laughter, hurried away". - B. Franklin)
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15 posted on 07/06/2026 10:09:15 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: mfish13
Definitely high but not improbable. We talked about it in statistics class in college.

Um... The ONE in FIVE MILLION chance when you factor in Monroe most definitely makes it IMPROBABLE.

16 posted on 07/06/2026 10:10:06 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Presenting Voter ID to CA Election Officials is Like Waving a Cross in Front of a Vampire)
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Unrelated but oddly coincidental, both Aldous Huxley and CS Lewis had the bad judgement to die on November 22, 1963. Their deaths were overshadowed by some other newsworthy event.


17 posted on 07/06/2026 10:17:14 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (You choose; a world without dogs or a world without muslims.)
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There’s only one problem, James Monroe was the fifth President. James Madison was the fourth.


18 posted on 07/06/2026 10:22:13 AM PDT by EvilCapitalist (I wasn't expecting a kind of Spanish Inquisition.)
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Just do not trust AI. I do not remember it being that high in Stats class.

Here is one for you. The molecules of air in your room COULD go to one corner and let you die if that happened and you are on the other side. Could, but that is highly improbable. That is probably Billions to one, but possible. Best part of stats was the chapter on “How to Lie with Statistics.” Something politicians do best


19 posted on 07/06/2026 10:22:51 AM PDT by mfish13 ( )
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There’s only one problem, James Monroe was the fifth President. James Madison was the fourth.

That's what I wrote. James MONROE. Someone else mistakenly wrote Madison.

20 posted on 07/06/2026 10:30:24 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Presenting Voter ID to CA Election Officials is Like Waving a Cross in Front of a Vampire)
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