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Iran War: Insubordination Stands To Snatch Defeat From The Jaws Of Victory
American Thinker ^ | 9 May, 2026 | James Zumwal

Posted on 05/09/2026 2:33:15 PM PDT by MtnClimber

The U.S. media has tabled a question that warrants examining two 20th-century historical events.

The question asked is whether U.S. credibility in deterring Iran’s mullahs and getting them to toe the line has been weakened by critics such as comedian Jimmy Kimmel and politicians who mock or otherwise criticize President Donald Trump’s actions against Tehran.

The first historical event involves a battle of the Cold War, fought against the Soviet Union on February 22, 1980.

While this battle resulted in American blood being shed, it was not due to a military conflict but to an athletic one. It was fought on the ice as the U.S. and Soviet Union competed for the gold medal in hockey at the 1980 Winter Olympics game in Lake Placid, New York. The Soviets fielded a four-time gold medal winning team against a U.S. team composed of a mix of college players.

During the 20-year period of 1960–1980, the Soviets had not only run up a 12-0 record playing against U.S. hockey teams, but outscored them by a whopping 117-26 points. And, just three days prior to the beginning of the 1980 Winter Olympics, the Soviets badly defeated the U.S. in an exhibition hockey game by a score of 10-3.

It was clearly a contest in which David faced Goliath. Yet the U.S. would win 4-3 in what became known as the “Miracle on Ice” and what Sports Illustrated ranked in 1999 as the top sports moment of the 20th century.

Post-game analysis shared a factor that empowered a U.S. win against all odds. It noted the contest was fueled by intense national pride and support as fans created an electrifying atmosphere, boosting player morale. Fans effectively were “one” with the players, fostering a sense of belief that victory was indeed attainable.

The second historical

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: cheeringiran; deserttroll; enemedia; iran; leftism; lordhawhawmedia; media; msm; sabotage; tds; tdsmedia; undermining

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1 posted on 05/09/2026 2:33:15 PM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The leftist media is fighting for the other side. How should they be treated?


2 posted on 05/09/2026 2:33:26 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Disdain. Ridicule. Shunning.


3 posted on 05/09/2026 2:41:57 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? On hold! Enlisted USN 1967 proudly. 🚫💉! 🇮🇱🙏! Winning currently!)
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To: MtnClimber

Many military lives were lost during the cold war .just not reported or called accidents .


4 posted on 05/09/2026 2:53:30 PM PDT by heavy9 (heavy 9)
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To: MtnClimber

Depending on how things work out, the GCC countries could end up deciding that China is a better partner than the US, due to their higher level of influence in Iran and with Iran’s biggest ally, Russia. That would hasten the end of the petrodollar and advance Xi’s multi-polar world. I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if Xi is pulling Iran’s strings to achieve that outcome. It would be a huge geopolitical shift and a big win for China, Russia and Iran. I see Russia is already moving back into Tartus in Syria, maybe a sign of things to come.


5 posted on 05/09/2026 2:57:36 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: ETCM

Fortress America time.


6 posted on 05/09/2026 3:01:57 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: MtnClimber

Insubordination? Are we supposed to be “subordinate” to the whim of Trump? He doesn’t include Congress, declares war on his own, and if we don’t agree, we are “insubordinate” to the President?

GFY.... he and the government are our employees, not our Fuhrer.


7 posted on 05/09/2026 3:07:44 PM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: DesertRhino

Iran has been fighting a war against us for almost 47 years. If you side with then I don’t know what to think. The democRATs want us to lose too.


8 posted on 05/09/2026 3:16:58 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t say GFY to anyone in a civil debate.


9 posted on 05/09/2026 3:19:49 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Should have seen the derision from some people here when I merely suggested I was tired of war and would like peace.

This just isn’t very civil anymore. People are on edge, which, if FReeperville is any barometer means the displacement across the board is real.


10 posted on 05/09/2026 3:43:18 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Karliner

Hilarious of you, Karliner, to be whining about how Freepers just aren’t “very civil anymore”

from a couple of weeks ago


To: Karliner
As long as it takes wimp.
33 posted on 4/24/2026, 8:57:04 AM by central_v

To: central_va
Okay retard. Use derision and stupidity, be a fool
34 posted on 4/24/2026, 9:04:37 AM by Karliner

To: Karliner
I gave up trying to convince balless wimps how to act like men.
35 posted on 4/24/2026, 9:06:21 AM by central_va

To: central_va
asking questions? you can FOAD, little man
36 posted on 4/24/2026, 9:06:59 AM by Karliner


11 posted on 05/09/2026 3:57:10 PM PDT by Old West Conservative
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To: Old West Conservative
You're right but how did it start? I didn't throw the first insult.

But I'll fight and toss it right back at you.

We can't have peace can we? Not without the derision and insults? Did I attack anyone? But being attacked I gotta take it?

12 posted on 05/09/2026 4:19:34 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: ETCM
Depending on how things work out, the GCC countries could end up deciding that China is a better partner than the US, due to their higher level of influence in Iran and with Iran’s biggest ally, Russia.

If we did nothing and let Iran bring their nuclear ambitions to fruition, how would that lead to stability for the region and for us? How would WWII have ended up had Germany obtained a nuke before we did? Is there any way, outside of the end of the IRGC and the radical Islamic theocracy, that Iran would partner with anyone else but our enemies?

Why would the GCC countries want Iran to get nuclear weapons and for their current regime to stand? They would become pawns to Iran, China, and Russia.

Also, remember, it was our more 'thoughtful, rational, gentlemanly, and reasoned' Republicans, like HW Bush, who started the ball rolling for advancement of China's economic gains and power in the world.

13 posted on 05/09/2026 4:21:30 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Old West Conservative

“Wartime unity?”, I thought this wasn’t an actual war. We don’t have a congressional declaration of war, not even congressional approval with war powers act. It’s a skirmish, a persian excursion! If we all join together and wish real hard this will turn out awesome!


14 posted on 05/09/2026 4:23:27 PM PDT by ozarker
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To: neverevergiveup

I’m not lobbying for “do nothing”, I’m warning of the risks of failing.


15 posted on 05/09/2026 4:55:05 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: ETCM

I agree. Don’t start if you aren’t going to finish.


16 posted on 05/09/2026 5:02:00 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: MtnClimber

I do... to anyone who calls characterizes opposition to the Israeli war as “insubordinate”. The Government is supposed to be subordinate to us, not us to them. This clown has it ass backwards.


17 posted on 05/10/2026 10:57:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: MtnClimber

I do... to anyone who calls characterizes opposition to the Israeli war as “insubordinate”. The Government is supposed to be subordinate to us, not us to them. This clown has it ass backwards.


18 posted on 05/10/2026 10:58:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: MtnClimber

I do... to anyone who calls characterizes opposition to the Israeli war as “insubordinate”. The Government is supposed to be subordinate to us, not us to them. This clown has it ass backwards.


19 posted on 05/10/2026 10:59:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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20 posted on 05/10/2026 11:11:48 AM PDT by TexasGator (111I-..)
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