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1 posted on 05/18/2026 10:28:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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One is how somebody as smart as Christopher Nolan got entangled with woke nonsense in the first place.


“To get along, you go along.”


2 posted on 05/18/2026 10:29:59 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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Actual scholars of classical Greece, pharaonic Egypt, and archaeology were merciless toward Black Athena. Martin Bernal’s problem was that his specialty was Chinese history, and he had no background in Greece, Egypt, Africa, or any other relevant topic. The result was shoddy scholarship, wild leaps of logic, and wild-eyed speculation on the YouTube video level. Bernal did not need to wait for the internet to be exposed to cranky ideas. He carried around his own internet in his head.

So Black Athena was forgotten is short order. Until now.

The book has risen from the grave thanks to the argument concerning Christopher Nolan’s casting Lupita Nyong'o as Helen of Troy, the most beautiful woman of the ancient world. Forget the fact that Helen was Greek, that Homer describes her as fair-skinned (well, he was blind, so what did he know?) Black Athena says that the ancient Greeks were actually black. Kind of. Or could have been, which is same thing.
3 posted on 05/18/2026 10:30:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Black Helen of Detroit.


4 posted on 05/18/2026 10:31:26 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITT)
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oscar fever


5 posted on 05/18/2026 10:32:45 AM PDT by joshua c (collectivism has many names but the result is the same; the state is primary, the citizen is a slave)
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should’ve Big Mike as Achilles....


8 posted on 05/18/2026 10:36:12 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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I asked this question on a liberal board and didn’t get an answer: How is this not crude cultural appropriation? I mean, is it OK when “we” do it?


10 posted on 05/18/2026 10:38:09 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Christopher Nolan got entangled with woke nonsense in the first place.


Don’t the new qualifications for Oscar Best Picture require major roles being filled by minorities and the alphabet people? Didn’t Musk bring this up?


11 posted on 05/18/2026 10:38:35 AM PDT by hanamizu
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I figure there is a 1% chance that Nolan is smart enough to have these thoughts:

“I can kill two birds with one stone. If I make piece of crap movie that checks all the Oscar boxes, the Academy will finally give me an Oscar, for the worst movie I have ever made. That will show everyone how stupid the Academy is. It will serve them right. And in addition, this stupid woke stuff seems to be dying, which is great. But if I make a really crappy movie which is just dripping with Woke stuff, it will really put the final nail in that coffin. It’s worth it. And the movie will probably make money, so the studio won’t really be mad at me. I’ll be performing a service.”


16 posted on 05/18/2026 10:45:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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The studio is pulling out all the stops - I saw promos for 60 Minutes devoting a segment to Nolan and his new flick. That’s got to be worth many millions of free advertising. But I predict a disaster. Zendaya as Athena? Lupita Can’t-spell-her-surname as Helen?! GMAFB.


17 posted on 05/18/2026 10:49:16 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Ok In anyq war between the civilized man and the savage, support lthe civilized man.👨 so t tv)
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Oh ‘we was kings and sh*&’ again?

loser writing and loser BS..

wakonda fors ever......

what ev...

It’s life Jim, it’s just still living in mud huts...


18 posted on 05/18/2026 10:50:25 AM PDT by BFW
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Also read that Nolan required that Odysseus’ ship actually be sea-worthy and as period authentic as possible. Then he has other warriors clad like they’re from Star Wars. And the dialogue is all colloquial American English.


20 posted on 05/18/2026 10:51:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Ok In anyq war between the civilized man and the savage, support lthe civilized man.👨 so t tv)
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The Wakanda lady doesn’t even merit a single milihelen* of hotness.

* A milihelen is the unit of physical beauty necessary to launch a single ship. Helen of Troy merited a full helen, or 1,000 milihelens.


21 posted on 05/18/2026 11:09:01 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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Overthinking it. They are just f*cking with us for the LULz.

And they are rich enough to do it this way.

23 posted on 05/18/2026 11:12:50 AM PDT by Salman (The Democrats have seceded from the human race. It's time for Trump to go full Pinochet.)
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Momento was incomprehensible. so there’s that.


24 posted on 05/18/2026 11:18:38 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign! )
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This is an “own goal” of the worst kind. I’ve been looking forward to this movie for 2 years. Now? You couldn’t pay me to go see it.


29 posted on 05/18/2026 12:09:19 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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“put a chick in it and make her gay and lame”

Hollywood has followed this formula for the last few years and suffered massive box office flops. The black Helen will be blamed. However I wouldn’t go see because Matt Damon is playing Odysseus.


32 posted on 05/18/2026 12:52:29 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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Compare this to the 1959 movie, "Black Orpheus", where a French Director reimagines Greek Myth of Orpheus and Euridice with black actors set in the Favellas of Rio De Janiero during Carnival! It recieved a lot of criticism for reinforcing racial stereotypes, but it also won awards.

Black Orpheus

If he had the chance would Christopher Nolan do a remake with Brian Gosling and Sidney Sweeney? (Would the real star be the favellas and Christ on Sugarloaf??0

34 posted on 05/18/2026 2:58:36 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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