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Charlie Kirk murder: Docs claim Bullet used doesn't match alleged rifle
tmz ^ | March 30 | By TMZ Staff

Posted on 03/31/2026 9:10:21 AM PDT by RandFan

There's a new twist in the case surrounding the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk ... new legal documents claim the bullet used to commit the crime does not match the rifle tied to suspect Tyler Robinson, TMZ has learned.

According to the legal docs obtained by TMZ, Robinson's defense team argues there’s a discrepancy between the ballistic evidence and the weapon prosecutors say is connected to Robinson ... who's facing multiple charges -- including aggravated murder and felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury -- in Charlie's slaying.

(Excerpt) Read more at tmz.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: banglist; charliekirk; crime; inconclusive; kirk; misleadingheadline; randspam; tylerrobinson
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To: rockabyebaby

Yup.

This is really nothing but a “press release” - a filing - from the murderer’s defense team. That’s their job - try to create “reasonable doubt” - but people in the ‘court of public opinion’ need to think a little before jumping to conclusions, much less going full crazy candy.

Lots of variables come into play on groove/rifling analysis...

Nobody is asking me to testify as a ballistics expert, but I do know a thing or two about guns and ammo.

Plenty of “bullets” - to use silly fed-to-TMZ-by-the-defense report - are designed such that the jacket is solely used to provide the true shot rifling (leading to a actually hitting what you’re aiming at) but lose the ability to be analyzed/matched exactly.

It’s not even (necessarily) a way to “hide” traceability - it’s simple physics... Gory, but true - some rounds are designed to essentially “splatter” *because* it causes more damage.

That’s even beyond the fact that some rounds - non-softpoint, etc - can still be damaged by impact beyond analysis.

People need to take a breath and understand that “inconclusive” doesn’t mean “OMG! MUST BE A DIFFERENT GUN!!!” — it means nothing of the sort. It simply means that the bullet - either by design, by the laws of physics per what/how it impacted, or both - just lacks the end-state that lends itself to a nice and easy match to the gun that fired it.


41 posted on 03/31/2026 9:58:16 AM PDT by Capn Hayek (Capital is not responsible for Labor's lack of planning)
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To: mewzilla

Thanks for your excellent post.

While asking the Judge to block the prosecution from “running chemical or molecular analysis comparing the jacket alloy to ammunition recovered with the gun”, the Defense provided a compelling reason such testing is needed.

The Defense has an uneviable job and little to work with. I’m guessing that misleading PR and stupid lawyering will not help.


42 posted on 03/31/2026 10:05:19 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: mewzilla

“ Only if you believe what you read.

Trust but verify.”
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WAIT!! Are you saying the defense lawyers would attempt to MISLEAD to help their client and TMZ would want to SENSATIONALIZE something for their viewers?

SHOCKING, I tell you, shocking.


43 posted on 03/31/2026 10:06:21 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-M)
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To: Jane Long

It looked to me like the bullet hit the left side of the neck right where the carotid artery and jugular vein would be located. I think the blood gushing was from blood pressure from a damaged artery or vein. The shooter was on the roof to Charlie’s left so I don’t think this was an exit wound.


44 posted on 03/31/2026 10:08:53 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Skywise; nickcarraway; Glad2bnuts; Wuli

I have seen the theory that the one nabbed for it was only the decoy. Ive seen footage of what people claim are others in a window that were the real sniper.

Im not saying any of this is true, but it has come up.


45 posted on 03/31/2026 10:09:14 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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To: Skywise
Two - what does “not match” mean? Different caliber bullet? That doesn’t match the initial reports. Doesn’t match the barrel riflings? Those tests were designed around newer rifles. Older rifles might nit work as well with these tests as machining wasn’t refiners

There are countless thirty caliber projectiles that could be used in a .30-06 case. The most likely scenario is a bullet that had its copper jacket separate on impact with the victim, or otherwise fragment. Even some factory hunting loads over the years have had bullets that were known for that. Makes it tough to compare with a sample bullet fired through the recovered rifle. Another possibility: the bullet passed entirely through the victim and impacted something hard that badly deformed it.

The rifle had additional cartridges loaded in the magazine, IIRC. Do the bullet weights compare? Those are the details that the defense does not address, for obvious reasons.

46 posted on 03/31/2026 10:25:19 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

Yeah, I don’t buy the official narrative for a second. Not sure what the truth is but it’s likely far different than what the govt is telling


47 posted on 03/31/2026 10:42:45 AM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: RandFan

No, they just said it was inconclusive.


48 posted on 03/31/2026 10:48:41 AM PDT by struggle
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To: RandFan

Why would you post this crap?

They just weren’t able to match it to the rifle — it was too fragmented. They wouldn’t be able to match it to ANY rifle.

What is WRONG with you? Sheesh.


49 posted on 03/31/2026 10:52:20 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ( "Trouble knocked at the door, but, hearing laughter, hurried away". - B. Franklin)
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To: Chewbarkah
... The Defense has an unenviable job and little to work with....

But a whole endless heck of a lot of time to give it a try. This is ridiculous.

50 posted on 03/31/2026 11:03:31 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: RandFan

No it isn’t.

A soft tip disintegrated, that’s what they do. This wasn’t jacketed military ball ammo.

A nothingburger.


51 posted on 03/31/2026 11:07:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: mac_truck

lolol


52 posted on 03/31/2026 11:11:24 AM PDT by Katya (run of the mill sceptic)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Disruptors gotta disrupt!

The bullet disintegrated upon impact, or close to it, plain and simple.
Yes, people there are many bullets made to do exactly this. Hornady v-max, or eld-vt’s are not for hunting large game cause they have no deep impact, they essentially blow up on impact.
This story wreaks of just stirring the pot!!


53 posted on 03/31/2026 11:20:16 AM PDT by bantam
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To: Pontiac
Rather unusual for a bullet to fragment on impact unless it is designed to do that.

Mythbusters did a segment related to this topic. They were testing whether you can swim underwater to shield yourself from gunfire.

What they found was that pistol and shotgun ammunition was able to penetrate several feet, so the swimmer was not protected.

All supersonic rifle ammunition exploded on the surface and broke into tiny pieces.

Adam Savage did a follow-up in his podcast and revealed that subsequent to the above episode, he learned that high-speed ammunition is designed to "mechanically couple" with fleshy targets upon impact and immediately fragment.

But this idividual chose to engrave his ammunition which compromised the structural integrity of the bullet jacketing.

He engraved the shell casings, not the projectiles.

54 posted on 03/31/2026 11:42:06 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: Pontiac
But this idividual chose to engrave his ammunition which compromised the structural integrity of the bullet jacketing.

There is a difference between the cartridge and the bullet.   The cartridge was engraved, not the bullet.   Scratching a word on the brass cartridge would not compromise the structural integrity of the bullet jacketing.   The jacketing is just a thin layer of another metal that is made to adhere to the bullet core.   It has nothing to do with the cartridge that holds the propellant.

55 posted on 03/31/2026 11:48:07 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister
"There is a difference between the cartridge casing and the bullet. The cartridge casing was engraved, not the bullet. Scratching a word on the brass cartridge casing would not compromise the structural integrity of the bullet jacketing. "
56 posted on 03/31/2026 11:53:29 AM PDT by TexasGator (1.)
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To: TexasGator
"There is a difference between the cartridge casing and the bullet. The cartridge casing was engraved, not the bullet. Scratching a word on the brass cartridge casing would not compromise the structural integrity of the bullet jacketing. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartridge_(firearms)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casing

57 posted on 03/31/2026 12:30:45 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: RandFan
This is quite a development in the Charlie Kirk murder case.

All attorneys know that you can always hire an expert witness to say anything that you want said. Both the attorneys and the expert witnesses know the song and dance routine to avoid charges of suborning perjury.

58 posted on 03/31/2026 12:31:36 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.)
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To: TexasGator
Casing may refer to an enclosing shell, tube, or surrounding material. It may also refer to:

Cartridge (firearms), shell enclosing the explosive propellant in ammunition

59 posted on 03/31/2026 12:32:18 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: RandFan

Sixty-eight Freepers contributed to a previous thread on the same topic, and you made their input irrelevant by posting without searching first:

Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson, new court filing claims

03/30/2026 7:02:51 PM PDT · by algore · 68 replies
daily mail ^

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/4372954/posts


60 posted on 03/31/2026 12:41:08 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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