Tech Ping!! Help Please? Nighthawk X8 8500 died. Need to replace with similar router. This is a big one with 4 antenna. Works in big house with three floors. Please Help?

Chickensoup ^ | 06.25.26 | Chickensoup

[Chickensoup]

Tech Ping!! Help Please? Nighthawk X8 8500 died. Need to replace with similar router. This is a big one with 4 antenna. Works in big house with three floors. 75 foot length. This one has covered the whole house well. I need to find its newer younger brother.

Is there a router expert here?

Please Help?

[Chickensoup]

Tech Ping!! Help Please? Nighthawk X8 8500 died. Need to replace with similar router. This is a big one with 4 antenna. Works in big house with three floors. 75 foot length. This one has covered the whole house well. I need to find its newer younger brother.

Is there a router expert here?

Please Help?

[TexasGator]

Ebay. $19.50

[ProtectOurFreedom]

My friend Claude says:

For a large 3-story, 75-foot house, I would actually recommend moving away from a single router replacement and instead going with a mesh system—that is really the sweet spot for multi-story homes where a single unit struggles to reach top floors and far corners.

Here are your best current options:

Best overall value: TP-Link Deco BE63 or BE85 (WiFi 7)

The TP-Link Deco BE63 at around $300 for a 2-pack is the smartest buy for large homes in 2026, offering WiFi 7 tri-band with dedicated backhaul, no required subscriptions, and enough coverage for most 3,000–5,000 sq ft homes. The Deco BE63 features cutting-edge Wi-Fi 7 support for fast speeds and wide, dependable wireless signal at a reasonable price.

For even better performance: The Deco BE85 (~$400 for 2-pack) covers up to 5,800 sq ft and includes more features.

Best for simplicity: Amazon eero Pro 7 (WiFi 7)

The eero Pro 7 offers WiFi 7 speeds, tri-band coverage, and a setup process that takes under 10 minutes. At $499 for a 3-pack covering up to 6,000 square feet, it balances performance and simplicity. eero's app is particularly intuitive and guides you on unit placement.

Best if budget allows: Amazon eero Max 7 (WiFi 7)

The eero Max 7 is the best Wi-Fi 7 router tested, a tri-band mesh system with 2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz bands that delivers absolutely ballistic speeds. It also has Thread and Matter support for smart home.

Premium/largest coverage: Netgear Orbi 970 or Orbi 870 (WiFi 7)

The Orbi 970 covers 10,000 sq ft with quad-band WiFi 7 and handles 50+ devices. While steep at $1,499, it eliminates dead zones that cheaper systems cannot reach for large, multi-story homes with thick walls.

Key considerations for your friend:

• Start with a 2-pack, but given the 3-story layout, a 3-pack might be ideal for one main floor plus upper story coverage
• For standard wood-frame construction, allow 1 node per 1,500–2,000 sq ft; for brick/concrete, 1 node per 1,000–1,500 sq ft
• WiFi 7 prices have dropped significantly in 2026, making the upgrade sensible
• To take full advantage of a WiFi 7 router, you need devices that support WiFi 7. A growing number of newer smartphones and laptops support the standard, but if your devices are designed for WiFi 6, you probably will not see major performance boost from upgrading alone.

My recommendation: Start with the TP-Link Deco BE63 or eero Pro 7 (2-pack, 3-pack if budget allows). Both are well-reviewed for multi-story homes, have no subscriptions, and offer solid WiFi 7 performance without breaking the bank like the Orbi 970.

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I use Synology routers at two houses (one one-story, one two-story). Been very happy with them. Reliable, good coverage, no dead spots, fine for everyday use and video streaming.

[newfreep]

Amazon users rate it at 3.6...so not too dependable even at $58.

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Tri-Band-R8500-100NAS-Discontinued/dp/B015PD3HOC

[Skywise]

I’m seeing RS700s or the rax80

[E. Pluribus Unum]

As long as you are getting a new router I would recommend an ASUS router loaded with their Merlin firmware so you can protect your entire network behind a VPN.

And if you have coverage problems, get a couple of cheap wifi repeaters.

[Chickensoup]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0192911RA?ref=ive_vftp_hero_cx_pfo_vse-cards-ingress0

what about this guy?

[Bikkuri]

I doubt you need this one, but I have had it for about 3 or 4 years..
I live on the eleventh floor and still connect to it from outside, in front of the building.

Using only the router and no repeaters or extenders.

[Justa]

My sincerest condolences for your dearly departed loyal servant.

[Chickensoup]

I dont currently have coverage problems with current modem.

Have fiber at 1 gig

But it evidently cannot boot up fully after an outage today.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

I forgot security. All three use cloud-based threat intelligence, but with different approaches:

TP-Link Deco BE63/BE85:
Built-in HomeShield service includes basic security features at no cost. TP-Link gives you an isolated IoT network and device-isolation tools. Basic Deco functionality is free, but HomeShield adds paid security and parental-control tiers. It includes intrusion prevention and WireGuard VPN support, but detailed threat-blocking specifics are less documented than competitors. No subscription required for basic operation.

Amazon eero Pro 7:
All eero data lives in Amazon Web Services computing infrastructure, and there is a high frequency of check-ins between the eero cloud and your network about every 10 seconds, though very little information is exchanged—only diagnostic info that explains how the links between eeros are doing. eero Plus protects your family online with malware and virus protection powered by Malwarebytes, a VPN, and password manager. eero Plus is available for an additional $9.99/month. The subscription is optional but needed for advanced threat blocking.

Netgear Orbi 970/870:
NETGEAR Armor is an advanced cybersecurity solution powered by Bitdefender, providing real-time threat detection and malware protection for all connected devices. Real-time threat detection analyzes traffic anomalies, blocks known malware, and flags suspicious endpoints through cloud-assisted intelligence. Orbi routers come standard with a 30-day trial of Netgear Armor, which costs $99.99/year to continue.

Bottom line: All use cloud-based threat databases and update in real-time. TP-Link is cheapest (free basics), eero is middle ground ($10/month), and Netgear is premium security partner (Bitdefender, $100/year). For most users, the free TP-Link HomeShield or optional subscriptions are adequate.

[Chickensoup]

believe me I am crying.

[wally_bert]

I use the Orbi system and it works very well.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Claude says...

That is a significant downgrade from your failed X8 8500.

The X4S R7800 is WiFi 5 (AC, not AX), released around 2016-2017. It maxes out at 2600 Mbps total speed. For a large 3-story, 75-foot house that had good coverage with her X8 8500 (WiFi 6), this would likely not provide equivalent performance. Single router, older standard, and designed for smaller footprints.

Why this is problematic:

• WiFi 5 vs. her old WiFi 6 = noticeable step backward
• AC2600 is 8+ years old tech at this point
• Single router will not cover a 3-story, 75-foot house as well as her X8 did
• No mesh capability to extend coverage

Better options in the Nighthawk lineup (if she wants to stay Netgear):

• Nighthawk RS700 or RS700S (WiFi 7, single router)
• Orbi 770/870/970 mesh systems (WiFi 7, multiple units for multi-story homes)

Unless she is getting this R7800 used at a deeply discounted price as a temporary stopgap, it is not worth it. For what she needs (large multi-story home, formerly had good coverage), she would be disappointed going backwards to WiFi 5 technology from a decade ago.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Have you tried a hard reset of the router?

https://claude.ai/share/09a2a049-840d-4e28-9f7f-5314c1fabbfc

[Justa]

Meh, throw it in the freezer and see if it resurrects overnight.

[Chickensoup]

Thank you

[ProtectOurFreedom]

In #3, I wrote “I use Synology routers at two houses.”

I asked Claude about the Synology routers. Turns out they discontinued them two years ago! My hardware is aging, so I may be doing this research for my own needs in the future! Fingers crossed it all keeps working.

I have a 2014 Ford Expedition and the entertainment unit way predates all the modern phones and CarPlay. So getting my iPhone to play music on my car is becoming a problem.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If it doesn’t boot you can’t do what that said. Try holding the button in with the router turned off then turn it on, keeping the button pressed.

[yesthatjallen]

"Please Help?"

Buy a new one. You're welcome.